I think I may end up using the Assault more often. The extra damage potential will be nice both against ships and squadrons. I'm more likely to use my flotillas for squadron commands anyways.

I suspect the meta to shift to include at lot more H9s and other accuracy generating upgrades because of all the flotillas, thus making flotillas an unreliable source of squadron commands. Regardless, I'm very tempted by the relatively cheap and effective platform for FCTs. I'm considering 2x Pelta, Yavaris, and 1x GR-75 (just for the BCC) for my bombing focused fleet because of the opportunity to get 8 squadrons moving extra distance via FCTs per turn. Add in the All Fighters Follow Me Fleet Command upgrade, and those B-Wings and YT-1300s are going to be zooming around at lightspeed.

Its a Mixed-Relationship with Garm...

Garm LOVES getting those Tokens Turn 1 and 5..

But even WITH Phoenix Home... He's only giving it 2 Tokens... because its based on Command Value, not what it could hold...

So then you might want Tano nearby to be flipping that choice of token to the token you want.

I predict an FAQ allowing the Phoenix Home to take the 4 from Garm. Just because dang it.

Such an FAQ would simultaniously reduce Relentless to only being able to have 2 Command Tokens.

That is the level of the Errata-wizardly required.

Relentless:

The total number of command dials that must be assigned to your ship during the Command Phase is reduced by 1.

Only mentions command dials, not command value.....

Its a Mixed-Relationship with Garm...

Garm LOVES getting those Tokens Turn 1 and 5..

But even WITH Phoenix Home... He's only giving it 2 Tokens... because its based on Command Value, not what it could hold...

So then you might want Tano nearby to be flipping that choice of token to the token you want.

Garm:

At the start of the first round and the fifth round, each friendly ship may gain a number of command tokens equal to its command value.

Phoenix home:

You can be assigned up to 4 command tokens instead of a number of command tokens equal to your command value.

Wouldn't the title value "replace" the Garm restriction, since it uses "instead"?

No.

Your Command Value is still only 2...

It does not make your Command Value 4. (That would be one stack of Command Dials, though....)

You CAN be assigned up to 4. Not MUST be assigned 4.

Its a Mixed-Relationship with Garm...

Garm LOVES getting those Tokens Turn 1 and 5..

But even WITH Phoenix Home... He's only giving it 2 Tokens... because its based on Command Value, not what it could hold...

So then you might want Tano nearby to be flipping that choice of token to the token you want.

Garm:

At the start of the first round and the fifth round, each friendly ship may gain a number of command tokens equal to its command value.

Phoenix home:

You can be assigned up to 4 command tokens instead of a number of command tokens equal to your command value.

Wouldn't the title value "replace" the Garm restriction, since it uses "instead"?

Nope. As a Garm user, I really wish it was that way, but the wording is cut and dry. That doesn't stop you from generating another token on the first turn (one of the usual complaints about Garm), and it also helps if you still have tokens on board come turn 5.

It will be a great FCT platform for sure.

The Assault might be the first ship I'd ever consider using Rapid Reloads on.

Its a Mixed-Relationship with Garm...

Garm LOVES getting those Tokens Turn 1 and 5..

But even WITH Phoenix Home... He's only giving it 2 Tokens... because its based on Command Value, not what it could hold...

So then you might want Tano nearby to be flipping that choice of token to the token you want.

Garm:

At the start of the first round and the fifth round, each friendly ship may gain a number of command tokens equal to its command value.

Phoenix home:

You can be assigned up to 4 command tokens instead of a number of command tokens equal to your command value.

Wouldn't the title value "replace" the Garm restriction, since it uses "instead"?

No. Just like your Relentless Argument, it doesn't mention "Command Value".

hence the "Errata Wizardry" to change one is just as immense as to change the other....

It will be a great FCT platform for sure.

The Assault might be the first ship I'd ever consider using Rapid Reloads on.

*Checks to make sure no new upgrades are modifications...

Yes I would too.

And if you have Sato those reds are actually black dices. You can basically make a gigantic bomber form a Liberty for love's sake!

That's assuming you can get squads to distance one of the enemy's ships. Imperials have TIE swarms that will make that difficult.

