Kanan Jarrus and Jyn Erso coulb be one of the most promising combos after wave 10. Cheaper than RecSpec with a potential of 3 focus against 3 ships (or just 1)

Cons: Has to be in arc

(Unfortunately cannot be combined with RecSpec)

So I see great potential here, especially durin first encounter

Two things:

(1) Against Dengaroo, Imp Aces, Scum Aces, Rey, or Dash, Jyn's only likely to provide a single Focus token since it is unlikely the enemy will send more than one ship into your front (the rest will flank).

(2) Jyn can be combined with Recon Spec

RecSpec requires you do a focus action, not be assigned a focus token

Jyn assigns tokens.

They dont mix.

RecSpec requires you do a focus action, not be assigned a focus token

Jyn assigns tokens.

They dont mix.

RecSpec + Jyn + Experimental Interface = 2 + X Focus tokens, where X = number Jyn gives you

You could also do RecSpec+RecSpec on the Ghost and Jyn on a support ship, which results in 3+X Focus for the Ghost.

The latter is probably overkill, but with Kanan making 4 TLT shots and using his ability, he could easily have use for 4+ Focus tokens some turns.

Rec Spec does not trigger off of Jyn, but there are lots of ways they can be combined.

RecSpec requires you do a focus action, not be assigned a focus token

Jyn assigns tokens.

They dont mix.

They do with Experimental Interface. You could potentially get 5 focus tokens from the two (plus a stress). Or you could double stack Recon Specs, save 2 points, consistently get 3 focus tokens, and not get stressed. Or you could move Jyn to a K wing or ARC and give their action to Kanan for up to 6 tokens. It likely wouldn't fit in 100 points, but you could put Jyn on a K wing, Kyle in the HWK, Recon Spec, Lando, and EI on Kanan... Best case scenario: Kanan focuses for 2, EI's for Lando for 2 more. K wing uses SLAM and AdvSL to make sure Jyn is R2 of Kanan and has 3 people in arc to pass 3 tokens to Kanan, now up to 7. Kyle passes another at the start of combat to give Kanan 8. And you're facing off against a standard 8 TIE swarm, all at R2, with all of their attacks being reduced to 1 die

When someone says it can be combined, that usually means one triggers the other.

Obviously if you had 2 actions you could do both. Dont think i'd bother doing both since why does Kanan really need 4+ focus? lol

When someone says it can be combined, that usually means one triggers the other.

Obviously if you had 2 actions you could do both. Dont think i'd bother doing both since why does Kanan really need 4+ focus? lol

*groan*

Combined means put together into the same collection. Since when does it have anything to do with Triggering? OP may have forgotten about Experimental Interface or not realized Jyn could be on a support ship alongside Kanan.

I'm so sick of people on these forums proudly making dumb claims and then backpedaling out of them when they're shown to be wrong. Fine, combined means trigger off of one another. You're so smart. You're right, Kyros and I are wrong. Congratulations. Have a forum cookie and a like! I'll subscribe to your YouTube channel now, oh infallible one!

EDIT: Kanan is probably the only ship in the game that could actually use four focus a turn. He makes four TLT attacks each round and would like to trigger his ability at every opportunity of an enemy attack. That being said, I've used RecSpec+RecSpec Kanan to good effect with his three Focus tokens. Even then, I would not run a Jyn crew in a Kanan list. She's simply far too difficult to use and her ability and action-cost will rarely make her better than a simple RecSpec given the current meta. If TIE Swarms and BBBBZ come back, she'll be quite useful. But today is not that day.

If you dont say the entire build, theyre not combined unless they have some unique interaction like kyle/kanan where one procs the other.

Theres no need to get all Internet Big Talk because you didnt say your entire point.

If you dont say the entire build, theyre not combined unless they have some unique interaction like kyle/kanan where one procs the other.

Theres no need to get all Internet Big Talk because you didnt say your entire point.

Wow, going for Troll Level 1000?

"Guys, things aren't combined in a list until you say the ENTIRE list, otherwise it doesn't count!!!!!"

I already said you win, dude. Congrats.

When someone says it can be combined, that usually means one triggers the other.

