Guys, I know you want Garm to be able to put lots of tokens on Phoenix Home, but that's simply not supported by the rules as written.

Saying, "Well let's wait and see what the FAQ says..." is only gonna contribute to the same mismanagement of TO rulings that have plagued us for the history of this game, i.e.:

- The Intel Officer / Vader / Devastator interaction which was supported by the RAW being denied by TOs because a vocal part of the community didn't think that the spirit of the rules should allow it.

- The routine denial of the stacking capability of BCC without any support from the rules because, again it seems like something that shouldn't happen to a few people. The FAQ didn't address this because there's nothing to address.

Please just let the light and love of the RAW into your life.

Do you really want 4 command tokens on the Phoenix home anyways? I sure don't.

Guys, I know you want Garm to be able to put lots of tokens on Phoenix Home, but that's simply not supported by the rules as written.

Saying, "Well let's wait and see what the FAQ says..." is only gonna contribute to the same mismanagement of TO rulings that have plagued us for the history of this game, i.e.:

- The Intel Officer / Vader / Devastator interaction which was supported by the RAW being denied by TOs because a vocal part of the community didn't think that the spirit of the rules should allow it.

- The routine denial of the stacking capability of BCC without any support from the rules because, again it seems like something that shouldn't happen to a few people. The FAQ didn't address this because there's nothing to address.

Please just let the light and love of the RAW into your life.

Do you really want 4 command tokens on the Phoenix home anyways? I sure don't.

One of each? Not without Tano...

... Now, if it let me overcome the restriction of only one Token of each Type... Then hells to the bells yes....

But it doens't.

So I'll go back to my Codiene addled brainpain nw

Not sure what the argument for G8 vs Entrapment Formation is. G8 is before, EF is during. 2 different timings, so you opponent uses G8 before you proceed.

I was originally thinking that the interaction with Engine Techs might throw a monkey wrench,but I may be mis-reading ET. I was thinking that you could determine a course, move your ship, activate engine techs for a speed one maneuver (here's where I may have it incorrect), use EF to increase my speed to a speed two maneuver, the move my ship.

I can see where my flaw is though, in that you are not using your speed to determine the clicks on the ET, since it clearly states speed 1. EF would allow you to change your speed prior to the ET, but would not affect ET in the slightest.

I was originally thinking that the interaction with Engine Techs might throw a monkey wrench,but I may be mis-reading ET. I was thinking that you could determine a course, move your ship, activate engine techs for a speed one maneuver (here's where I may have it incorrect), use EF to increase my speed to a speed two maneuver, the move my ship.

I can see where my flaw is though, in that you are not using your speed to determine the clicks on the ET, since it clearly states speed 1. EF would allow you to change your speed prior to the ET, but would not affect ET in the slightest.

SEE... it all works out in the end.

I dislike indepence has been getting a bad rep. as of late. What if you have both indy and a pelta with AFFM? SPEED 5 EVERYTHING!!! Execpt A wings their already 5.

RAW? nope. I'm sticking with my Force Powers of Ridiculousness.

Phoenix Home gets the 4 tokens from Garm blast it!

(I know PH won't but will continue to insist every time that someone says he won't. Because.)

That's interesting... Stacking the Card Order that way...

Speed 5 B-Wings, AFTER a Distance 1 FCT move you say?

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Wait, so are you saying if you trigger AFFM for independence, they could move speed 5 on the Independence activation?

Thats what appears to be said.

Take Base Speed (2)... Increase Speed to of 4 for that activation, but can't shoot.

Then apply AFFM, because nothing happens simultaniously, you choose the Order...

Now you have +1 to your Speed (4), but can't shoot... For a Total of a Speed 5 Move...

... Potentially AFTER having Moved Distance 1 with FCT already.....

...

I need to put the two cards up to check for actual legitimacy, though... One minute.

Yep. Totally Legit.

The only time "Maximum" is written is under Speed 5.

Congratulations, you now have Speed 5 (but cannot attack) B-Wings...

... Unless Adar is There.

