Can you place on an asteroid?

By Dagonet, in X-Wing Rules Questions

With Han Solo (TFA) and Lt. Dormouse, you are no longer bound to the strict limitations of where you may place your ships.

Obstacles only trigger when you execute a maneuver.

So am I right in thinking you can plonk your ships on an asteroid (ensuring they won't need to overlap it when flying off) without ill effect?

I see no reason why not.

Nothing in the rules says that you can, or can't.

Oh that's a really interesting thought. Definitely nothing that says you can/can't so I think you'd be allowed to, though it wouldn't surprise me if it was clarified either way down the line

You can - its not forbidden anywhere. Moreover we know that ships are allowed to start its turn on obstacles so we can assume its a legal position for a ship.

The card says you can and nothing contradicts it.

Whether you roll for damage and take stress (if applicable) or not would be a matter for the FAQ though my best guess would be yes.

The card says you can and nothing contradicts it.

Whether you roll for damage and take stress (if applicable) or not would be a matter for the FAQ though my best guess would be yes.

You don't as long as you setup yourself that when leaving it you template does not overlap the obstacle - you receive obstacle effects when your template overlaps it or you end your movement on it -neither of those apply here.

agreed you can until new faq says otherwise

I was first wondering "but why would you want to?" But I see that one could catch an opponent off guard that way.

The card says you can and nothing contradicts it.

Whether you roll for damage and take stress (if applicable) or not would be a matter for the FAQ though my best guess would be yes.

You don't as long as you setup yourself that when leaving it you template does not overlap the obstacle - you receive obstacle effects when your template overlaps it or you end your movement on it -neither of those apply here.

This is no longer true. The most recent FAQ added a bit that deals with overlapping an obstacle when not performing a maneuver:

FAQ, pg 2:
"After a ship’s base or maneuver template overlaps an obstacle, and the
overlap is not from executing a maneuver, it suffers an effect based on the
type of obstacle:
Asteroid: The ship rolls 1 attack die. On a [hit] result, it suffers one
damage; on a [crit] result, it suffers one critical damage. While a ship is
overlapping an asteroid, it cannot perform any attacks.
Debris Cloud: The ship receives 1 stress token. Then, the ship rolls 1
attack die. On a [crit] result, it suffers one critical damage."
Unless there's something I'm not seeing that makes setting a ship on an obstacle during setup not count as an overlap there's nothing stopping you from putting New Han on an obstacle at the start of the game. You'd resolve the effects of the obstacle when he is deployed.
Edited by WWHSD

Hmmm, I'd checked the rules, but had not taken into consideration that the FAQ would have rules that superseded them.

The card says you can and nothing contradicts it.

Whether you roll for damage and take stress (if applicable) or not would be a matter for the FAQ though my best guess would be yes.

You don't as long as you setup yourself that when leaving it you template does not overlap the obstacle - you receive obstacle effects when your template overlaps it or you end your movement on it -neither of those apply here.

This is no longer true. The most recent FAQ added a bit that deals with overlapping an obstacle when not performing a maneuver:

FAQ, pg 2:
"After a ship’s base or maneuver template overlaps an obstacle, and the
overlap is not from executing a maneuver, it suffers an effect based on the
type of obstacle:
• Asteroid: The ship rolls 1 attack die. On a [hit] result, it suffers one
damage; on a [crit] result, it suffers one critical damage. While a ship is
overlapping an asteroid, it cannot perform any attacks.
• Debris Cloud: The ship receives 1 stress token. Then, the ship rolls 1
attack die. On a [crit] result, it suffers one critical damage."
Unless there's something I'm not seeing that makes setting a ship on an obstacle during setup not count as an overlap there's nothing stopping you from putting New Han on an obstacle at the start of the game. You'd resolve the effects of the obstacle when he is deployed.

I right i forgot about this FAQ. Well now i have to change my stand: you can place him - but you will roll for it and start a game with stress if thats a Debris.

Why?

Placing the ship is definitely part of the game right? But not executing maneuver right? And after all after this action you do overlap an obstacle. So the way i see you resolve this FAQ entry and roll.