Also referring to one released film as 'the new films' constantly is just weird...

Also referring to one released film as 'the new films' constantly is just weird...

I'll agree with both of you here!

One film and a couple of books is not enough to write all the fluff for a second edition, and FFG have made it clear they are not in the inner circle at Disney/LFL, they find out about the movies the same day we do.

I think Disney will be keen for content from Rebels and the new Trilogy to be included in this line, but FFG won't commit to an entire new second edition until after 2019, and even then it will be dependent on their confidence in retaining the license and making as much profit as possible from the RPG.

In reality it would make sense to finish of this giant library of books for this system, keeping us all happy and content. Then if you factor in it's a 12 month development process they perhaps then release another entirely different RPG system in 2019 (L5R?), then around 2020 begin work on 2nd Ed if Disney/LFL have laid out a solid road map that Star Wars is going to soldier on with movies, tv, books and comics in this new era for years to come.

I don't always disagree with you, but when I do it is completely.

I beg to disagree!

We seem to disagree all the time.

I don't always disagree with you, but when I do it is completely.

I beg to disagree!

We seem to disagree all the time.

I don't see a new edition. I do see a big book of gray boxes as a possibility. I'm sure these years into the system they'd probably like to massage a rule or two, or provide some alternatives.

You clearly see some recurring threads that generally start with "Is this right?!?" or something to that effect. Things like autofire and defense keep popping up. Included could be more thorough gameplay examples. I think everyone agrees no one wants a tactical space combat system, but...a bit more clarity and specificity in the current one would be welcome.

I doubt they're comfortable with answers like 'listen to podcast X' as a path to utilizing their system fully. It's a free way to clarify things but I'm sure they'd like it to be more polished by their own hands.

I can't confirm or deny details, but I do see verbiage tightening up in the Talents as these books progress.

What about The Old Republic Era - tell me that this wouldn't be an awesome Core book??? Exploring new planets and races. The ancient Sith and Je'daii could be Careers. New ships for that era. Extinct species. It could be an era when the sith lords ruled the galaxy. Revan and Malak! Old powers, long forgotten. The Hyperspace wars. Mandalorian wars - Career right there!

If they do something with the era in the new content I'm sure we will see something. If they don't I'm equally sure we won't. You need only look at the other product lines for Star Wars and even this one with TFA beginner box. New content in the game will mirror support new content from The Mouse. It's already happening.

I'd like to see Rogue One and original trilogy sourcebooks.

Can I ask a serious question? Why would anyone think we need a second edition of EotE? Because editing errors/typos? Is a second edition going to expand on or drastically alter the core mechanics? Is it "so bad, omg" we need a second edition? Is your money literally going to burn a hole in your pocket if you can't otherwise purchase 250+ pages of reprinted "fluff" text?

The presumption among more than a few is that a second edition wouldn't necessarily be an EotE 2E, but SWRPG 2E, uniting the concepts from the three lines into a single ruleset, and utilizing information from the newer movies/TV shows to differentiate it.

I think vehicle/space combat could be vastly improved. Possibly some of the stats on weapons etc could be tweaked. I'm not sure there's much that needs changing.

Having said that, I would be pretty annoyed at a 2nd ed, because of all the supplements I've bought. If FFG were clever they would make it backward compatible with what we have now.

What's next... I want an EoE Core II Unearthed Arcana book that has eight new species, six new Edge careers, each with three new specs, a light freighterload of new weapons, gear, vehicles, and ships, a bunch of new optional mechanics and the promise of six new splatbooks for the new careers!

RLogue, I doubt FFG would double up on Edge books or add a fourth game line because there is a limit to what can be done as the well of Star Wars stuff to stat up dries out. I do think that FFG will publish at least one more if not two more regional books and adventures for Edge the next two years.

What's next... I want an EoE Core II Unearthed Arcana book that has eight new species, six new Edge careers, each with three new specs, a light freighterload of new weapons, gear, vehicles, and ships, a bunch of new optional mechanics and the promise of six new splatbooks for the new careers!

Okay, I am kinda curious. What 6 careers do you feel the game is missing that aren't already covered?

We might see a new universal here and there. They might sit around the dev campfire and come up with a new spec for each existing career in time. I don't see the room for many, if any, new careers though.

