Hey everyone.

Recently I have been playing the following list as my main tournament list.

Poe Dameron (PS8) (31)

Black One (1)

Veteran Instincts (1)

R5-P9 (3)

Autothrusters (2)

Red Ace (29)

R2-D2 (4)

Comm Relay (3)

Integrated Astromech (0)

Jess Pava (25)

R2 Astromech (1)

Integrated Astromech (0)

My Problem arises from the proliferation of tractor beams in my local meta (defenders and asaj mostly) but there is still commonly tlts. To counter this I have been considering the change of autothrusters on poe for seismic torpedoes on one of them, possibly red ace.

Would this be an effective counter to tractor beams? Is it worth the loss of autothrusters (but gaining integrated astromech).

Also If I do make the switch who deserves the torpedo?

If TLTs are a thing, I would not drop autothrusters. Biggs would probably be your best bet in place of Jess. If you still want seismic torpedoes, you could drop the title and swap in adaptability for Poe. I would not put the torpedoes on Poe, as it will prevent his focus, Red Ace would be my choice.

If TLTs are a thing, I would not drop autothrusters. Biggs would probably be your best bet in place of Jess. If you still want seismic torpedoes, you could drop the title and swap in adaptability for Poe. I would not put the torpedoes on Poe, as it will prevent his focus, Red Ace would be my choice.

Or put the torp on Jess. She's the anti-Biggs since she gets rerolls on defense... Better to ignore her to late game. But if she has scary firepower - say a proton torp, with two free rerolls, suddenly the choice gets ugly.

1. It your meta is TLT heavy autothrusters are a must. Dodging 2 shots with them already payed off more then IA.

2 Tractor Beams are arc dependent. Consider changing Poe to a full blown arc dodger (ex. PS9,PtL, BB8, AT, Primed Thrusters, B1) to dodge them by downgrading Jess to generic or even to T65. Red Ace care much less about beams then Poe.

3. I would not increase firepower but rather defense ability - maybe a biggs to force some early tlt trades? Naked Torpedos (by naked i mean just TL that you gonna spend to fire, no chips no focus) are not worth it maybe on poe with PtL but that gonna ramp him ~45 points usually... Seismics not gonna help you at all - just gonna loose cover from TLTs and make them more space to maneuver. Even if you catch all 4 of Ywing and damage all 4 they gonna be like: "oh ok meh...".

In our last tournament a guy flew something like this:

Wes Janson (34) X-Wing (29)

R3 Astromech (2)

Seismic Torpedo (2)

Veteran Instincts (1)

Integrated Astromech (0)

Wedge Antilles (33) X-Wing (29)

R3 Astromech (2)

Seismic Torpedo (2)

Adaptability (0)

Integrated Astromech (0)

Luke Skywalker (33)

X-Wing (28)

R3 Astromech (2)

Seismic Torpedo (2)

Veteran Instincts (1)

Integrated Astromech (0)

Not sure if it's super good, but It's quite flexible. Basically you can try to nuke someone with the PS 10 pilots and if you roll bad (two blanks and an eye for example) you can just take the evade token instead. Also, who cares about tractor beams when there are no asteroids on the map?

In our last tournament a guy flew something like this:

Wes Janson (34) X-Wing (29)

R3 Astromech (2)

Seismic Torpedo (2)

Veteran Instincts (1)

Integrated Astromech (0)

Wedge Antilles (33) X-Wing (29)

R3 Astromech (2)

Seismic Torpedo (2)

Adaptability (0)

Integrated Astromech (0)

Luke Skywalker (33)

X-Wing (28)

R3 Astromech (2)

Seismic Torpedo (2)

Veteran Instincts (1)

Integrated Astromech (0)

Not sure if it's super good, but It's quite flexible. Basically you can try to nuke someone with the PS 10 pilots and if you roll bad (two blanks and an eye for example) you can just take the evade token instead.

On paper it looks that bright "oh if i roll bad i can just take the evade" - cool but those are just x wings : 6hp, 2 agi even with that evade if they wont kill something fast with theirs focused firepower they will start dropping like flies.

Plus for me that list is wasting 6 points on those useless torpedos. Thats upgrading Luke to Poe and giving him some nice piece of tech on top of that. For me that list is rather NOT flexible - zero relocation, hurting strong parts of the ships you use to boost weak parts, that will remain subpar anyway.

Also, who cares about tractor beams when there are no asteroids on the map?

Your agility does.