Fly Backward

By Graeme Lyon, in X-Wing

Scavenger Crane on Dengaroo. Dengar spends his Countermeasures, kills a ship, then uses Scavenger Crane to pick them back up again. Makes Dengaroo an even harder matchup for swarmy lists, wonderful.

Scavenger Crane will be stupid good on Dengaroo.

Definitely. I'm glad I misread it before and it's not 'stealing' a new upgrade. But refreshing discarded weapons is going to be quite nasty as an essentially unlimited extra munitions.

It's probably worth thinking about all the scum ordnance boats with Illicits - Khiraxz, firepray....hell, starviper, I guess. Guri getting a second Advanced Proton Torpedo is worth noting.

Unlimited except that you discard it 25% of the times you use it.

Welp, I called it on "Score to Settle" being a double-edged sword. Still going to be auto-include on Bossk, not sure who else really wants it with that downside.

Zuvio looks funny. The PS1 with Tractor Mod and Cloaking Device is going to be a Scummy version of Biggs.

I REALLY wonder what the PS5 pilot and the other crew does.

This ship might make Dead Man's Switch worth it.

Also, the Scum just got a support ship too. Jakku Gunrunner + Targeting Synchronizer + Targeting Comp

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Scavenger Crane on Dengaroo. Dengar spends his Countermeasures, kills a ship, then uses Scavenger Crane to pick them back up again. Makes Dengaroo an even harder matchup for swarmy lists, wonderful.

Scavenger Crane will be stupid good on Dengaroo.

Definitely. I'm glad I misread it before and it's not 'stealing' a new upgrade. But refreshing discarded weapons is going to be quite nasty as an essentially unlimited extra munitions.

It's probably worth thinking about all the scum ordnance boats with Illicits - Khiraxz, firepray....hell, starviper, I guess. Guri getting a second Advanced Proton Torpedo is worth noting.

"Essentially unlimited" is being generous. It only triggers when you destroy an enemy ship at R1-2 AND has a 50/50 25% to vanish after the first use.

edit; I do math gud

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This thing is crazy. Good thing it's able to be killed quickly.

alternative interpretation to QD needing scum Biggs:

it IS scum Biggs

Welp, I called it on "Score to Settle" being a double-edged sword. Still going to be auto-include on Bossk, not sure who else really wants it with that downside.

Zuvio looks funny. The PS1 with Tractor Mod and Cloaking Device is going to be a Scummy version of Biggs.

I REALLY wonder what the PS5 pilot and the other crew does.

I'm looking at it for Kylo Pilot. Shoot me if you want. I'll Blind you in response.

Also, Scavenger crane is only de-discarding things that were equipped to y our ship. Not stealing off others as some have read it- so you'll never end up with something you didn't bring in to the fight.

Exactly. It's essentially Extra Munitions.

With a much more tricksy trigger. That you can discard on an RNG roll.

What I really wonder is whether this has any utility on the cheap YTs for Rebels.

At least the recovery is always successful though. If you only have a single piece of ordnance it is potentially better than Extra Munitions. I'm going to look at it as a one-time use upgrade that has a 75% of getting a second use from. Getting one use out of it for 2 points earns back its points. Anything more than that is gravy.

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Scavenger Crane is gonna be neat though. Not sure where it's useful, however, especially as it doesn't work on illicits. 2 points is a lot to pay for what it does - but what it does is worth paying for, perhaps. And that action-tractor-beam is sweeeeeet.

It's an illicit so ... it can be on rebel YT-1400 (Old solo or Old Chewie perhaps), with Sabine Wren (crew) and a bomb :)

Not getting this expansion. I'm glad FFG is making expansions that are not "Must haves..." in oirder to stay competitive because of certain upgrades within the expansion. .

A fair point. I'll reword to "potentially unlimited".

Guri with APTs does seem like a nice use, though, because it doesn't seem like a particular stretch of the imagination that you'll get a kill when you fire them.

