I like the new Star Trek movies. Haven't seen the 3rd one yet, but I'm probably going to enjoy that one too.

Having seen all 3, Beyond quickly became my favorite of the new films. It kept the first reboot film's energy, cut out the lens flares, and plot holes, then added a bunch of great character moments. It's in my top 5 all time ST movies.

As for Rogue One... I'm excited to see it, if for no other reason than my hope to see new cap ships. That mystery pod has piqued my interest, and I can't wait to see if it's something new, or just a bit of MC-80 dangling in the scene. Beyond that, I'm willing to give it a chance and see what it can deliver.

Dr Strange was good, however, it reminded me of how Thor and Captain America were clearly set up movies to introduce the characters, rather than films in their own right. So next Dr Strange movie will be good!

DC do good tv programmes, Arrow, Flash, Legends are all decent. Marvels Jessica Jones is good to too. I fell asleep last time I watched Luke Cage...

Guardians of the Galaxy is the greatest movie this decade. (I am strongly influenced by film soundtracks)

Then I shall endeavor to see Dr. Strange.

Here's another that enjoyed Dr. Strange. I've never been a big fan of Wizards or sorcerers, but Dr. Strange made me reconsider my stance on magic users.

My executive secretary coerced me into viewing Dr. Strange...For me it dragged on until his magic manifested...The inverted time dimensions looked exactly like Inceptions CGI...Gave me headache and leg cramp during the climactic group fight scene ; too-many inverted images...Really glad I did nott see it in 3D...

The force Awakens had a Starship Troopers beginning scene,cinematography was terrible...After that it was an immersion of everything one would expect in a Star Wars movie...

Rouge One is somewhat of a disappointment for me when I realized it was a pre-quil to New Hope...Was expecing a new and intimidating Death Star complete with the new Darth Vader...I guess that Disney is going to create their own character

back story history around new characters to expound upond in future sequels...Overall it will probably be an enjoyable Star Wars movie experience for both the decadent & milineneal audiences...

So Kevin Smith just said Rogue One is Empire Strikes Back good which is Kevin's Holy Grail of all films. Don't care what anyone says their own fears are when one of the world's biggest Star Wars fanboys gave the movie such praise I have no worries. So far the word is the first and second acts are a little slow but the third act is being called film history we will be telling our grandkids.

I understand reservations but I have seen nothing to worry me and the reviews have all been good. I trust Kevin Smith more than most since we both are fanboys of similar age. So excited for this weekend. A Star Wars film that actually puts the War in Star Wars.

Just watched it - it's very ESB-esque indeed. Loved it.

It was pretty good. Not perfect, but one of the good ones.

They should have stayed away from cheesy CGI (Tarkin), but otherwise STUNNING visuals.

Edit: Vader also didn't look quite like he did in the OT, but can't put my finger on it.

Like TFA it worked better when it did NOT try to shoehorn in existing characters and other stuff.

Also, the black stormtroopers can hit stuff. So stay clear of them.

Personally, I am stoked to go see Rogue One on the big screen, but I understand some of the reasons why some folks are a bit hesitant, or perhaps even indifferent, or even disinclined to go see this first "side story".

But for me, I'm looking forward to seeing the Death Star on the screen one more time, as well as the classic ships (star destroyers, X-wings, TIE Fighters), stormtroopers and rebels, and Darth Vader. I'm looking forward to a good story (yes, I'm definitely along for the journey....we all know the aftermath....I wanna see the events that encompassed it, as a few others have stated.)

I'm also curious to see just how close the end of this movie will take us to the opening moments of Episode IV.

May the Force Be With Us

I like the new Star Trek movies. Haven't seen the 3rd one yet, but I'm probably going to enjoy that one too.

Having seen all 3, Beyond quickly became my favorite of the new films. It kept the first reboot film's energy, cut out the lens flares, and plot holes, then added a bunch of great character moments. It's in my top 5 all time ST movies.

As for Rogue One... I'm excited to see it, if for no other reason than my hope to see new cap ships. That mystery pod has piqued my interest, and I can't wait to see if it's something new, or just a bit of MC-80 dangling in the scene. Beyond that, I'm willing to give it a chance and see what it can deliver.

