Does anyone else think the Royal Guard TIE title should apply to any TIE not just Interceptor?

I admit I only want this so I can give Echo SPA+ACD.

The ability to stack modifications is potentially very powerful and should be treated with care.

I was gonna knee-jerk there and say no outright, but actually the only real problem cases are the Phantom and the Defender.

TIE Fighters rarely take a mod anyway, because cost.

TIE Bombers are a little overcosted right now and being able to take LRS and Chimps or one of those and Lightweight Frame would really help them. Ditto Punishers.

TIE/fos are mostly the same as TIE Fighters, they don't really want to get more expensive, and mostly don't want to take many mods. OL might want SD and Mk2 maybe?

TIE/sfs only really have one mod they want anyway once Frame comes out. Maybe Mk2 as well.

TIE Advanced rarely take mods other than Engine Upgrade. Engine/Mk2 on Vader would be nice but Vaders not S-Tier right now so fine.

TAPs, I guess Inq would be nice with ATs and Stealth or Mk2.

Strikers... Frame and Mk2 I guess. WHether that would be OP remains to be seen.

So yeah, the only real issues with this idea would be Phantoms and Defenders.

I was gonna knee-jerk there and say no outright, but actually the only real problem cases are the Phantom and the Defender.

TIE Fighters rarely take a mod anyway, because cost.

TIE Bombers are a little overcosted right now and being able to take LRS and Chimps or one of those and Lightweight Frame would really help them. Ditto Punishers.

TIE/fos are mostly the same as TIE Fighters, they don't really want to get more expensive, and mostly don't want to take many mods. OL might want SD and Mk2 maybe?

TIE/sfs only really have one mod they want anyway once Frame comes out. Maybe Mk2 as well.

TIE Advanced rarely take mods other than Engine Upgrade. Engine/Mk2 on Vader would be nice but Vaders not S-Tier right now so fine.

TAPs, I guess Inq would be nice with ATs and Stealth or Mk2.

Strikers... Frame and Mk2 I guess. WHether that would be OP remains to be seen.

So yeah, the only real issues with this idea would be Phantoms and Defenders.

You could give Vader Autothrusters, since Eu adds the boost to your action bar. That would be concerning!

I was gonna knee-jerk there and say no outright, but actually the only real problem cases are the Phantom and the Defender.

TIE Fighters rarely take a mod anyway, because cost.

TIE Bombers are a little overcosted right now and being able to take LRS and Chimps or one of those and Lightweight Frame would really help them. Ditto Punishers.

TIE/fos are mostly the same as TIE Fighters, they don't really want to get more expensive, and mostly don't want to take many mods. OL might want SD and Mk2 maybe?

TIE/sfs only really have one mod they want anyway once Frame comes out. Maybe Mk2 as well.

TIE Advanced rarely take mods other than Engine Upgrade. Engine/Mk2 on Vader would be nice but Vaders not S-Tier right now so fine.

TAPs, I guess Inq would be nice with ATs and Stealth or Mk2.

Strikers... Frame and Mk2 I guess. WHether that would be OP remains to be seen.

So yeah, the only real issues with this idea would be Phantoms and Defenders.

You could give Vader Autothrusters, since Eu adds the boost to your action bar. That would be concerning!

Oh yeah true.

Actually Engine/Autos is probably why this doesn't work. I forgot that little gem. Omega Leader with Engine/Autothrusters yes please.

Indeed. Double anything opens up a lot of nasty combinations. It's the same reason A-wing Test Pilot is unique to that ship - twin elite pilot talents on a lot of ships would be scary as hell (Imagine "Snap" Wexley with Push The Limit, Daredevil, Vectored Thrusters, Pattern Analyser, R2 Astromech - a.k.a. " Where the bloody hell did he go NOW!?!?!")

Plus - narratively speaking - it shouldn't be possible for a First Order ship to be Royal Guard. There was this little kerfuffle at Endor a while back....

X7 and royal guard tie should be available for xwings to even things up a little.

Does anyone else think the Royal Guard TIE title should apply to any TIE not just Interceptor?

I admit I only want this so I can give Echo SPA+ACD.

I'd give it to ships reliant on zero cost mods such as the Punisher and the X-wing so that they can use other mods but the other ships don't need that sort of power.

X7 and royal guard tie should be available for xwings to even things up a little.

You are more than welcome to reject your wicked ways and join the glorious Empire!

X7 and royal guard tie should be available for xwings to even things up a little.

You are more than welcome to reject your wicked ways and join the glorious Empire!

Indeed join the forces of law and order, help us bring peace to the galaxy instead of bombing orphanages in the name of aliens.

I miss the additional wings from Galaxies.