Obviously if you had 2 actions you could do both. Dont think i'd bother doing both since why does Kanan really need 4+ focus? lol

*groan*

Combined means put together into the same collection. Since when does it have anything to do with Triggering? OP may have forgotten about Experimental Interface or not realized Jyn could be on a support ship alongside Kanan.

I'm so sick of people on these forums proudly making dumb claims and then backpedaling out of them when they're shown to be wrong. Fine, combined means trigger off of one another. You're so smart. You're right, Kyros and I are wrong. Congratulations. Have a forum cookie and a like! I'll subscribe to your YouTube channel now, oh infallible one!

EDIT: Kanan is probably the only ship in the game that could actually use four focus a turn. He makes four TLT attacks each round and would like to trigger his ability at every opportunity of an enemy attack. That being said, I've used RecSpec+RecSpec Kanan to good effect with his three Focus tokens. Even then, I would not run a Jyn crew in a Kanan list. She's simply far too difficult to use and her ability and action-cost will rarely make her better than a simple RecSpec given the current meta. If TIE Swarms and BBBBZ come back, she'll be quite useful. But today is not that day.

Am I the only one that read the bolded lines in Aragorn's voice?

If TIE Swarms and BBBZ come back, she'll be quite useful. But *today* is not that day. If Tugboats and Bomber become a thing, she will be amazing. But TODAY is not that day. When 200 points becomes the standard, she will be the best. But TODAY is NOT THAT DAY! TODAY is the day of Rey and Recon Spec!!

When someone says it can be combined, that usually means one triggers the other.

Obviously if you had 2 actions you could do both. Dont think i'd bother doing both since why does Kanan really need 4+ focus? lol

*groan*

Combined means put together into the same collection. Since when does it have anything to do with Triggering? OP may have forgotten about Experimental Interface or not realized Jyn could be on a support ship alongside Kanan.

I'm so sick of people on these forums proudly making dumb claims and then backpedaling out of them when they're shown to be wrong. Fine, combined means trigger off of one another. You're so smart. You're right, Kyros and I are wrong. Congratulations. Have a forum cookie and a like! I'll subscribe to your YouTube channel now, oh infallible one!

There's a certain irony to making that statement right before backpedaling and editing out the dumb claims that you proudly made.

When someone says it can be combined, that usually means one triggers the other.

Obviously if you had 2 actions you could do both. Dont think i'd bother doing both since why does Kanan really need 4+ focus? lol

*groan*

Combined means put together into the same collection. Since when does it have anything to do with Triggering? OP may have forgotten about Experimental Interface or not realized Jyn could be on a support ship alongside Kanan.

I'm so sick of people on these forums proudly making dumb claims and then backpedaling out of them when they're shown to be wrong. Fine, combined means trigger off of one another. You're so smart. You're right, Kyros and I are wrong. Congratulations. Have a forum cookie and a like! I'll subscribe to your YouTube channel now, oh infallible one!

There's a certain irony to making that statement right before backpedaling and editing out the dumb claims that you proudly made.

The Edit was to add the part about why Kanan might actually sometimes want more than 3 Focus a round (notice the EDIT addendum in the post?).

This combo makes my imperial ships cry.....

I'd argue Adv. Sensors is better for this particular build because of the Jyn/Experimental Interface reliance.

Also, Carnor Jax would eat this list alive.

Carnor's not going to live long enough. 4 TLT shots (w/ FCS), even with AT is likely to get 1-2 hits through, so at most, he should be living 1 turn at R1 of Kanan. Plus, using Jyn to gain focuses is different than performing a Focus action, so that negates half of Carnor's effectiveness.

In general though, I question Jyn in today's meta. You're typically not seeing more than 2-3 ship lists, and it's unlikely that everyone is in Kanan's arcs, so you're probably getting 1-2 focuses via Jyn. So you're basically saving 1 point over recon spec, but really for a non-guaranteed 2 focus. And this is especially true if you're kyting with TLT.

Now, if the TIE swarm is to return... now we're talking! Especially if you couple Jyn with Rey or Recon.

I've been trying to perfect this list since Jyn was announced and this is the problem I keep facing.

