Anybody get the extra dice yet? I'd pre-ordered mine from TFAW.com and they said they didn't have them yet.

jh

+1

The extra dice would help speed things up for us.

The dice sets are still listed as "on the boat" on the Upcoming page, so it will probably be a couple more weeks before you see them (at least). I too have been planning on picking up a couple of these to have a separate set as GM. I only have 3 players, so I'm okay with letting them share a set, I just wanted to have a separate set that I can roll behind the screen.

However, on further analysis of the composition of the dice packs, I think the mix is wrong. There's only 1 Challenge die and 1 Misfortune die per pack. Buying two packs gives you 6 <B>, 4 ®, & 4 (G). Without looking at the creatures & NPC's entries and just going from memory, this seems like it will be adequate. 4 [W] and 2 [Y] will probably be okay for ACE budget and the occassional situational modifier as well. 2 <P> may be okay for most combat situations where most tests are normally just 1 <P> and the occassional extra <P>, but I might still have to borrow from the party pool for some opposed tests. But the real problem is only 2 . Between defense score of armor and active defenses, two isn't enough and that's not allowing for situational modifiers or special actions that have extra or card results that force , etc. There's just not enough . You can buy 4 packs, but Amazon still doesn't list them as available for pre-order and I have no idea if they will carry them at all. I'm not paying $48+tax at my FGLS for dice when for another $15 I can have a whole core set with a complete set of dice, cards, counters, etc. Not that I need the extra cards or other stuff, but from a strictly economics standpoint, 4 sets of dice is just adequate for , but overkill for <B>, ®, & (G).

A single set isn't going to work for even a starting character in all situations (several careers go 3 deep into stance, often need more than one <P>, etc.), so even if each player got their own dice pack and I used the core set dice, they'd still be borrowing from the GM's supply. And that's just starting characters. Once they start advancing and get to rank 2 and start needing multiple expertise dice, [W] for modifiers on top of [W] taken as advancements, etc. then even 2 packs per player may not be enough.

In short, I'm having a real hard time figuring out how to justify buying the dice packs now since I can't make the numbers work. No matter how I look at it, you end up with too few of some types of dice and multiple packs results in too many of others. The dice packs seem like they only work to expand the central shared supply as characters get to higher levels and start needing more dice to account for advances, but not as a means to give players and GMs their own supply.

What they should do is sell the dice pack that comes in the main game separately. It is already being produced as a set - so why not sell those dice?

If they kept the price at a dollar per die, the full dice set would cost $36 or the equivalent of 3 dice accessory packs. Perhaps most people would balk at paying $36 for a dice pack, so I have no problem with them splitting it up into smaller packs. The problem is you can't make a complete set from even 3 of the dice packs the way they've structured them.

Here in Germany we got shops selling blank plastic dice d6 and d10. I'm still searching for d8. I haven't found Purple d10. Those dice only cost about 0,75 Euro and you can write on them with an edding writer.

The Upcoming page still shows these as "on the boat" and "expected 2009", so that last bit's out of date. Not sure how close we are to seeing these in stores, but with all the pent up demand, I predict an immediate sell out and back to the "printers" for a second run. Now if FFG would just fix the mix before the second run, that'd make it easier to tolerate the additional wait time if you happen to miss out on the first run before they are all snatched up.

mac40k said:

I think that's reasonably accurate. My impression is that the dice packs are designed to be purchased by players in such number as needed as they PCs advance, whilst the corebox dice set stays with the GM.

I also think that they are factoring that many GMs will be physically handing challenge and misfortune dice when awarding negative penalities to their players, hence their smaller number.

This place sells blank dice

//www.thediceplace.com/acatalog/Blank_Dice.html

...though I confess my first thought was to go to Q-workshop and order some custom Warhammer dice:

http://q-workshop.com/help_more.php?topic=customdice〈=EN&sell_type=DETAL&currency=EUR

//H

After googling blank dice and seeing what was available (almost everyone is sold out of blank d8s), I dont think it would be to hard to take some stickers, size them for your current dnd dice and make the dice you need for Warhammer. Thats what you would be doing most often with the blank dice anyhow.

Harley Stroh said:

The problem with this is that small orders from Q-Workshop are expensive. Now if you could get a dozen people interested the rates would become much more competative.

Mark me down as interested by the way.

I know that in my base set I got an extra bag of stance dice with a note about quality.

Perhaps them having to include those dice in some (or all) base sets slowed down them being able to sell the dice packs. You can't sell what you don't have.

Just a thought

Both Koplow Games (look in their online catalog under blank dice) and Chessex make blank dice, so that really shouldn't be an issue.

I’m pleased to report that the Dice Accessory Packs have arrived.

ynnen said:

Awesome! - now when will they be available and then immediately out of stock in the FFG store? My local hobby store isn't great about ordering these things (if it isn't minis, they tend not to be very proactive) - even though I asked them to purchase a few sets for myself.