22:37 So no one caught that Frank Brooks referred to "Dutchess" as "he"? Archer reference anyone?

So BoShek can do a Jedi Mind Trick: *waves hand* "You will fly a different direction." This makes even less sense than Boba Fett taking out piece of equipment on a different ship zooming past him through space. I cannot be grateful enough Paul Heaver did not win again. I will be sorely disappointed if Nand Torfs cannot achieve better.

good thing gameplay > fluff

sacrificing interesting gameplay mechanics for something that trivial would be a real tragedy

Well, if Heaver is going to keep making cards based on gameplay and not fluff, maybe he should stop taking all the best characters to make his cards with.

22:37 So no one caught that Frank Brooks referred to "Dutchess" as "he"? Archer reference anyone?

Danger Zone!

So BoShek can do a Jedi Mind Trick: *waves hand* "You will fly a different direction." This makes even less sense than Boba Fett taking out piece of equipment on a different ship zooming past him through space. I cannot be grateful enough Paul Heaver did not win again. I will be sorely disappointed if Nand Torfs cannot achieve better.

Probably make up his mind on the card 1 week before due date .

Messing with the dial does not seem like a good idea. Looking at it is one thing, but modifying the opponent dial is too much. Is like mind control. This is not a bumper-wing game

I can't keep up with all the crazy combos

To overexacurate - next thing we'll get is a Frenzy condition and a ruler with mm on it - you shoot two times the nearest ship.....

This is not a bumper-wing game

Actually, it wants to be. Bump must be the key of the game, as counter to the other basic thing: maneuvers.

But now, is just a run to the better Ace, who can do anything, no cares about nothing.

That's ruin the game imho, expecially the best mechanic of it.

Pushing in the direction of:

-killing aces

-think about maneuvers

-bumping

is great! That's why things likes Quandjumpers and BoShek are amazing

So BoShek can do a Jedi Mind Trick: *waves hand* "You will fly a different direction." This makes even less sense than Boba Fett taking out piece of equipment on a different ship zooming past him through space. I cannot be grateful enough Paul Heaver did not win again. I will be sorely disappointed if Nand Torfs cannot achieve better.

Probably make up his mind on the card 1 week before due date .

Nah they said in the video that they went through a few ideas first.

So BoShek can do a Jedi Mind Trick: *waves hand* "You will fly a different direction." This makes even less sense than Boba Fett taking out piece of equipment on a different ship zooming past him through space. I cannot be grateful enough Paul Heaver did not win again. I will be sorely disappointed if Nand Torfs cannot achieve better.

good thing gameplay > fluff

sacrificing interesting gameplay mechanics for something that trivial would be a real tragedy

Well, if Heaver is going to keep making cards based on gameplay and not fluff, maybe he should stop taking all the best characters to make his cards with.

I was hoping for some card that helps EPTless binder warmers though

Messing with the dial does not seem like a good idea. Looking at it is one thing, but modifying the opponent dial is too much. Is like mind control. This is not a bumper-wing game

I can't keep up with all the crazy combos

To overexacurate - next thing we'll get is a Frenzy condition and a ruler with mm on it - you shoot two times the nearest ship.....

Well don't worry, if you read the card it says the owner of the dial changes it. Not the boshek owner.

i.e.

1. Player A bumps with bo'shek crew

2. Looks at B's dial

3. Player B changes move to adjacent (either one).

Nobodys changing your dial but you

Good interview!

Makes me wish for a weekly/monthly dev blog.

Davy and the Brook Fleet Band.

Messing with the dial does not seem like a good idea. Looking at it is one thing, but modifying the opponent dial is too much. Is like mind control. This is not a bumper-wing game

I can't keep up with all the crazy combos

To overexacurate - next thing we'll get is a Frenzy condition and a ruler with mm on it - you shoot two times the nearest ship.....

Well don't worry, if you read the card it says the owner of the dial changes it. Not the boshek owner.

i.e.