Idk about that... it doesn't have to be able to attack the ship, just be near it. So I set the squadron in there and then shoot, then you swarm my squadron, but next turn I just send another & repeat. It'll be interesting to see how this plays out.

Normal Ship:

"What is your Command Value?"

- 3

"How many Tokens can you have?"

- My command Value, 3

"How many Tokens does Garm Give you?

- My command Value, 3

Phoenix Home:

"What is your command Value?"

- 2

"How many tokens can you have?"

- 4, instead of my Command Value.

"How many Tokens does Garm give you?"

- My command Value, 2.

Will let him finally feel like he's not wasting ALL of his time with precision strike 2nd Player...

... Timings of these things are getting more and more precise, too - so expect slipups from people.

(Garm is at the Start of the Turn - Before Command Dials, same time as Titus)

And if you have Sato those reds are actually black dices. You can basically make a gigantic bomber form a Liberty for love's sake!

That's assuming you can get squads to distance one of the enemy's ships. Imperials have TIE swarms that will make that difficult.

Idk about that... it doesn't have to be able to attack the ship, just be near it. So I set the squadron in there and then shoot, then you swarm my squadron, but next turn I just send another & repeat. It'll be interesting to see how this plays out.

I see ships changing speed to run from squads in order to not incur the wrath of Sato-packing ships, which will be hilarious......

Actually, in VERY SMALL type I can see it now!

.Phoenix Home

You Gain 1 Additional Dude

Icon in your upgrade bar.

You can be assigned up

to 4 command tokens

instead of a number of

command tokens equal

to your command value.

Like from Garm. Garm

Likey the Phoenix Home

and CNinja says to give

him 4 command tokes

from Garm just because.

It will be a great FCT platform for sure.

The Assault might be the first ship I'd ever consider using Rapid Reloads on.

I was saying the exact same thing to my Armada group about 15 minutes ago! I never thought I'd be considering Rapid Reload on anything...

Also, since you cant obviously run both Sato and Dodonna, I can see myself running ACMs on my MC30s/Pelta Assaults rather than APTs

Dras, I'd be curious to hear your interpretation of Ahsoka. The way I'm reading her, you can choose to exhaust her at any point during a ship's activation. For example, you activate Yavaris, spend a squadron token and resolve the command, then change a nav token to a squadron token. Am I getting that right? Or is "during a ship's activation" only when you reveal the command dial?

I like Ahsoka, very nice - looks like an interesting pack

Major Derlin on Bright Hope?

First thing I thought when looking at the article! Talk about hard to kill!

Speed 3 B-wings!

Speed 5 YT2400s! Oh my!

You gonna activate your rogues with squadron commands? Seems inefficient.

Normal Ship:

"What is your Command Value?"

- 3

"How many Tokens can you have?"

- My command Value, 3

"How many Tokens does Garm Give you?

- My command Value, 3

Phoenix Home:

"What is your command Value?"

- 2

"How many tokens can you have?"

- 4, instead of my Command Value.

"How many Tokens does Garm give you?"

- My command Value, 2.

Will let him finally feel like he's not wasting ALL of his time with precision strike 2nd Player...

... Timings of these things are getting more and more precise, too - so expect slipups from people.

(Garm is at the Start of the Turn - Before Command Dials, same time as Titus)

I definitely agree that they couldn't mess with "command value" because of the dial assignment. On the interaction......I think we will have to see what happens come FAQ time. I think FFG will be busy with this AND entrapment formation and G8, etc.

Dras, I'd be curious to hear your interpretation of Ahsoka. The way I'm reading her, you can choose to exhaust her at any point during a ship's activation. For example, you activate Yavaris, spend a squadron token and resolve the command, then change a nav token to a squadron token. Am I getting that right? Or is "during a ship's activation" only when you reveal the command dial?

I was thinking that exact scenario, Truthiness....

I think ill be putting Lando on the Pelta pretty often. It could be fairly susceptible to Jonus/Demolisher shenanigans. Cause I would definitely head hunt an opposite Pelta with Demolisher.