Then Keyan can.

because he's a bastard.

Of course, that's in the Squadron Phase, no doubt. Since you probably launched them completely out of all Squadron command range...

And Adar wouldn't allow the FCT move beforehand, because you need Flight commander to mandate that order...

So its kind of one or the other.

Normal Ship:

"What is your Command Value?"

- 3

"How many Tokens can you have?"

- My command Value, 3

"How many Tokens does Garm Give you?

- My command Value, 3

Phoenix Home:

"What is your command Value?"

- 2

"How many tokens can you have?"

- 4, instead of my Command Value.

"How many Tokens does Garm give you?"

- My command Value, 2.

So with Garm and Phoenix Title you can still take two tokens even if you already have one or two or three tokens. If Phoenix already has a Nav and an Eng it could still take a Squad and a CF from Garm.

Thats what appears to be said.

Take Base Speed (2)... Increase Speed to of 4 for that activation, but can't shoot.

Then apply AFFM, because nothing happens simultaniously, you choose the Order...

Now you have +1 to your Speed (4), but can't shoot... For a Total of a Speed 5 Move...

... Potentially AFTER having Moved Distance 1 with FCT already.....

...

I need to put the two cards up to check for actual legitimacy, though... One minute.

Yep. Totally Legit.

The only time "Maximum" is written is under Speed 5.

Congratulations, you now have Speed 5 (but cannot attack) B-Wings...

... Unless Adar is There.

Then Keyan can.

because he's a bastard.

Of course, that's in the Squadron Phase, no doubt. Since you probably launched them completely out of all Squadron command range...

Screw the B WIngs. I'm running Sato and launching 1300s in there to just EAT DAMAGE while I hit from long range with the Pelta Assault.

....Just kidding B wings I still love you.

...

INDEPENDENCE ISN'T DEAD...

.... IT JUST GOT FORCE MULTIPLIED.

Thats what appears to be said.

Take Base Speed (2)... Increase Speed to of 4 for that activation, but can't shoot.

Then apply AFFM, because nothing happens simultaniously, you choose the Order...

Now you have +1 to your Speed (4), but can't shoot... For a Total of a Speed 5 Move...

... Potentially AFTER having Moved Distance 1 with FCT already.....

...

I need to put the two cards up to check for actual legitimacy, though... One minute.

Yep. Totally Legit.

The only time "Maximum" is written is under Speed 5.

Congratulations, you now have Speed 5 (but cannot attack) B-Wings...

... Unless Adar is There.

Then Keyan can.

because he's a bastard.

Of course, that's in the Squadron Phase, no doubt. Since you probably launched them completely out of all Squadron command range...

And Adar wouldn't allow the FCT move beforehand, because you need Flight commander to mandate that order...

So its kind of one or the other.

That's what I love about these article discussions. We come up with the craziest notions, like multiple FCT + Indy + AFFM. Effectively you have somehow moved your B-wings to another table's play mats. I hope that impressed your opponent...

Thats what appears to be said.

Take Base Speed (2)... Increase Speed to of 4 for that activation, but can't shoot.

Then apply AFFM, because nothing happens simultaniously, you choose the Order...

Now you have +1 to your Speed (4), but can't shoot... For a Total of a Speed 5 Move...

... Potentially AFTER having Moved Distance 1 with FCT already.....

...

I need to put the two cards up to check for actual legitimacy, though... One minute.

Yep. Totally Legit.

The only time "Maximum" is written is under Speed 5.

Congratulations, you now have Speed 5 (but cannot attack) B-Wings...

... Unless Adar is There.

Then Keyan can.

because he's a bastard.

Of course, that's in the Squadron Phase, no doubt. Since you probably launched them completely out of all Squadron command range...

And Adar wouldn't allow the FCT move beforehand, because you need Flight commander to mandate that order...

So its kind of one or the other.

Unless you FCT with another ship.

Then Adar - Independance slingshot.

Then Speed 3 Yavaris in with a FC.

Might be just mad enough to work.