Yep, Star Trek Beyond is officially my favorite Trek film, period. (And I love 'em all, from The Motion Picture in '79, up through Into Darkness).

Beyond is the best of the reboots. If more future Trek movies are like Beyond, I couldn't be happier. And they'd still be better than any TNG era films, and probably still more fun than Destiny.

Anyway,

Rogue One, In my opinion, is the second best standalone Star Wars film in the saga... second only to A New Hope. If nothing else, you might like how Rogue One is the grittier version of Star Wars all us military buffs and tech heads have wanted to see. We have reinforcement airstrikes, snipers, ground operations, and even a fleet battle. If you want to see more of the original trillogy toys and joys in action once again, Rogue One doesn't disappoint.

I'd actually go as far as to say it's better than Episode 7. Force Awakens gives us the new chapter on the Skywalker family and some great characters to follow but let's be realistic: It borrowed too many ideas from ANH (Maguffin technical plans, large menacing battlemoon defeated in the climax). Rogue One doesn't, and I find the story original and actually emotional at points.

Empire Strikes Back's impact comes from giving depth to the characters we've already met in ANH, but Rogue One does a pretty good job of introducing and deepening the new characters in the cast. I think the ride is great. Even knowing that the Rebels will get the plan and that tension isn't there, we still get to see Vader at the height of his power and a few other old characters return for another look at the rebellion right before Yavin, along with some new ones that didn't get a chance to appear at Yavin.

And hey, in the very least, Rogue One gives us a better Death Star designer than Bevel Lemelisk.

No one asked for my opinion. But I'll express it anyway. Im a big star wars fan. So much so, that i cant get excited even one bit about rouge 1. Its politically correct. So much of that has gone around any way that i reject anything that also is..and its self defeating. Were finally at the last trilogy which was hard enough getting hardcore fans to accept. But now a "cut away" money grabbing movie that has characters no fan will probably care about. Just stop. Stick with the final trilogy and stop. Its ruining what magic starwars has. Its too much. Just stop before you ruin it more. Or before it becomes an extreme leftist movie. Which it already has developed into

Well, the movie turned out to be exactly what I thought it was going to be: a bunch of nobodies in a story that didn't need to be told. What surprised me was just how unlikable the main characters were and how inept and detestable the Rebellion was. The Empire doesn't seem so bad if these clowns are the alternative.

The earlier movies, especially the prequels, actually made it seem like a battle between two sides that each had legitimate points. Sure, the Empire was bad, but to the average working stiff, such as Luke, it was something that most people could live with. Rogue One goes full on cartoon bad guy with the Empire trying so hard to make them "bad" that they just seem silly.

If felt very much like Call of Duty: Star Wars.

Isn't the nasty side of the Rebellion - similar to "both sides have legitimate points" with "both sides do bad things"?

Isn't the nasty side of the Rebellion - similar to "both sides have legitimate points" with "both sides do bad things"?

It's the exact opposite. Instead of two sides with legitimate points, you have two sides that both completely suck. There's a common movie trope where the bad guy kills his own men to show how bad he is. In Rogue One, both sides are doing this for no reason.

[MINOR SPOILER WARNING]

In this part of the time line, the Senate still exists and, from the dialog in SW:RO, the Senate still has enough authority to shut down the Death Star. Yet, for some reason the Rebellion is in it's post-ANH configuration. Why are the leaders of the Rebellion hiding on Yavin 4 when some of them are Senators and should be in the Senate doing Senate stuff? Wouldn't having very high profile people flying back and forth to you "secret" rebel base be a security risk? In the original trilogy, Mon Mothma controlled the Rebellion without ever setting foot on either Yavin 4 or Hoth. The base is for the military leaders and not the political leaders who should be operating in secret out in the galaxy (exactly like the boardgame Star Wars Rebellion). This aspect hurt the Rogue One depiction of the Rebellion as it showed them as nothing but a military insurgency instead of a being, as in the OT, a broad diplomatic alliance whose member support them mostly in secret.