1. Player A bumps with bo'shek crew

2. Looks at B's dial

3. Player B changes move to adjacent (either one).

Nobodys changing your dial but you

And it happens before the reveal, so stuff like AdvSensors, BB-8, Navigator and SoT still work.

Messing with the dial does not seem like a good idea. Looking at it is one thing, but modifying the opponent dial is too much. Is like mind control. This is not a bumper-wing game

I can't keep up with all the crazy combos

To overexacurate - next thing we'll get is a Frenzy condition and a ruler with mm on it - you shoot two times the nearest ship.....

Well don't worry, if you read the card it says the owner of the dial changes it. Not the boshek owner.

i.e.

1. Player A bumps with bo'shek crew

2. Looks at B's dial

3. Player B changes move to adjacent (either one).

Nobodys changing your dial but you

And it happens before the reveal, so stuff like AdvSensors, BB-8, Navigator and SoT still work.

BB-8 won't unfortunately as you have to reveal a green. Sabine would though.

Messing with the dial does not seem like a good idea. Looking at it is one thing, but modifying the opponent dial is too much. Is like mind control. This is not a bumper-wing game

I can't keep up with all the crazy combos

To overexacurate - next thing we'll get is a Frenzy condition and a ruler with mm on it - you shoot two times the nearest ship.....

Well don't worry, if you read the card it says the owner of the dial changes it. Not the boshek owner.

i.e.

1. Player A bumps with bo'shek crew

2. Looks at B's dial

3. Player B changes move to adjacent (either one).

Nobodys changing your dial but you

And it happens before the reveal, so stuff like AdvSensors, BB-8, Navigator and SoT still work.

BB-8 won't unfortunately as you have to reveal a green. Sabine would though.

BoShek is going to trigger before effects with a "before reveal" timing. I don't think that there is anything that happens before BoShek. If he looks at the dial, the owner rotates to one of the adjacent maneuvers, sets his dial back down and then starts his activation as normal. The only exception is that revealing a red maneuver is legal while stressed.

BoShek is going to trigger before effects with a "before reveal" timing. I don't think that there is anything that happens before BoShek. If he looks at the dial, the owner rotates to one of the adjacent maneuvers, sets his dial back down and then starts his activation as normal. The only exception is that revealing a red maneuver is legal while stressed.

Exactly, BoShek triggers the moment a ship activates.

So now you have

-Activate

-Immediately before reveal

-Reveal

-Execute maneuver

-Everything else

Apologies if this has been discussed before earlier.

As currently written, a player can now change their dial during activation without ever revealing it. Being forced to change it only to an adjacent maneuver is unenforceable, as the dial is not revealed until after the dial is changed.

Scenario:

• Paul's K-wing is equipped with BoShek
• K-wing maneuvers and bumps into Paul's Biggs
• Biggs' turn to activate comes up.
• Paul decides to use Boshek's ability, and looks at his Biggs dial.
• Paul can now change his dial to an adjacent maneuver.

But how does the other player know that Paul changed his maneuver to an adjacent maneuver, and not, for example, 2 maneuvers over? The dial is never revealed so there is no way for the other player to tell.

I expect this will be immediately FAQ'ed.

But how does the other player know that Paul changed his maneuver to an adjacent maneuver, and not, for example, 2 maneuvers over? The dial is never revealed so there is no way for the other player to tell.

I expect this will be immediately FAQ'ed.

You are right, as written there is no way.

The card will need an erratum out of the box, something along the lines of:

"Instead of "you may look at its chosen maneuver" this card should read "you may reveal its maneuver dial".

i think you got it mixed up a bit.

Ship with BoShek is touching Biggs, who is activating now.

Before Biggs reveals his dial, BoShek looks at it. BoShek player now know what that dial is and the Biggs player must change it one to the left or one to the right of the physical dial, including reds.

Biggs player reveals new dial.