The goal is maximizing focuses (for Kanan's ability and TLT) without having a useless wing mate (i.e. don't even suggest a HWK to me). Kanan + Attack Shuttle is clocking in at 70+ points. So the only real alternatives in my mind are:

I recon the following has mileage. Rec Spec, Lando and EU on a fully tooled Kanan with TLT, FCS/AS and shuttle. Then as your wingman, take Ashoka in Captured Tie with Sabine's Masterpiece (optional Jan Ors).

Now Kanan takes Focus as his main action while Ahsoka sticks close by and also takes a Focus. At the start of the Combat phase, Ahsoka spends her Focus token to give Kanan a free action which he uses to activate Lando (without the stress you normally get from EI). If you need to, Jan Ors can turn a Focus into an Evade if you want. If the situation warrants, you can Boost from EU, even after PS11 ships have moved. This means you can get irritants like Carnor out of your doughnut hole. Or move to within Range 1-2 of the enemy so as to activate Kanan's ability. Or arc dodge if you want because dodging an attack is even better than spending Focus to weaken.

56 Kanan Jarrus (38), FCS (2), Twin Laser Turret (6), Recon Specialist (3), Lando (3), EU (4), Ghost (0)

22 Ahsoka Tano (17), Veteran Instincts (1), Jan Ors (2), Captured TIE (1), Sabine's Masterpiece (1)

22 Ezra (20), Hera (1), Rage (1), Phantom (0)

Total: 100

I like adding Ahsoka with Jan Ors on board. Then either double Rec specs on Kanan or Rec spec/Jyn. The double rec spec build allows Kanan to end up with two focus and two evades. The jyn build allows for one focus, one evade, plus however many focuses jyn can give you or 1 more evade.

It also allows the ghost to fly through an asteroid and still get its action from Asohka which is nice when Kanans action can give him two focuses and 1 evade

I'd argue Adv. Sensors is better for this particular build because of the Jyn/Experimental Interface reliance.Also, Carnor Jax would eat this list alive.

Carnor's not going to live long enough. 4 TLT shots (w/ FCS), even with AT is likely to get 1-2 hits through, so at most, he should be living 1 turn at R1 of Kanan. Plus, using Jyn to gain focuses is different than performing a Focus action, so that negates half of Carnor's effectiveness. In general though, I question Jyn in today's meta. You're typically not seeing more than 2-3 ship lists, and it's unlikely that everyone is in Kanan's arcs, so you're probably getting 1-2 focuses via Jyn. So you're basically saving 1 point over recon spec, but really for a non-guaranteed 2 focus. And this is especially true if you're kyting with TLT.Now, if the TIE swarm is to return... now we're talking! Especially if you couple Jyn with Rey or Recon.

I've been trying to perfect this list since Jyn was announced and this is the problem I keep facing. The goal is maximizing focuses (for Kanan's ability and TLT) without having a useless wing mate (i.e. don't even suggest a HWK to me). Kanan + Attack Shuttle is clocking in at 70+ points. So the only real alternatives in my mind are:

I recon the following has mileage. Rec Spec, Lando and EU on a fully tooled Kanan with TLT, FCS/AS and shuttle. Then as your wingman, take Ashoka in Captured Tie with Sabine's Masterpiece (optional Jan Ors).Now Kanan takes Focus as his main action while Ahsoka sticks close by and also takes a Focus. At the start of the Combat phase, Ahsoka spends her Focus token to give Kanan a free action which he uses to activate Lando (without the stress you normally get from EI). If you need to, Jan Ors can turn a Focus into an Evade if you want. If the situation warrants, you can Boost from EU, even after PS11 ships have moved. This means you can get irritants like Carnor out of your doughnut hole. Or move to within Range 1-2 of the enemy so as to activate Kanan's ability. Or arc dodge if you want because dodging an attack is even better than spending Focus to weaken.56 Kanan Jarrus (38), FCS (2), Twin Laser Turret (6), Recon Specialist (3), Lando (3), EU (4), Ghost (0)22 Ahsoka Tano (17), Veteran Instincts (1), Jan Ors (2), Captured TIE (1), Sabine's Masterpiece (1)22 Ezra (20), Hera (1), Rage (1), Phantom (0)Total: 100