In the original telling of the Death Star plans story, Leia and her father plotted the whole thing from their palace on Alderaan. That made much more sense as, unlike this movie, Leia wasn't involved in the actual fighting and her "diplomatic mission" cover was reasonable. Of course, Rogue One also contradicts A New Hope when Vader says transmissions were "beamed to this ship".

Of course, Rogue One also contradicts A New Hope when Vader says transmissions were "beamed to this ship".

They were beamed to Raddus's ship - and Leia's was docked to it at the time. Hence they were beamed to both ships, since while docked they're effectively one ship.

Dravan had a reason - it just wasn't a good one - the assumption that Galen hadn't turned - and was luring them into a trap.

Similarly - Cassian's reason for killing his informant was that he was wounded already, so likely to be captured.

Man. Haters going to hate I guess. Some people talk like the most bitter film critics and nothing will ever ever make them happy now that they are adults. Anything made after their childhood is going to suck I guess.

Isn't the nasty side of the Rebellion - similar to "both sides have legitimate points" with "both sides do bad things"?

It's the exact opposite. Instead of two sides with legitimate points, you have two sides that both completely suck. There's a common movie trope where the bad guy kills his own men to show how bad he is. In Rogue One, both sides are doing this for no reason.

[MINOR SPOILER WARNING]

In this part of the time line, the Senate still exists and, from the dialog in SW:RO, the Senate still has enough authority to shut down the Death Star. Yet, for some reason the Rebellion is in it's post-ANH configuration. Why are the leaders of the Rebellion hiding on Yavin 4 when some of them are Senators and should be in the Senate doing Senate stuff? Wouldn't having very high profile people flying back and forth to you "secret" rebel base be a security risk? In the original trilogy, Mon Mothma controlled the Rebellion without ever setting foot on either Yavin 4 or Hoth. The base is for the military leaders and not the political leaders who should be operating in secret out in the galaxy (exactly like the boardgame Star Wars Rebellion). This aspect hurt the Rogue One depiction of the Rebellion as it showed them as nothing but a military insurgency instead of a being, as in the OT, a broad diplomatic alliance whose member support them mostly in secret.

In the original telling of the Death Star plans story, Leia and her father plotted the whole thing from their palace on Alderaan. That made much more sense as, unlike this movie, Leia wasn't involved in the actual fighting and her "diplomatic mission" cover was reasonable. Of course, Rogue One also contradicts A New Hope when Vader says transmissions were "beamed to this ship".

I feel like we watched two entirely different movies and I find your points absolutely bizarre. Don't get me wrong, you totally have a right to your opinion but I wholeheartedly disagree it.

First of all the whole hiding the Death Star from the Senate is because the funding for the project has to come from somewhere. The Emperor needs the senate to maintain order and if they were to immediately find out that their government is trying to build a planet killer maybe that wouldn't look so good and provoke outright galactic rebellion? If the senate learned about the project while the Imperials were still unsure if the super laser would work, the senate could make finishing the project difficult. Anyways the entire point of the Death Star is to subvert the Senate which is why they are disbanded not long after the Death Star is checked being fully operational. Rule through fear, the Tarkin doctrine.

What do you mean they tried too hard to make the Empire overly evil? In the original movie they blew up a planet full of pacifists for no other reason then to test a weapon they named the DEATH STAR! Then they build a second bigger DEATH STAR! Darth Vader force chokes his commanders for making mistakes and no one bats an eye. Do you even Star Wars?

The rebellion was ALWAYS a military insurgency dude with political backing from the very beginning. A diplomatic alliance doesn't amass soldiers and military personal on the scale we see at the end of ANH or collect ace X-Wing and Y-Wing pilots. What's strange about your argument is that Rogue One makes the Rebels seem more political and diplomatic then the original trilogy and EU ever made them. Mon Mothma and the Rebellion's leaders didnt want to fight. Furthermore they clearly state they disagreed with Saw Gerrera's tactics who is straight up a terrorist so the alliance has some morals. Even then every rebellion in the history of mankind has never been all good or all evil. Rogue One actually portrayed the Rebellion in a more realistic light were its full of humans, three dimensional humans.

Leia's diplomatic cover was BS, she knew it the moment she said it and so did Vader.

Personally I liked the main characters but that is totally subjective.

