​In a recent interview, Team Covenant had a sit down with the game designers. They said that TIE Strikers do not lose their action if they bump using the tile card...as long as they don't bump with their dialed move. Not a huge revelation but it makes sense. Had it been the other way around the title would be very unattractive.

This also means that you can use your action to boost if you equip Engine Upgrade.

​In a recent interview, Team Covenant had a sit down with the game designers. They said that TIE Strikers do not lose their action if they bump using the tile card...as long as they don't bump with their dialed move. Not a huge revelation but it makes sense. Had it been the other way around the title would be very unattractive.

A case of bad wording, again.

They need to update the rules reference for cases like this, that'll be cleaner than adding yet another entry in an increasingly bloated FAQ. Theoretically, it could've occured ages ago, of course, but that was so niche it would never come up (Lando gives an action to a Daredevil, EI equipped PS 7 or higher ship).

This also means that you can use your action to boost if you equip Engine Upgrade.

Of course, AA's are not a boost.

Not official until FAQ'd.

Not official until FAQ'd.

You're not official until FAQ'd.

Not official until FAQ'd.

What was said in that video is consistent with the email ruling that was sent out by Frank. That's official enough that I wouldn't expect to play it any other way until something makes it into a FAQ one way or the other.

Can someone explain why they think you'd lose your action after doing the movement on your dial, if you bumped with the Aileron maneuver? The rules are quite clear on where the "perform action" step take place and wouldn't be affected by a bump from the aileron maneuver.

Same as if you'd bumped with a Decimator and then used Ysanne crew in the combat phase to get an evade token, right?

Not official until FAQ'd.

What was said in that video is consistent with the email ruling that was sent out by Frank.

And yet still not official until FAQ'd (or preferably rewritten Rules Reference).

You can't expect people to watch random interviews on YouTube to stay abreast of the latest rules changes and interpretations.

Or try and dig up the corresponding email.

Still a stupid thing that they can't post on the forum but can reply to individual questions.

You can't expect people to watch random interviews on YouTube to stay abreast of the latest rules changes and interpretations.

And yet a large % of the competitive X-Wing community does just that. Of course that video is not official, that's why we have a FAQ. But if a TO refuses to accept what's said in that video as clear RAI... Then that TO runs events I'd rather not take part of.

Can someone explain why they think you'd lose your action after doing the movement on your dial, if you bumped with the Aileron maneuver? The rules are quite clear on where the "perform action" step take place and wouldn't be affected by a bump from the aileron maneuver.

Rules Reference, Overlapping Ships.

When after executing a maneuver you have overlapped a ship, you skip your perform action step.

Whereas a free boost action is not a maneuver, the AA specifically is. Overlapping a ship after your AA maneuver should according to the current rules require you to skip your perform action step.

Can someone explain why they think you'd lose your action after doing the movement on your dial, if you bumped with the Aileron maneuver? The rules are quite clear on where the "perform action" step take place and wouldn't be affected by a bump from the aileron maneuver.

Same as if you'd bumped with a Decimator and then used Ysanne crew in the combat phase to get an evade token, right?

It's because the rules for performing a maneuver state that if you bump you lose your Perform Action step. The rules as written don't make any distinction between the maneuver that is normally performed as part of your activation and a maneuver that comes from anything else.

Ysanne doesn't take place in the Perform Action step, so skipping that step wouldn't stop Ysanne from being used.

Not official until FAQ'd.

You're not official until FAQ'd.

Can someone explain why they think you'd lose your action after doing the movement on your dial, if you bumped with the Aileron maneuver? The rules are quite clear on where the "perform action" step take place and wouldn't be affected by a bump from the aileron maneuver.

Rules Reference, Overlapping Ships. When after executing a maneuver you have overlapped a ship, you skip your perform action step. Whereas a free boost action is not a maneuver, the AA specifically is. Overlapping a ship after your AA maneuver should according to the current rules require you to skip your perform action step.

The Ailerons maneuver occurs before you reveal your dial.

You can't expect people to watch random interviews on YouTube to stay abreast of the latest rules changes and interpretations.

And yet a large % of the competitive X-Wing community does just that. Of course that video is not official, that's why we have a FAQ. But if a TO refuses to accept what's said in that video as clear RAI... Then that TO runs events I'd rather not take part of.

You would a TO pause a game so he can dig up a youtube video and a bunch of emails?

Especially when you know that those emails have been, later, overruled by the actual FAQ.

Because the rules, as they stand, are clear: you would lose your action step. That is the current status. If your championship would hang in the balance and with it, say, a paid trip to Worlds, would you allow your opponent to barrel roll his last ship out of arc and possibly grab the game? Based on an email and a video?

FFG should really have grown beyond these kinds of sloppy slip ups.

