This may seem like a no brained topic, but thanks for humoring me anyway.

First off I'm pretty new to Xwing. About 90 days now. Only have played against myself and my friend John.

I watch way more unboxing and games on YouTube than I should and I notice something that happens a lot. A player will reveal a green maneuver on their dial, overlap a ship, then remove a stress (stalling the shuttle is a good example).

The way I play considers this breaking the rules.

The following quotes are from the original core set rule book.

Activation Phase (page 7)

3. Execute a maneuver: Holding the template firmly in place, grip the side walls of the base and lift the ship off the play surface. Then place the ship at the opposite end of the template, sliding the rear guides of the ship into the opposite ends of the template.

Additional Rules

Overlapping other ships (page 17)

Plastic bases overlapping

If a ship executes a maneuver that would cause the final position of its base to physically overlap another ships base (even partially), follow these steps:

1. From the opposite end of the template, move the active ship backward along the top of the template until it no longer overlaps another ship, adjust it so that the template remains centered between both sets of guides on the ships base. Place the ship so that the bases of both ships are touching.

Activation Phase (page 7)

4. Check pilot stress: If the ship just executed a red maneuver, place one stress token near the ship. If the ship just executed a green manueuver, remove one stress token from the ship.

So here is my interpretation. Revealing a green maneuver on your dial, and executing a green maneuver are not the same thing. Stress can only be removed (in this instance) by executing a green maneuver. If a ship is overlapped it did not get to execute a green maneuver because it did not move its ship to the opposite end of the template into the rear guides.

To me it seems no-brainer, but I have seen this many many times on legitimate YouTube channels. If I do play in store tournaments I would like to know if I am correct or is it just something people and tournament organizers allow to bend.

Stalling a shuttle with palp aces makes a big difference if that shuttle still gets to perform actions (or any other ship freely removing stress for that matter).

Thanks

The videos are doing it correctly, though I can see where the confusion might come from. The way I see it, the ship is still attempting to execute the green maneuver, aka, the pilot isn't pushing the ship to its limits to try and doing something that would constitute a red maneuver... They just have to change their plans as another ship obstructs them.

As for tournaments: revealing a green, trying to fully executing the maneuver, and then bumping does remove a stress, but still prevents an action due to bumping (Except in the case of certain upgrades)

Ok thanks for the response and clarification.

I disagree that the pilot isn't pushing the ship to its limits though. I think in terms of 3 dimensional space. Essentially 2 ships are about to collide. The active pilot would have to pull up, dive, juke, or drastically change speed to avoid the collision. Thus not green and defiantly not removing stress if you were about to colide at speeds of over 1000 kph.

Actually its been touched on before by FFG that the ships are not about to collide, just that they are flying too fast past each-other to perform any sort of firing/action, but I digress.

Overlapping another ship does not change the fact that you are executing a maneuver. The rules merely layout what to do when you do overlap another ship (ie. move back along the template(s), skip "Perform Action" step, etc). The speed, bearing and colour of the maneuver all remain the same, so if you executed a green maneuver you still remove a stress token during "Check Pilot Stress".

Note the same thing applies to red maneuvers; if you overlap another ship while performing one you will still be assigned a stress token.

Seriously thanks. I'm not combative or trolling. Just asking and couldn't find a related topic through a search. I'll adjust the way I play.

FAQ, pg 21:

"Q: If a ship executes a green maneuver and overlaps a ship or

A: Yes"

The X-Wing FAQ is frequently updated and is full of good stuff. The current FAQ is linked to from the FFG X-Wing page . You should find the link near the bottom of the page under the Support section. Searching for "ffg x-wing FAQ" on Google will also get you a FAQ but it will often be one that is out of date.

10-4 Thanks. Downloaded updated FAQ.

Also, check page 18 of the rulebook:

STRESS

A ship is stressed while it has a stress token assigned to it. A stressed ship cannot execute red maneuvers or perform actions, even free actions. A ship receives one stress token when it executes a red maneuver and removes one stress token when it executes a green maneuver.

• When a ship executes a green maneuver, it removes one stress token from itself even if it moves through or overlaps an obstacle or another ship .

Sometimes things that seem thematically correct, don't follow the rules of this game.