BoShek's ship doesnt change any dials. Only the owning ship touching BoShek's ride does. Theres only ever 2 possible maneuvers you can rotate the dial to, and since the BoShek player DID look at the dial he knows it was changed or not.

So BoShek can do a Jedi Mind Trick: *waves hand* "You will fly a different direction." This makes even less sense than Boba Fett taking out piece of equipment on a different ship zooming past him through space. I cannot be grateful enough Paul Heaver did not win again. I will be sorely disappointed if Nand Torfs cannot achieve better.

good thing gameplay > fluff

sacrificing interesting gameplay mechanics for something that trivial would be a real tragedy

Well, if Heaver is going to keep making cards based on gameplay and not fluff, maybe he should stop taking all the best characters to make his cards with.

"All the best characters"?

Who in the name of allah is "Bo Shek". Sounds like a rejected phrase from Ali G.

i think you got it mixed up a bit.

Ship with BoShek is touching Biggs, who is activating now.

Before Biggs reveals his dial, BoShek looks at it. BoShek player now know what that dial is and the Biggs player must change it one to the left or one to the right of the physical dial, including reds.

Biggs player reveals new dial.

BoShek's ship doesnt change any dials. Only the owning ship touching BoShek's ride does. Theres only ever 2 possible maneuvers you can rotate the dial to, and since the BoShek player DID look at the dial he knows it was changed or not.

Yes, but what MJ is getting at is what if BoShek player and Biggs player are the same player.

BoShek works on any ship you are touching, including your own.

How would Soontir Player know BoShek Player changed Biggs' dial to one of the two required maneuvers? And not to, say, a maneuver all the way on the other side?

i think you got it mixed up a bit.

Ship with BoShek is touching Biggs, who is activating now.

Before Biggs reveals his dial, BoShek looks at it. BoShek player now know what that dial is and the Biggs player must change it one to the left or one to the right of the physical dial, including reds.

Biggs player reveals new dial.

BoShek's ship doesnt change any dials. Only the owning ship touching BoShek's ride does. Theres only ever 2 possible maneuvers you can rotate the dial to, and since the BoShek player DID look at the dial he knows it was changed or not.

Yes, but what MJ is getting at is what if BoShek player and Biggs player are the same player.

BoShek works on any ship you are touching, including your own.

How would Soontir Player know BoShek Player changed Biggs' dial to one of the two required maneuvers? And not to, say, a maneuver all the way on the other side?

Touche, didnt think of that.

I can see the possibility for abuse there, definitely going to have to be FAQd.

i think you got it mixed up a bit.

Ship with BoShek is touching Biggs, who is activating now.

Before Biggs reveals his dial, BoShek looks at it. BoShek player now know what that dial is and the Biggs player must change it one to the left or one to the right of the physical dial, including reds.

Biggs player reveals new dial.

BoShek's ship doesnt change any dials. Only the owning ship touching BoShek's ride does. Theres only ever 2 possible maneuvers you can rotate the dial to, and since the BoShek player DID look at the dial he knows it was changed or not.

Yes, but what MJ is getting at is what if BoShek player and Biggs player are the same player.

BoShek works on any ship you are touching, including your own.

How would Soontir Player know BoShek Player changed Biggs' dial to one of the two required maneuvers? And not to, say, a maneuver all the way on the other side?

Touche, didnt think of that.

Well, it's a pretty obvious physical difference, but does require close watching of your opponent, and certainly leaves opportunity for fudging the rules a bit...

Different dials have to be physically rotated different amounts. An A-wing has many more maneuvers than a K-wing, for example. So different maneuver dials would be rotated a different amount by BoShek. Trying to tell that the rotate was only one maneuver over, merely by looking at the angular rotation, would not neccesarily be trivial.

Trying to tell that the rotate was only one maneuver over, merely by looking at the angular rotation, would not neccesarily be trivial.

Maybe requires a FAQ but I'd insist on seeing the dial before it's changed if it were me. There's no reason for them not to show it at that point.