I'm sorry but that's absurd and anyone arguing that it works that way is wrong. The perform action step takesplace specifically after revealing your maneuver dial and performing the action set on it.

The Ailerons maneuver occurs before you reveal your dial.

And sometimes you don't reveal a dial, and yet have a perform action step.

Step 3 is not necessarily dependent on step 2 existing.

The rules are clear that you wouldn't lose your action I'm afraid. Just see the steps posted above that specify where the performance action step takes place, also this relevant rules question Frank Brooks responded to (emphasis mine):

Hello Kevin,

In response to your rules question:

Rules Question:

Hi!

The Rules Reference (p.3) states the following: "A ship must skip its 'Perform Action' step if it overlapped another ship while executing a maneuver."

Does this rule apply in the following scenario?

1. Lando executes his maneuver

2. Lando's ability gives a free action to Tycho

3. Tycho performs Daredevil, executes a 1 hard left maneuver and overlaps a ship.

4. Other ships activate.

5. Tycho activates, and performs the maneuver on his dial. This maneuver does NOT cause him to overlap

6. Tycho performs his action??

Does Tycho get to perform his action?

Thank you,

A ship only skips its “Perform Action” step when it overlaps another ship during the “Execute Maneuver” step of the Activation phase. So Tyco would not skip his “Perform Action” step in your example.

Thanks for playing,

Frank Brooks

Associate Creative Content Developer

Fantasy Flight Games

[email protected]

The rules are clear that you wouldn't lose your action I'm afraid. Just see the steps posted above that specify where the performance action step takes place, also this relevant rules question Frank Brooks responded to (emphasis mine):

The rules aren't.

The email is.

The email != the rules.

Unless it is in the FAQ or the rules, people can make it very hard on a TO during a high stakes game, or could reasonably be upset, with cause, if they are not aware and had expected and counted on a different result.

You would a TO pause a game so he can dig up a youtube video and a bunch of emails?

You clear this all up with the TO before the event starts. No one should ever expect a TO to stop a game to look up a email ruling, so in cases like this you discuss it before hand so you have time to present any evidence you may have. Of course you only bother to do that if you're actually flying something that is affected by the ruling.

But if I were going to go play somewhere, and I was going to use these ships, and no FAQ has been released yet. I'd make sure and discuss this ruling with the TO before hand, including having the video queued up to the part about AA before I even started talking to him.

Because while it's quite true that this video or email isn't official, they are clear indications of RAI, and assuming the TO has been informed of them ahead of time, they should take those into account.

I'm sorry but that's absurd and anyone arguing that it works that way is wrong. The perform action step takesplace specifically after revealing your maneuver dial and performing the action set on it.

The Ailerons maneuver occurs before you reveal your dial.

And sometimes you don't reveal a dial, and yet have a perform action step.

Step 3 is not necessarily dependent on step 2 existing.

Isnt there usually an update to the FAQ following a wave release? I expect this will be officially resolved soon, until then Frank's email stands as far as i'm concerned.

The rules are clear that you wouldn't lose your action I'm afraid. Just see the steps posted above that specify where the performance action step takes place, also this relevant rules question Frank Brooks responded to (emphasis mine):

It doesn't matter where the perform action step takes place. The rules for overlapping instruct you to skip your Perform Action for the round when an overlap occurs. There is nothing that makes an exception for maneuvers that come from a source other than a ship's standard maneuver.

RRG, pg 15:

'OVERLAPPING SHIPS

Isnt there usually an update to the FAQ following a wave release?

Sometimes, sometimes they wait until closer to major events like Regionals. They don't like to release new FAQ's in the middle of regionals normally. But with adding new ships in they should IMO.

One good thing about this, at least no one can really claim that the video is faked, which I've seen people do with emails.

Now to be clear, the current RAW are clear and contrary to what was said in the video and email. So we have another case of RAW != RAI, I just hope they update the RAW to reflect how they want this to work.

I'm sorry but that's absurd and anyone arguing that it works that way is wrong. The perform action step takesplace specifically after revealing your maneuver dial and performing the action set on it.

The Ailerons maneuver occurs before you reveal your dial.

And sometimes you don't reveal a dial, and yet have a perform action step.

Step 3 is not necessarily dependent on step 2 existing.

But you don't get an action after using Ailerons. It's an irrelevant argument here

Ailerons are a maneuver however, and the Rules Reference is very clear: if you overlap a ship after executing a maneuver, you skip your perform action step.

The rules do not take into account a ship executing a maneuver before revealing a dial.

An ioned ship does not reveal a dial. It goes 1 straight. It overlaps a ship. Does it get a perform action step?

He's not even making a specific ruling on a new card or action in that email. He's just reiterating what the rules say.

A ship only skips its “Perform Action” step when it overlaps another ship during the “Execute Maneuver” step of the Activation phase.

apparently this isnt good enough for some people.