BUT. I'll move on past complaining about the people complaining and start building my double to triple arquiten list with Vader as an admiral and Jonus. And maybe an ISD 1 with an ECM.

Have you been looking at my scratch paper lists?

BUT. I'll move on past complaining about the people complaining and start building my double to triple arquiten list with Vader as an admiral and Jonus. And maybe an ISD 1 with an ECM.

I'm so confused as to how that just happened... I quoted my own post before I wrote it?!

s a fan of Star wars rebels I like both ships and I plan to get at least one of each ship, but a fleet of 4 - 6 Imperial Light Cruiser's with some squadron back up could be fun

I'm so confused as to how that just happened... I quoted my own post before I wrote it?!

Sounds like Time Travel. We don't do that in Star Wars go play Star Trek.

I know everyone focuses on regular match play and tournaments, but I'm really looking forward to the campaign, and I think both these ships make great additions. The Pelta has its fun fleet command stuff, which will be really interesting with all the campaign objectives. And Arquitens is a must for the Imperials in the campaign...they really need ships that don't need to brawl, because you can't be repairing all your ships.

BUT. I'll move on past complaining about the people complaining and start building my double to triple arquiten list with Vader as an admiral and Jonus. And maybe an ISD 1 with an ECM.

Have you been looking at my scratch paper lists?

BUT. I'll move on past complaining about the people complaining and start building my double to triple arquiten list with Vader as an admiral and Jonus. And maybe an ISD 1 with an ECM.

Have you been looking at my scratch paper lists?

Different emojis....Past you was a bit more accepting of me stealing your lists....

And now my dilemmas. Here I was expecting to not get new stuff for a little bit and now I'm scrambling to figure out what I want to run for Regionals in January AND balanced lists for Conflict. Oh no.....now I have to spend more messing around with lists....

Sigh, and not a few hours later a post complaining about the Imperials not having the fleet command upgrade and not getting it immediately.

....sorry said I was done complaining! Back to my Dual Turbo, Ord Expert Liberty with Sato.

Power creep won and the nebulon B lost. I really didn't need that third one after all.

Power creep won and the nebulon B lost. I really didn't need that third one after all.

You do realize many people believe Sato is the herald of a new age where Salvation is reborn with black dice?

Don't know about you, but running Yavaris and Salvation with Sato seems pretty good. Yavaris has stable dice, and Salvation is dealing 3 damage per hit/crit.

After banging on for months about Minister Tau...crying out in desperation on in the inside

Arquitens Nav chart is wierd but surely workable as a long range play style.

Arquitens wins handily for the ship and the upgrades. Changes Imps in a fundemental way.

Players win overall for the sheer awesomeness of the Waves.

Power creep won and the nebulon B lost. I really didn't need that third one after all.

You do realize many people believe Sato is the herald of a new age where Salvation is reborn with black dice?

Don't know about you, but running Yavaris and Salvation with Sato seems pretty good. Yavaris has stable dice, and Salvation is dealing 3 damage per hit/crit.

Disregarding titles, arquitens has better stats for similar costs. There may be some good combos that make up the difference.

Power creep won and the nebulon B lost. I really didn't need that third one after all.

You do realize many people believe Sato is the herald of a new age where Salvation is reborn with black dice?

Don't know about you, but running Yavaris and Salvation with Sato seems pretty good. Yavaris has stable dice, and Salvation is dealing 3 damage per hit/crit.

Disregarding titles, arquitens has better stats for similar costs. There may be some good combos that make up the difference.

Well it's a good thing the Arq is competing with the Neb to fit in a fleet eh?

Me.

I dont own a single Raider. I own one Gladiator and one Gozanti. I havent wasted my money.

I will soon own 4/5 Arquitens with zero guilt.

And maybe a single Pelta to power up my MC30s.

I feel like there's a lot more potential and fun out of the Pelta than the ARQ. Pelta has the largest fighter command possibility for a small ship, and it grants a whole new unique fleet upgrade category for the Rebellion. Sato, at least upgrades the firepower of all capital ships that have the attention of fighters, which is growing across the meta. The Pelta itself isn't a slouch, and it can climb out of the speed 2 hole with Engine techs.