Regardless I am very sorry you didnt enjoy the movie, it was excellent.

Amazingly enough, my roomie and I got to go see it opening day.

We were blown away!

In fact, I am not ashamed to say I was in tears at the movie's end.

I love ALL the Star Wars movies...and have loved Star Wars since I was an 8 year old kid in 1977. I have little to no problems with the prequels or the OT Special Editions.

I enjoyed The Force Awakens, even if it did have a few minor quirks, it did little to detract from my enjoyment of it.

Yep, I loved Eps I, II, The Clone Wars Theatrical animated film, Episode III, IV, V, VI, and VII.

And Rogue One has taken its rightful place....and in my opinion, yes, it is right up there with The Empire Strikes Back. (For the record, ESB is my second favorite Star Wars film, just barely...barely....edged out by Episode III.)

Right now, my ranking for the films is thus:

Ep III

Ep V and Rogue One

Ep IV

Ep VII

Ep VI

Ep II

The Clone Wars

Ep I

The story for Rogue One was great. The visual effects were eye-popping. The war-movie styled cinematography during the climactic ground battle was some of the most intense for any Star Wars film. The humor was spot on. I wouldn't necessarily say that K-2S0 (excellently voiced and mocap acted by Alan Tudyk) "stole the show", but he did crack me up quite a bit. Michael Giachinno's score, blended with his arrangements of John Williams' original themes, was excellent. And, as I said before, by the time the movie was over, yes, I was in quiet tears, doing my best to fight them back, but the movie's magic had been worked, and the ending theme, which was a mix of the original EP IV end titles, and Michael Giachinno's themes had won the day.. This is the first Star Wars movie I ever felt that way about.

This is a war movie! This is definitely Star Wars for adults!

I think a lot of folks feared that, since this was a side story, that it would not receive the same "whiz bang, big screen, epic" treatment that the saga films got. It's nice to see that this was not the case. This movie is an absolute must see on the big screen... especially if you can catch it in IMAX 3D.

My roomie never got to see the original Star Wars in the theater in '77 (and he's a couple years older than I). He commented, after being blown away by the film, that the experience he had watching Rogue One had to have been what it was like for me when I saw the original Star Wars at the theater in '77. I said: "Absolutely!"

There was a lot of applause at the end of the movie from the audience.

I left the theater a happy man. I plan on going to see this at least one more time....hopefully again in IMAX 3D.

Now, I will say that, yes, this movie does fly in the face of some previously established knowledge that had been in existence for years in the Lucasfilm Archives, but, since this is the new canon, I'll accept it. (It will probably mean a re-write of the Hayne's Death Star Technical Manual. LOL!)

All I can say is: Go see this movie on the big screen!

No one asked for my opinion. But I'll express it anyway. Im a big star wars fan. So much so, that i cant get excited even one bit about rouge 1. Its politically correct. So much of that has gone around any way that i reject anything that also is..and its self defeating. Were finally at the last trilogy which was hard enough getting hardcore fans to accept. But now a "cut away" money grabbing movie that has characters no fan will probably care about. Just stop. Stick with the final trilogy and stop. Its ruining what magic starwars has. Its too much. Just stop before you ruin it more. Or before it becomes an extreme leftist movie. Which it already has developed into

I know, right? I mean, who the hell thought it would be a good idea to make women the lead protagonists in Star Wars? What are they, stupid, or just mind-influenced by those horrible feminists fighting for equality and equity? /s

Are you f'ing serious dude? What fracking century do you even live in? Women and minorities "[ruin] what magic starwars(sic) has"?? Do you even hear yourself? I mean, really, goddess forfend we should have a movie that shows women actually doing stuff, and being the heroes. And the poor young boys (let alone older men who grew up with this boys' fantasy world) who don't get to see themselves reflected in the protagonist, many for the first time in their lives, how will they cope? What will this do to their self-esteem? Oh, right, nothing, because virtually every other action lead is a white man.

Seriously, gtfo with this bs. Star Wars is a story of hope and change, of fighting the demons both within and without and overcoming them. Star Wars is about building a better world for all of us and those that come after. If you don't like that you don't belong in the fandom in the first place.