Something I just noticed, on the All Fighters, Follow Me card, at the extreme right edge, you can see the tailfin of an Assault Frigate MK I.

So they changed the text of Sato. .. look in expansion picture, then click commander Sato link and the text is changed. .. so it's definitely replace before you roll. ..which is much more balance and fair than roll 2 reds, oh that sucked, throw them away and roll two blacks

Normal Ship:

"What is your Command Value?"

- 3

"How many Tokens can you have?"

- My command Value, 3

"How many Tokens does Garm Give you?

- My command Value, 3

Phoenix Home:

"What is your command Value?"

- 2

"How many tokens can you have?"

- 4, instead of my Command Value.

"How many Tokens does Garm give you?"

- My command Value, 2.

Will let him finally feel like he's not wasting ALL of his time with precision strike 2nd Player...

... Timings of these things are getting more and more precise, too - so expect slipups from people.

(Garm is at the Start of the Turn - Before Command Dials, same time as Titus)

I definitely agree that they couldn't mess with "command value" because of the dial assignment. On the interaction......I think we will have to see what happens come FAQ time. I think FFG will be busy with this AND entrapment formation and G8, etc.

What about entrapment and g8. It's clear as is

Dras, I'd be curious to hear your interpretation of Ahsoka. The way I'm reading her, you can choose to exhaust her at any point during a ship's activation. For example, you activate Yavaris, spend a squadron token and resolve the command, then change a nav token to a squadron token. Am I getting that right? Or is "during a ship's activation" only when you reveal the command dial?

Ship Activation Ships are activated during the Ship Phase. When a ship is activated, its owner proceeds through the following steps.

1. Reveal Command Dial: Reveal the ship’s top command dial. Then either place the dial next to the ship in the play area or spend the dial to place the corresponding command token next to the ship in the play area.

2. Attack: Perform up to two attacks with the ship from different hull zones.

3. Execute Maneuver: Move the ship at its current speed.

• After a ship activates, place its revealed command dial faceup on its ship card to track that it has activated.

• Each ship can activate only once per round

Effect Use and Timing

Each effect in the game has a timing during which it can resolve. This timing is usually specified within the effect, though some effects use the more specific timing described in this section.

• A “while” effect can be resolved during the specified event and cannot occur again during that instance of the event.

SO

With the quotes out of the way.

We already "Accept" that "During" as at any point while the event is taking place... It was one of the reasons that Boba got a "When" instead of a "While"... A "When" made it at the start, a "While" was anypoint....

So yes.

IF your Yavaris starts with a Squadron and a Nav, it could spend its Squadron Token, and then change its Navigate to the Squadron Token with Ashoka, as long as it occurs some time between you flipping the Dial, and placing said dial on the Ship card, as per Ship Activation above.

So they changed the text of Sato. .. look in expansion picture, then click commander Sato link and the text is changed. .. so it's definitely replace before you roll. ..which is much more balance and fair than roll 2 reds, oh that sucked, throw them away and roll two blacks

I thought his cost better reflected after the roll. The premium on most rebel commanders is real.

I think he's still good though.

Not sure what the argument for G8 vs Entrapment Formation is. G8 is before, EF is during. 2 different timings, so you opponent uses G8 before you proceed.

Normal Ship:

"What is your Command Value?"

- 3

"How many Tokens can you have?"

- My command Value, 3

"How many Tokens does Garm Give you?

- My command Value, 3

Phoenix Home:

"What is your command Value?"

- 2

"How many tokens can you have?"

- 4, instead of my Command Value.

"How many Tokens does Garm give you?"

- My command Value, 2.

Will let him finally feel like he's not wasting ALL of his time with precision strike 2nd Player...

... Timings of these things are getting more and more precise, too - so expect slipups from people.

(Garm is at the Start of the Turn - Before Command Dials, same time as Titus)

I definitely agree that they couldn't mess with "command value" because of the dial assignment. On the interaction......I think we will have to see what happens come FAQ time. I think FFG will be busy with this AND entrapment formation and G8, etc.

What about entrapment and g8. It's clear as is

Honestly, I forgot they FAQ'd the G8 and engine techs. It is actually pretty clear the way it reads.