The ARQ is steady, and apart from Tua handing a defensive upgrade to one ship and Jerjerrod enabling a few new lists, I don't feel as many new vistas of list building opening up as much as the Pelta. On the other hand, one can argue that the ARQ's profile is more needed in the Empire than the Pelta is needed for the Rebellion. If the Pelta is seasoning for a good list, the ARQ is bread and butter for a hole that needed patching in the Empire.

We'll have to see what fighters are being offered for both sides. The Rebels have access to generic snipe, but Morna Kee looks impressive, and I have high expectations for the TIE Defender and TIE Phantom.

Imperials are the clear winners here.

My ISD-I with 17 hull will beat your face in, courtesy of Minister Tua, Motti, and Reinforced Blast Doors.

I wouldn't call it "Clear"...

ISD-Is can drop as early as turn 2. This adds maybe a turn of survivability?

... Now, if it discarded face up or down cards... Then you're on to something.

But if a Brace Token over its life, prevents 3 or more damage, it was better to take ECMs

I wouldn't call it "Clear"...

ISD-Is can drop as early as turn 2. This adds maybe a turn of survivability?

... Now, if it discarded face up or down cards... Then you're on to something.

But if a Brace Token over its life, prevents 3 or more damage, it was better to take ECMs

Oh, no doubt. ECMs could be better than the Reinforced Doors in some situations. Given the low hull rebel's have already, I'd be inclined to go with the Doors to go on a ramming spree, but I digress.

I think Minister Tua is the best card to come out thus far, and don't see that changing. She's cheap and allows you do beef your ships up without doing anything other than equipping the cards.

I wouldn't call it "Clear"...

ISD-Is can drop as early as turn 2. This adds maybe a turn of survivability?

... Now, if it discarded face up or down cards... Then you're on to something.

But if a Brace Token over its life, prevents 3 or more damage, it was better to take ECMs

Never underestimate how much destruction a well-positioned ISD1 can do in 1 round of shooting.

No idea, still more excited to see what tie defenders are about.

No idea, still more excited to see what tie defenders are about.

Dat ace. Dey all about dat ace.

Power creep won and the nebulon B lost. I really didn't need that third one after all.

You do realize many people believe Sato is the herald of a new age where Salvation is reborn with black dice?

Don't know about you, but running Yavaris and Salvation with Sato seems pretty good. Yavaris has stable dice, and Salvation is dealing 3 damage per hit/crit.

Disregarding titles, arquitens has better stats for similar costs. There may be some good combos that make up the difference.

I thought so out the gate as well and then I broke it down and that isn't the case. They are actually pretty comparable.

https://community.fantasyflightgames.com/topic/236583-arquitens-preview/page-3#entry2534433

I don't know whether it says something positive or negative about either ship, but for me it's interesting that I'll probably buy two or three Arquitens, and I'm only going to buy one Pelta. I think multiple Arquitens will work nicely, flying on either flank or working as a pack, but I can't see a role for multiple Peltas, which I think will work better on their own anyway.

The ARQ is steady, and apart from Tua handing a defensive upgrade to one ship and Jerjerrod enabling a few new lists, I don't feel as many new vistas of list building opening up as much as the Pelta. On the other hand, one can argue that the ARQ's profile is more needed in the Empire than the Pelta is needed for the Rebellion. If the Pelta is seasoning for a good list, the ARQ is bread and butter for a hole that needed patching in the Empire.

We'll have to see what fighters are being offered for both sides. The Rebels have access to generic snipe, but Morna Kee looks impressive, and I have high expectations for the TIE Defender and TIE Phantom.

A single pelta might add more to a rebel fleet than a single Arq would to an empirial one. But if you were ever looking for broadside empirial fleets then the Arq is giving a complete new type of fleet composition to you. Not sure yet how it will compete with other established builds, but I already like the idea of building a fleet of zooming arquittens, or have a pair of them running around a stable ISD as a centerpiece.

Imagine - broadsides for empirials. Its like telling me you invented a new color! Not sure how to explain that new style to any experienced officer onboard.. "but we are a triangle Sir, we fire from the pointy end!" Lots of people to force-choke for good ol' Vader.

The only reason to buy more than 1 Pelta is the upgraded that have not been shown yet. Rapid Launchers and Flechette X might be worth having multiple of.