Whoops, somehow missed your post when I made mine. But definitely agree that Ahoska can be awesome with Kanan

Kanan Jarrus and Jyn Erso coulb be one of the most promising combos after wave 10. Cheaper than RecSpec with a potential of 3 focus against 3 ships (or just 1)

Cons: Has to be in arc

(Unfortunately cannot be combined with RecSpec)

So I see great potential here, especially durin first encounter

Two things:

(1) Against Dengaroo, Imp Aces, Scum Aces, Rey, or Dash, Jyn's only likely to provide a single Focus token since it is unlikely the enemy will send more than one ship into your front (the rest will flank).

(2) Jyn can be combined with Recon Spec

Ad point 2: You knew what I meant

There's a regional going on right now where a Kanan/Biggs variant with Rey, Rec. Spec. and TLT (with title, of course) is going to make the cut with maybe one loss.

Watched him beat a Bossk/Tel list - pretty impressive. And I'm liking what Rey does (total 180°).

Check it: https://community.fantasyflightgames.com/topic/236076-michigan-regional-streaming-today-link-inside/

There's a regional going on right now where a Kanan/Biggs variant with Rey, Rec. Spec. and TLT (with title, of course) is going to make the cut with maybe one loss.

Watched him beat a Bossk/Tel list - pretty impressive. And I'm liking what Rey does (total 180°).

Check it: https://community.fantasyflightgames.com/topic/236076-michigan-regional-streaming-today-link-inside/

That was my stream. I've discussed the effectiveness of the list in this thread. Rey's best use might be end game where you can F from Rey to reduce the incoming dice, and Evade for action, leaving you to take 1 damage max.

Yo, excellent flying. Had no idea that was you.

That's awesome - way to show in practice what you were detailing in theory. You, sir, have gained a lot of forum- and street-cred in my book.

Looking forward to seeing you take this next round.

Khyros is now 6-0 with this list:

So now that there are fewer AT lists, I've been revisiting Kanan/Biggs for Regionals, and have come up with the following:

Kanan w/ TLT, Recon, Rey, FCS, EU, Ghost

Zeb w/ Chopper, Phantom

Biggs w/ R3A2, IA

Yes I know, I'm silly for putting EU on a Ghost that's being protected by Biggs. But let's be honest, Biggs dies almost every game, leaving Kanan as your only ship on the board. One of my games that I lost I lost because the Inq had no problems staying in my blind spot, no matter what I did, and just continued to chip me down 2 health at a time. EU would have prevented that from being an issue. Furthermore, I've been able to do some fancy flying with the EU, even when I'm being "protected" by Biggs. And Rey helps when you perform a boost since it allows you to still get a Focus, and short of external effects, that's about the only way to do that.

So typically I end up with 1-2 Focus tokens on her before combat, and I use those early on, both denying their dice, and fully modifying mine for the early game advantage. But she works well as an end game piece as well. A single Ghost is easy enough to allow your opponent to regroup and have a concentrated attack. Yet if they do that, you're just accumalating focus tokens, which keeps you alive longer, allows you to evade (in addition to getting a F via Rey, and a TL via FCS) and allows you to boost to dodge shots (though you typically have to guess at this, though it's often a pretty decent gamble).

But the downside of Rey is that you lose tactician, which worked great on controlling the board (more from a no fly zone point of view than an actual stress point of view - it's great when Fel spends he two actions to get out of arc, losing his shot, and tokenlessly accepting 4 TLT shots - all to avoid being double/triple stressed). But this is mitigated by R3-A2 on Biggs. It's only a single point increase over R4-D6, but that droid only activated once in 9 games, and was pointless in the match. While Biggs is far from a stresshog when it comes to a threat on the board for control pieces, it certainly does shut down folks from self stressing - and it also works well on preventing non-Ryad Defenders from flipping around the next turn.

So with the games I've played with this setup, and the value add that Rey provides (even if some games she only provides 2 focus tokens throughout the match), I'd find it very difficult to drop her from the list. Which would mean Jyn would either replace Recon Spec, or have to go on an ARC-170 escort instead of Biggs.