Not getting this expansion. I'm glad FFG is making expansions that are not "Must haves..." in oirder to stay competitive because of certain upgrades within the expansion. .

That's okay. I'll get two because... awesome and fun. :) So it'll all balance out.

Can someone tell me why this ship has 5 hull ? That's beefier than A LOT of ships that are designed for combat .

Guess that Tie/SF scored at least one Direct Hit! on Jakku...

A fair point. I'll reword to "potentially unlimited".

Guri with APTs does seem like a nice use, though, because it doesn't seem like a particular stretch of the imagination that you'll get a kill when you fire them.

Guri/Fearlessness/Virago/APT/Sensor Jammer/ATs/Scavenging Crane?

Expensive OWCH.

Can someone tell me why this ship has 5 hull ? That's beefier than A LOT of ships that are designed for combat .

Guess that Tie/SF scored at least one Direct Hit! on Jakku...

Because, reasons.

Tugboats in real life have a lot of extra padding on them compared to other ships for their size. Thats probably why it has 5 hull, its commonly sitting at 3-4 because it keeps slamming into things its tugging around

Also, Scavenger crane is only de-discarding things that were equipped to y our ship. Not stealing off others as some have read it- so you'll never end up with something you didn't bring in to the fight.

Exactly. It's essentially Extra Munitions.

Not exactly, it requires you to have spend EM already. And has no protection against boba fett. But close enough I guess.

Seriously, though, why does it work on Cannons and Turrets?? Because **** Boba Fett, that's why?

Speaking of Boba Fett, double fire sprays here they come. °_^

Ships that are not actually powered up and flying are a lot easier to hit. It presumably had no agility at that point ;)

alternative interpretation to QD needing scum Biggs:

it IS scum Biggs

Yeah, Tugboats will be a priority target.

Is this the best use of 47 points for Scum? Probably not. Am I considering repainting a Firespray to look like the Andrasta? You bet!

Emon Azzameen (36)
Cluster Mines (4)
Intelligence Agent (1)
Scavenger Crane (2)
Conner Net (4)
Andrasta (0)
Total: 47

Dont forget the crane can go away. Its ..what is it 50% chance to roll a blank on a red die? You still get the card flipped back up but you might only get it once.

Also this would be funny against swarms. Drop bomb...get one back...drop bomb...get it back...etc etc

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At least the recovery is always successful though. If you only have a single piece of ordnance it is potentially better than Extra Munitions. I'm going to look at it as a one-time use upgrade that has a 75% of getting a second use from. Getting one use out of it for 2 points earns back its points. Anything more than that is gravy.

Well, you're still only getting one use if your opponent is flying a two-ship list. :P

It is still a good upgrade though. It's basically EM+ for ships with an illicit and no second torp. slot.

Is this the best use of 47 points for Scum? Probably not. Am I considering repainting a Firespray to look like the Andrasta? You bet!

Emon Azzameen (36)
Cluster Mines (4)
Intelligence Agent (1)
Scavenger Crane (2)
Conner Net (4)
Andrasta (0)
Total: 47

No.

I've tried Emon a few times and he's not not efficient enough to work.

If you're going to use him, Burnout SLAM and EI along with Slave 1 and EM is probably a better way to get your bombs off.

Dont forget the crane can go away. Its ..what is it 50% chance to roll a blank on a red die? You still get the card flipped back up but you might only get it once.

Also this would be funny against swarms. Drop bomb...get one back...drop bomb...get it back...etc etc

Uhhh... Try 25%.

2 blanks, 2 focus, 3 hits, 1 crit. 8 sides total.

2/8 = 1/4 = 25%.

Ships that are not actually powered up and flying are a lot easier to hit. It presumably had no agility at that point ;)

I assumed that.. Oh well, if that's the worst thing I can say of this ship then it's a good expansion.

Honestly, I'm just happy that the Tugboat array is Quadjumper only and the Crane isn't as good as we thought it was going to be (because it's an Illicit and I prefer meta-changing upgrades be accessible to all factions - al la Autothrusters).