I think its important to note that Luke's unique Jedi status has always been a misdirection and never what makes him uniquely capable of defeating the Empire.

I always found the idea that Luke was actually the last force user left in the whole galaxy to be beyond ridiculous. If Obi-Wan and Yoda could hide for that long, there's no reasons others couldn't do it as well. The only reason Obi-Wan was killed was because he confronted Vader on the DS.

Yoda was never found again and died of old age. So there's simply no way Luke could be the last force user out there. He could be the last classically trained and recognized as a Jedi by a Jedi Master. Because Kanan, Ashoka, Ezra, ect... They aren't Jedi. Neither is Vader or the Emperor, or Maul...

So there's no reason why any of the Rebel's cast needs to die, there will be no harm to continuity if they exist off camera. I also the idea that they need to die because they weren't seen in the other movies is again amazingly short sighted and looking for a fix for a non-existent problem. It's not like the movies represent 100% of everything that the Rebel Alliance does.

We also see a few of the Phoenix cell's CR-90s and the Hammerheads (albeit, slightly modified).

I was so happy to see the Ghost just whizzing around, I wonder if you look a bit closer you can see the Phantom II. I'm really looking forward to watching this space battle frame by frame to catch all of the easter egg goodies.

I think from the trailer footage it looks like the Phantom II isn't there, so maybe someone was off on a mission or it went the way of the first phantom at some point.

Apparently from Vanessa Marshall's Twitter, we get confirmation that she did voice Hera for one line:

Gold Leader: "Hit that opening!"

Hera Syndulla: "We see it Gold Leader."

Ok, that made me squeee just a little bit.

https://twitter.com/vanmarshall/status/810633781220671488

We may have jumped to conclusions too quickly:

https://twitter.com/vanmarshall/status/810962128639172608

unless they are just messing with us.

Now she's just playing with our emotions...

Edit:

https://twitter.com/vanmarshall/status/810962518885601280

Ok, so Hera didn't say anything, she was voicing "a rebel pilot", but she states that the Ghost was there at the battle and Hera was silent.

Apparently from Vanessa Marshall's Twitter, we get confirmation that she did voice Hera for one line:

Gold Leader: "Hit that opening!"

Hera Syndulla: "We see it Gold Leader."

Hrm - I don't see a specific comment to THAT effect on her Twitter feed, but...seems legit. She's definitely in the credits for the movie, anyway...

https://twitter.com/ForceCult/status/810583475178897408

EDIT: annnnd...well, that's a "no". Kinda no. Not really no, but...'no'. (wink, wink)

https://twitter.com/vanmarshall/status/810962128639172608

I voiced a REBEL PILOT. :0) Not Hera. It was a different voice so you may not hear it! xo

So her official character was 'REBEL PILOT'. Riiiiiiight .

No, she really voiced a Rebel pilot, the Asian lady in a Y-wing, that's why she's talking to the Gold Leader about the opening right before the Ys launch ion torpedoes.

No, she really voiced a Rebel pilot, the Asian lady in a Y-wing, that's why she's talking to the Gold Leader about the opening right before the Ys launch ion torpedoes.

I'm not disagreeing that she voiced a 'Rebel Pilot' - but that since the character is never SEEN (it's just radio chatter), that such voice-over definitely determines whether the pilot in question is/isn't Hera. Like all of the other 'Rebels' cameos - it's apparently being left ambiguous. Maybe it is Hera, maybe it isn't...

Disney probably wan't a backdoor if a story arc suddenly calls for Heras death before the Rogue One timeline. Until then, off course its Hera.

Disney probably wan't a backdoor if a story arc suddenly calls for Heras death before the Rogue One timeline. Until then, off course its Hera.

This is what I'm thinking, that she doesn't want to get caught writing the producer into a corner with her Twitter musings with fans.

That, or there is some legal wrangling about her voicing the character outside of her normal Rebels performances, to the point that they do **** near everything possible except explicitly say Hera was there:

1. A C1 series droid is seen at Yavin base.

2. A "General Syndulla" is paged at the base.

3. A battle ready VCX-100 is present at the battle; later confirmed to the Ghost by the actress.

4. The voice actress for Hera is overheard on the radio during the battle.

No, she really voiced a Rebel pilot, the Asian lady in a Y-wing, that's why she's talking to the Gold Leader about the opening right before the Ys launch ion torpedoes.