I mean, really, goddess forfend we should have a movie that shows women actually doing stuff, and being the heroes.

Most amusing thing here.

Sure Jyn was heroic, however, how many blokes gave their lives to help her succeed? If this film is seen as leftist extreme then I am very worried about the world.

No one asked for my opinion. But I'll express it anyway. Im a big star wars fan. So much so, that i cant get excited even one bit about rouge 1. Its politically correct. So much of that has gone around any way that i reject anything that also is..and its self defeating. Were finally at the last trilogy which was hard enough getting hardcore fans to accept. But now a "cut away" money grabbing movie that has characters no fan will probably care about. Just stop. Stick with the final trilogy and stop. Its ruining what magic starwars has. Its too much. Just stop before you ruin it more. Or before it becomes an extreme leftist movie. Which it already has developed into

Yes back in the first episode there were only white actors but that was because in the late 70's black actors just weren't in Sci-Fy movies because Hollywood was racist. But those days are over.

By the way here is Goerge and his beautiful wife.

Doesn't get any more diverse buddy. Think about that the next time you look at Star Wars and its Rebels fighting for the Civil Rights for all Species, because it is supposed to mimic the fight against the Nazis and the fight for Civil Rights in our world. That was always the subtext.

Also I loved all the actor choices for Rogue One and I saw Star Wars in theater in the summer of 77 and have seen all the movies opening weekend, watched all the shows and read many books and the direction of the new movies is good. What you are seeing is not a political agenda but Hollywood catching up with reality. Heroes come in all colors from both genders.

So, my friend's all excited about Rogue One and bought me a ticket to opening day but I have no interest in seeing it. I'm a huge Star Wars fan (obviously since I'm here) and consider Force Awakens to be one of the top 3 SW movies of all time so I'm not some Disney hater. I just can't get excited for a prequel that, by definition, won't have anything happen of significance. We know that the Rebels get the plans and we know that none of the characters from this movie ever contribute to the Rebellion again (unless they make a Rogue Two).

My only hope is that we'll get some cool looking new ships for Armada and X-Wing. But that will happen regardless of whether or not I even see the movie.

I guess it's fair since I dragged this same friend to see Dr. Strange even though he didn't know or care who Dr. Strange was. [Pretty sure he'd rather it was a Dr. Who movie]. Also, for transparency, I only watched the first trailer. I avoid all trailers as, more often than not, they spoil the entire movie.

Just wanted to go back to the OP and generally agree. I am not a fan of backstories in general, especially when we know how the overall outcome turns out. I'm far more hyped about Episode 8.

Still, Rogue One is Star Wars and I was still anxious to see it... and loved it, and it was awesome! I'm just that much MORE excited about Episode 8, because of all the unknown and the stakes have never been higher! So yeah I get your feelings, but I think you exaggerate when you say that you couldn't care less.

Personally, I have no problem seeing hot chicks kick *** in a fantasy or sci-fi movie.....or even in a show like NCIS.

It's a fictional story. Why should I shed tears just because a movie has a female protagonist in the lead?

Yes, Star Wars is and should be about diveristy. It is about a galaxy of a thousand thousand inhabited worlds. Some human, some not so human. Black, white, olive skinned, male, female, droid, what have you.

If there was one eentsy weentsy problem I had with Rogue One (and I do not say this in any way disrespectfully toward people of color or of foreign descent), but there were a lot of dialects and accents that I really had a hard time discerning what a lot of the characters were saying. (No, I'm not deaf, the theater crowd was politely quiet during the film's presentation.) But seriously, there was some dialogue I had to try and focus on, and could not because of the many accents... and sometimes, depending on the dramatic needs of the situation, just how fast they were speaking. I plan on going and seeing this movie again, but next time, I might make use of the theater's "closed caption" function, simply so I can see what is actually being said during some of those scenes.

Again, no disrespect intended with previous statement. MTFBWY'all.

Personally, I have no problem seeing hot chicks kick *** in a fantasy or sci-fi movie.....or even in a show like NCIS.

It's a fictional story. Why should I shed tears just because a movie has a female protagonist in the lead?

Yes, Star Wars is and should be about diveristy. It is about a galaxy of a thousand thousand inhabited worlds. Some human, some not so human. Black, white, olive skinned, male, female, droid, what have you.