Does anyone else think the Royal Guard TIE title should apply to any TIE not just Interceptor?

I admit I only want this so I can give Echo SPA+ACD.

I'd give it to ships reliant on zero cost mods such as the Punisher and the X-wing so that they can use other mods but the other ships don't need that sort of power.

It would probably be better to just to errata some of those mods to allow for a second modification to be used (possibly with a point cap for that modifcation) like Smuggling Compartments does.

Snuggling compartment does it well. I'd be happy with something more like that (gives a small benefit and then allows another small benefit for cheap).

Snuggling compartment does it well. I'd be happy with something more like that (gives a small benefit and then allows another small benefit for cheap).

I'd go for a generic (maybe unique) title accessible to any ship that says 'you may equip up to two different modifications for no more than 2 points total between them'. IA/Chimps x-wings, Chimps/LRS or Frame bombers, IA/AT T70s, etc etc.

Best thing at this point would be if Lightened Frame simply allowed you to take a second modification. Honestly it could do that and throw in a point reduction and it would still be fine.

Best thing at this point would be if Lightened Frame simply allowed you to take a second modification. Honestly it could do that and throw in a point reduction and it would still be fine.

Indeed. I'm slightly disappointed that it's two points. It's good, and it's got its place, but it would have been better costed at 1 I think or given some sort of other bonus to make it worth taking on more ships.

Defensive mods are always overpriced, most of the time it's a SD you can't lose its only inactive against a small minority of ships.

Phantoms with both cloaking mods would be kinda nuts. It wouldnt be evade stacking since its an action but it would still be a free evade every turn on top of the dice stack.

The ability to stack modifications is potentially very powerful and should be treated with care.

I think it could be done but would need some care - and a complete overhaul to x-wing 2.0 :-)

One way to approach it for example would be to look at Mods in terms of classes.

Does it make sense, for example, that a YT1300 with an upgraded engine has no room to have some Anti-Pursuit Lasers bolted to the Hull ? or an Experimental Interface installed onto it's computer systems?

Obviously there's a strong argument from the perspective of gameplay as to why you shouldn't be able to do this, and gameplay trumps fluff.

But it is potentially one way you could make it work if you were careful

Divide mods into different classes and allow one of each, perhaps arbitrarily moving a mod that could fit in more than one category i order to avoid potentially broken combos.

So it might look something like this:

System Mods (Integrated Astro, Targeting Computer, Stealth, Experimental Interface etc) Hull Mods (Hull/Shield Upgrade, Anti-Pursuit Lasers, Smuggling Compartment etc) Engine Mods (Autothrusters, Engine Upgrade, Adv Slam, Vectored Thrusters), Weapon/Ordnance Mods ( Guidance Chips, Long Range Scanners, Munitions Failsafe)

Phantoms with both cloaking mods would be kinda nuts. It wouldnt be evade stacking since its an action but it would still be a free evade every turn on top of the dice stack.

I've been wishing for the phantom to be redesigned basically since it was spoiled. I liked the way the cloaking was represented in the game and mechanically how it worked but ACD pretty much blows it all up. If the ship was redesigned today I think they would both be titles and SPA would be the free one.

With Lightened Frame, if FFG wants Punishers not to collect dust, and Bombers to more than just casual fun (I love my Bombers, but am realistic), they need to be able to equip 2 mods, of cost 2 or less. This would let Bombers either go all out offensive with LRS and Chimps, or choose 1 and then Lightened Frame. That just might make them competitive.

Thematically it needs shields that is it.

With Lightened Frame, if FFG wants Punishers not to collect dust, and Bombers to more than just casual fun (I love my Bombers, but am realistic), they need to be able to equip 2 mods, of cost 2 or less. This would let Bombers either go all out offensive with LRS and Chimps, or choose 1 and then Lightened Frame. That just might make them competitive.

Honestly, spending two extra points to make the Punisher agi 2 wouldn't help it that much even if you could take Chimps as well. Fundamentally the punisher's issue is that it's way too expensive for what it does. It either needs to do a LOT more, or be a LOT cheaper. Going from 35 to 40 points for a loaded Punisher to 37 to 42 points for a loaded 2 AGI punisher doesn't change the fact that that's 40 points that's still pretty easy to kill and/or dodge.

With Lightened Frame, if FFG wants Punishers not to collect dust, and Bombers to more than just casual fun (I love my Bombers, but am realistic), they need to be able to equip 2 mods, of cost 2 or less. This would let Bombers either go all out offensive with LRS and Chimps, or choose 1 and then Lightened Frame. That just might make them competitive.

You don't think that Long Range Sensors plus Guidance Chips on the same ship might make them under priced?