I'm not disagreeing that she voiced a 'Rebel Pilot' - but that since the character is never SEEN (it's just radio chatter), that such voice-over definitely determines whether the pilot in question is/isn't Hera. Like all of the other 'Rebels' cameos - it's apparently being left ambiguous. Maybe it is Hera, maybe it isn't...

But we do see her:

And the dialogue is very unambiguous.

camera follows the Y-wings

Gold Leader: Hit that opening.

Rebel Pilot: We see it Gold Leader.

closeup on the pilot

Rebel Pilot: Ion Torpedoes away!

No, she really voiced a Rebel pilot, the Asian lady in a Y-wing, that's why she's talking to the Gold Leader about the opening right before the Ys launch ion torpedoes.

I'm not disagreeing that she voiced a 'Rebel Pilot' - but that since the character is never SEEN (it's just radio chatter), that such voice-over definitely determines whether the pilot in question is/isn't Hera. Like all of the other 'Rebels' cameos - it's apparently being left ambiguous. Maybe it is Hera, maybe it isn't...

But we do see her:

And the dialogue is very unambiguous.

camera follows the Y-wings

Gold Leader: Hit that opening.

Rebel Pilot: We see it Gold Leader.

closeup on the pilot

Rebel Pilot: Ion Torpedoes away!

Different people, though. Vanessa Marshall got a voice credit, only. She wasn't IN the movie, just did a voiceover for comm traffic in it. IE., "We see it Gold Leader" and "Ion Torpedoes away!" were said by different women.

I don't think so, the first line has the radio chatter noise because the camera is outside the Y-wing, in the next shot it's inside so the sound is clear. Although it's hard to tell with the available audio quality.

But if they are different women, the question is why on Earth would they insert a random Ghost chatter inside an otherwise coherent Y-wing sequence?

it goes like this:

Admiral says that they have to push the attack

The camera shows Y-wings and then follows them

Gold Leader orders to hit the opening

Hera all of the sudden acknowledges that order, while camera still follows the leading Y-wing pretty close and the Ghost is not even in the frame

Close up on the (I assume) leading Y-wing pilot, "Ion torpedoes away"

back to the same perspective as before, switch to a camera behind Y-wings as the ion torpedoes are launched

A better question would be, if its the same character saying both lines, why use two different women's voices when the visible actress is going to be speaking her line anyways?

Scenes like this are often dubbed over in post production.

Scenes like this are often dubbed over in post production.

But that one was not. Had they dubbed Marshall's voice over the actress's, you would have had a point.

As it was done, it doesn't make sense for those to be the same person.

What makes you 100% sure?

Even if it's true it means that either the audio is completely disconnected from the video or Vanessa voices another Y-wing pilot. Which would be pointlessly confusing, but hey.

What makes you 100% sure?

Because they are clearly two different people's voices? I'm not really sure what you mean by this question.

Even if it's true it means that either the audio is completely disconnected from the video or Vanessa voices another Y-wing pilot. Which would be pointlessly confusing, but hey.

Or, Marshall was voicing an Easter Egg as an "un-named Rebel Pilot."

Here's the thing:

Some voice actor recorded the "General Syndulla..." line and the sound department took that specific line, edited and put it in.

Someone CG'd used a C1-series droid prop into the background of a scene.

Someone CG'd a VCX-100 into the Battle of Scarif, including a shot that tracks the ship in the center of the screen as it pulls a 3-turn right which the director kept, if not (more likely) outright requested.

Someone went down the hall/to another studio and got Vanessa Marshall and asked "Hey, can you come record this one line for us real fast like?" which she very likely got paid for, because, ya know, that's her job. Maybe she did it for kicks, I dunno, ultimately irrelevant, people took time out of their workday.

All of this went past editors and the director, and was ultimately accepted.