That's what I love about these article discussions. We come up with the craziest notions, like multiple FCT + Indy + AFFM. Effectively you have somehow moved your B-wings to another table's play mats. I hope that impressed your opponent...

Someone's going to be Swearing, though!

Wacky Hijinks won me a tournament.

I won't say no to more.

Thats what appears to be said.

Take Base Speed (2)... Increase Speed to of 4 for that activation, but can't shoot.

Then apply AFFM, because nothing happens simultaniously, you choose the Order...

Now you have +1 to your Speed (4), but can't shoot... For a Total of a Speed 5 Move...

... Potentially AFTER having Moved Distance 1 with FCT already.....

...

I need to put the two cards up to check for actual legitimacy, though... One minute.

Yep. Totally Legit.

The only time "Maximum" is written is under Speed 5.

Congratulations, you now have Speed 5 (but cannot attack) B-Wings...

... Unless Adar is There.

Then Keyan can.

because he's a bastard.

Of course, that's in the Squadron Phase, no doubt. Since you probably launched them completely out of all Squadron command range...

And Adar wouldn't allow the FCT move beforehand, because you need Flight commander to mandate that order...

So its kind of one or the other.

but why would you want to do that, other than to put your bombers in enemy fighter range?

Pelta Command Ship ---- 60

Phoenix home ---------------- 3

All Fighters Follow Me ---- 5

Boosted Comms ------------ 4

Flight Commander --------- 3

Engine Techs --------------- 8

Raymus Antillies ----------- 7

90 point ship, hmmmm

All Fighters Follow Me! to our mutual destruction at the hands of the Empire!

Thats what appears to be said.

Take Base Speed (2)... Increase Speed to of 4 for that activation, but can't shoot.

Then apply AFFM, because nothing happens simultaniously, you choose the Order...

Now you have +1 to your Speed (4), but can't shoot... For a Total of a Speed 5 Move...

... Potentially AFTER having Moved Distance 1 with FCT already.....

...

I need to put the two cards up to check for actual legitimacy, though... One minute.

Yep. Totally Legit.

The only time "Maximum" is written is under Speed 5.

Congratulations, you now have Speed 5 (but cannot attack) B-Wings...

... Unless Adar is There.

Then Keyan can.

because he's a bastard.

Of course, that's in the Squadron Phase, no doubt. Since you probably launched them completely out of all Squadron command range...

And Adar wouldn't allow the FCT move beforehand, because you need Flight commander to mandate that order...

So its kind of one or the other.

but why would you want to do that, other than to put your bombers in enemy fighter range?

Sato.

Plus, they're B-Wings.

They can take it, and be in bombing range next turn. Or at the veryleast, survive until the enemy ship runs them over...

Then they're still there.

For Sato.

I mean, with Indy, you could throw 2 Bs, a YT-1300, JAN and Keyan Farlander.

All ready for the next turn.

Why would one climb Everest?

Same reason

I like Ahsoka, very nice - looks like an interesting pack

Major Derlin on Bright Hope?

First thing I thought when looking at the article! Talk about hard to kill!

Speed 3 B-wings!

Speed 5 YT2400s! Oh my!

You gonna activate your rogues with squadron commands? Seems inefficient.

Sometkmes you have to, yes, to either strik3 first or in this case, go 5. Not bad.

Pelta Command Ship ---- 60

Phoenix home ---------------- 3

All Fighters Follow Me ---- 5

Boosted Comms ------------ 4

Flight Commander --------- 3

Engine Techs --------------- 8

Raymus Antillies ----------- 7

90 point ship, hmmmm

hmmmm indeed. Throw Sato on it like the article points out (be all thematic) and you have a ripe 122 point Pelta-Piñata awaiting the popping.

People routinely bring Interdictors that have that as a base cost and do far less than that PX-90 has the capability of doing.

People routinely bring Interdictors that have that as a base cost and do far less than that PX-90 has the capability of doing.

... In the Dictor's defence, they do have almst double the dice and almost double the hull, at the same time