If there was one eentsy weentsy problem I had with Rogue One (and I do not say this in any way disrespectfully toward people of color or of foreign descent), but there were a lot of dialects and accents that I really had a hard time discerning what a lot of the characters were saying. (No, I'm not deaf, the theater crowd was politely quiet during the film's presentation.) But seriously, there was some dialogue I had to try and focus on, and could not because of the many accents... and sometimes, depending on the dramatic needs of the situation, just how fast they were speaking. I plan on going and seeing this movie again, but next time, I might make use of the theater's "closed caption" function, simply so I can see what is actually being said during some of those scenes.

Again, no disrespect intended with previous statement. MTFBWY'all.

If you live in middle America without exposure to different cultures then it might be hard at first, but give it a little time and effort and you will have no issues. (I started with British films and found that was very useful to understanding accents, and their native tongue is English.)

Hi, Beatty,

Believe me, I'm pretty versed on accents and such (having moved around a lot as a military brat, and then joining the Army myself in my youth), at least usually when the person is talking directly to me. Normally, I'm really good at picking up on accents.

I thought Donnie Yen's speaking voice was pretty straightforward. It was Diego Luna's accent, and the actor playing the Imperial defector pilot, and yeah, Forest Whittaker's put-on accent that largely threw me for a bit. I think, again, it was in points where they may have had to speak fast. (In truth, I don't recall Saw Guerra --Whitaker's character, which was brought over from The Clone Wars animated series-- having all that much of an accent at all.)

Then again, I am a lot older than I used to be, but I'm not deaf. (don't worry, I know you didn't suggest I was )....hell, even at home I put on subtitles, but largely because I want to catch all the dialogue, especially the subtleties in the dialogue. I can thank the movie "South Park: Bigger, Longer, Uncut" for that...ha ha ha. (I also like picking apart subtitles when I know the character said one thing, but the subtitlist got the typing wrong..... largely in military films, or a lot of time in Warner Bros. movies....they are notorious for screwing up the dialogue in subtitles.)

I think what also may have happened is that I am sooooooo used to watching movies over the years with subtitles activated on DVD and blu-ray that I've grown more dependent on the text rather than listening to the dialogue. I guess you can say, I started listening with my eyes, and using my ears less.

My word, how did I miss this thread until now.

No one asked for my opinion. But I'll express it anyway. Im a big star wars fan. So much so, that i cant get excited even one bit about rouge 1. Its politically correct. So much of that has gone around any way that i reject anything that also is..and its self defeating. Were finally at the last trilogy which was hard enough getting hardcore fans to accept. But now a "cut away" money grabbing movie that has characters no fan will probably care about. Just stop. Stick with the final trilogy and stop. Its ruining what magic starwars has. Its too much. Just stop before you ruin it more. Or before it becomes an extreme leftist movie. Which it already has developed into

You're absolutely right!

Star Wars is being run by a vast left-wing conspiracy, which intends to let girls believe that they should do something other than clean the house, make dinner, and pop out a child every year or so. Did you notice how Finn and Poe looked at eachother in that scene when they're about to take off for Starkiller Base? They're trying to mainstream gayness! Rogue One is also showing terrorists (like Saw Gerrera, a black man with a Hispanic name) as good guys. What's next, Osama bin Laden as the hero of an American movie?

This political correctness has to stop, and these extreme leftists have to stop. I'm glad you had the courage to stand up to it. Also, I'm proud that you had the courage to step up to the leftist manipulation of your third-grade teacher, when she attempted to teach you grammatical correctness. Film-makers and teachers are ruining America!

Isn't the nasty side of the Rebellion - similar to "both sides have legitimate points" with "both sides do bad things"?

I know, right!? The original star wars is a good movie, because it shows you how a simple red-blooded white guy from the country, who knows how to install his own power converters, and have Faith, can take on the government and win! Rogue One wants to make you believe that if you take on the left-wing totalitarian government, that you'll end up dying and having the planet blown up (global warming conspiracy, amiright?). That's what you get when you have this even-Steven, both-sides-do-it, black is white, politically-correct trash.