Absolutely none of this work is relevant to the actual plot of the movie .*

Some very real time went into working in nods to the crew from Rebels into the movie. IMO, Marshall voicing the line at the battle was just another part of the Rebels Easter Eggs they were tucking in.

*any actress could have voiced the "We see it..." line

Actually, the c1 droid was likely the physical prop Chopper used mostly on Rebels Recon, the Rebels behind the scenes web show, as he was shipped to England, roughly the same time as the Rogue One reshoots and was not seen at Celebration. Plus the last Rebels recon before the winter break alludes to this as well.

Actually, the c1 droid was likely the physical prop Chopper used mostly on Rebels Recon, the Rebels behind the scenes web show, as he was shipped to England, roughly the same time as the Rogue One reshoots and was not seen at Celebration. Plus the last Rebels recon before the winter break alludes to this as well.

Ah, sweet. Didn't know that.

What makes you 100% sure?

Because they are clearly two different people's voices? I'm not really sure what you mean by this question.

Even if it's true it means that either the audio is completely disconnected from the video or Vanessa voices another Y-wing pilot. Which would be pointlessly confusing, but hey.

Or, Marshall was voicing an Easter Egg as an "un-named Rebel Pilot."

Here's the thing:

Some voice actor recorded the "General Syndulla..." line and the sound department took that specific line, edited and put it in.

Someone CG'd used a C1-series droid prop into the background of a scene.

Someone CG'd a VCX-100 into the Battle of Scarif, including a shot that tracks the ship in the center of the screen as it pulls a 3-turn right which the director kept, if not (more likely) outright requested.

Someone went down the hall/to another studio and got Vanessa Marshall and asked "Hey, can you come record this one line for us real fast like?" which she very likely got paid for, because, ya know, that's her job. Maybe she did it for kicks, I dunno, ultimately irrelevant, people took time out of their workday.

All of this went past editors and the director, and was ultimately accepted.

Absolutely none of this work is relevant to the actual plot of the movie .*

Some very real time went into working in nods to the crew from Rebels into the movie. IMO, Marshall voicing the line at the battle was just another part of the Rebels Easter Eggs they were tucking in.

*any actress could have voiced the "We see it..." line

Yes, Marshal voicing the Asian Y-wng pilot is a Rebels easter egg just like Steve Blum and Sam Witwer voicing stromtroopers, which doesn't mean Zeb and Maul joined the Empire and ended up on Scarif.

If they intended for her to be Hera, they could have inserted her voice anywhere else , but not when the camera is centered on a Y-wing for some time, there is no Ghost in the frame and the line goes right between lines of two Gold Squadron pilots.

And of course the voice actress herself confirmed that it's not Hera, but I guess she lies to cover the great secret that... I guess Hera is alive at this point?

" Hera didn't say anything. Thought you were mentioning my REBEL PILOT VO. Sorry for confusion! Ghost was there tho! xo"

While I like your point about Steve Blum and Sam Witwer voiceing stormtroopers, the voice actress for Hera lending her talents in at the battle that she confirms the Ghost was at is on a bit different level.

As far as the other points in your post, I've addressed them already in previous posts above. We're running in circles at this time. It's cool though, I just don't we're going to reach a consensus.

Or it could be that they needed a single line of ADR doing and they had a professional voice actress on the books?

Or it could be that they needed a single line of ADR doing and they had a professional voice actress on the books?

Which would make sense if you ignored every other point that I made in post #193 above.

Or it could be that they needed a single line of ADR doing and they had a professional voice actress on the books?

Which would make sense if you ignored every other point that I made in post #193 above.

But at the same time, you're creating these connections in your head.

We KNOW Hera was at the battle, we saw the Ghost, we saw Chopper, we heard the briefing call. But that was it. That was the easter egg. Nothing drawn attention to, but enough that the Rebels fans would spot it.

Now, at the same time, they needed this ADR line, and Marshal was available (Voice Actors NEVER turn down work). But considering noone noticed her voice until her name was spotted in the credits, and she herself said it was a different voice (again, VA's put alot of subtle individuality work into their charachters) then this is one of those instances where 1+1 doesn't actually equal 2.

If they had wanted a Hera voice cameo then i personally think it would have been during the Squadron roll call.