After all the presently-predicted books are done I'd be tickled to keep spending money on books that help round out the setting. NPCs, Imperial sourcebook, more sectors, famous historical settings...I could go on. There's honestly no lack of material to cover.

I'd be reluctant to go after a 2nd ed - I'd rather see updated errata than face another 100lbs of books.

And then there could be an AoR Core II Unearthed Arcana book with six more careers and 36 more specs with six more splatbooks! And the same with FnD!

A book filled modular encounters and unique NPCs.

This x 10000.

As I GM more, I rely more and more on modular resources. A book of well-planned, adaptable modular encounters would be just glorious.

Three more core rulebooks and 36 career books is a tsunami of information overload. FFG knows that would be stretching things too far. As it is right now most of FFGs customers are close to reaching supplement fatigue. 1 Core Rulebook, 6 Career books, 2- 4 regional books and 2 - 4 adventures for each line is enough.

What about The Old Republic Era - tell me that this wouldn't be an awesome Core book??? Exploring new planets and races. The ancient Sith and Je'daii could be Careers. New ships for that era. Extinct species. It could be an era when the sith lords ruled the galaxy. Revan and Malak! Old powers, long forgotten. The Hyperspace wars. Mandalorian wars - Career right there!

There's absolutely zero chance of this. I'd buy it in a shot, it's one of the few eras that interests me, but the new owners have no interest in promoting anything outside their canon.

The MMO only still exists because of a historically-good relationship between Bioware and LucasArts.

(and anyway, if you want to play in that era, there's nothing stopping you. SW endlessly repeats the same old cycles so just rename certain things and you're good to go).

My dream for what is next is PDFs of the books. That would provoke me to spend great amounts of money (again).

I want to see a corporate sector region book, a tapani sector book (maybe an adventure book). Maybe a Kathol sector book or a FFG original sector book. I love how ossus appeared in nexus of power otherwise i'd be asking for that too.

I'd be reluctant to go after a 2nd ed - I'd rather see updated errata than face another 100lbs of books.

If they went second edition, I cant imagine that they'll do something completely incompatible with the old engine. It'd probably be like what WEG did with their first to second edition - better rounded character creation, some tweaks here or there - but generally the same game. There's a bunch of 1st Edition books that I never bothered upgrading, used them just fine all the way until the company shut down, and never missed a beat.

FFG will probably do something similar.

I'd be reluctant to go after a 2nd ed - I'd rather see updated errata than face another 100lbs of books.

If they went second edition, I cant imagine that they'll do something completely incompatible with the old engine. It'd probably be like what WEG did with their first to second edition - better rounded character creation, some tweaks here or there - but generally the same game. There's a bunch of 1st Edition books that I never bothered upgrading, used them just fine all the way until the company shut down, and never missed a beat.

FFG will probably do something similar.

That is what a editioning is supposed to be. WOTCs decision with 4th edition wasnt a wise one

Three more core rulebooks and 36 career books is a tsunami of information overload. FFG knows that would be stretching things too far. As it is right now most of FFGs customers are close to reaching supplement fatigue. 1 Core Rulebook, 6 Career books, 2- 4 regional books and 2 - 4 adventures for each line is enough.

My bookcase, and I bet alot of people here's bookcases, disagree. If they make a better game, I will be more than willing to pay for their effort. If they make a quality product, I will be more than willing to pay for their effort.

What about The Old Republic Era - tell me that this wouldn't be an awesome Core book??? Exploring new planets and races. The ancient Sith and Je'daii could be Careers. New ships for that era. Extinct species. It could be an era when the sith lords ruled the galaxy. Revan and Malak! Old powers, long forgotten. The Hyperspace wars. Mandalorian wars - Career right there!

There's absolutely zero chance of this. I'd buy it in a shot, it's one of the few eras that interests me, but the new owners have no interest in promoting anything outside their canon.

The MMO only still exists because of a historically-good relationship between Bioware and LucasArts.

(and anyway, if you want to play in that era, there's nothing stopping you. SW endlessly repeats the same old cycles so just rename certain things and you're good to go).

Never say never! But yes, I could easily convert this into an Old Republic game if my group were interested. I'd love to own a pair of that shiny Sith armour (drools)!

Personally I'd love a proper bestiary. All those enemy NPC's are scattered across a dozen books which makes looking stuff up a pain. I'd love for (almost) every statted NPC to just be in a book. Also, more creatures!