seems to be a rebel ship that sort of looks like the assault frigate mk2 but is smaller, perhaps transport or corvette size... anyone know what it is...
new ship in rebels s03e07
seems to be a rebel ship that sort of looks like the assault frigate mk2 but is smaller, perhaps transport or corvette size... anyone know what it is...
Taylander shuttle:
http://www.starwars.com/databank/taylander-shuttle
Legends pegs it as 43.5m long:
It has appeared several times before. It even appears in Episode II
Right next to the first civilian Gozanti.
Edited by melminiaturesI think Thrawn's tactical genious is overrated... who puts Konstantine in a fleet of one small base ship and some flotillas?
I think Thrawn's tactical genious is overrated... who puts Konstantine in a fleet of one small base ship and some flotillas?
Probably a case of trying to get Konstantine killed or into "embarrassing failure" territory, so he can be demoted.
His passing the blame onto his own tractor beam officer in the Season 2 pilot "It's not your fault, but Vader is not going to know this"
may be an example of the sort of thing that irritated Thrawn - similar behaviour certainly did in the EU.
Edited by Ironlord
I think Thrawn's tactical genious is overrated... who puts Konstantine in a fleet of one small base ship and some flotillas?
Probably a case of trying to get Konstantine killed or into "embarrassing failure" territory, so he can be demoted.
His passing the blame onto his own tractor beam officer in the Season 2 pilot "It's not your fault, but Vader is not going to know this"
may be an example of the sort of thing that irritated Thrawn - similar behaviour certainly did in the EU.
Given the exchange between Sato and Thrawn at the end of the episode, I imagine that it was a calculated move to draw out the Rebel admiral; deploy a respectable but light force under a senior commander, so that Sato would be prepared to risk sending proper reinforcements to help rescue his nephew. This would fit with the observation made earlier in the episode, where they note that if it's a trap it's not a very good one; Konstantine was the bait, rather than the hook.
Should probably have put a spoiler alert on these comments...
It appeared first in season 1, it's just a transport.
Glad to see the giraffe ISDs are making a come back in force...
The taylander shuttle could easily be another rebel flotilla along with that gunship class at Endor. So there's two perspective rebel ships.
The taylander shuttle could easily be another rebel flotilla along with that gunship class at Endor. So there's two perspective rebel ships.
Do the Rebels really need another unarmed ship? How would it be different than the GR75? These are the questions that keep me up at night...
Edited by UndeadguyIt has appeared several times before. It even appears in Episode II
Right next to the first civilian Gozanti.
The first civilian Gozanti was in Episode I. http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Gozanti-class_cruiser
Ah I see... thanks for clearing it up
Would be a cool generic objective ship for a future campaign expansion. Doesn't have to be added to either fleet necessarily. I'm thinking it could be represented in various missions where safeguarding a fleets support vessels or raiding behind enemy lines were objectives. Better than cardboard tokens for sure.
I think Thrawn's tactical genious is overrated... who puts Konstantine in a fleet of one small base ship and some flotillas?
I'm really hoping that the season finale is Thrawn implementing his plan. That plan resulting in the crushing of their cell (possibly with named casualties) to near non existence forcing them to join the wider movement.
That would validate his tactics thus far, testing and prodding the rebels to find what draws them out. Allowing him to leave the show with his fan base intact, and giving the imps a win, this would also make the empire appear to be a threat to be worried about.
Or... Thrawn turns out To be the new Fulcrum.
He has been using the rebellion and Imperial fleet to further his own far reaching agenda with galactic consequences.
I think Thrawn's tactical genious is overrated... who puts Konstantine in a fleet of one small base ship and some flotillas?
Probably a case of trying to get Konstantine killed or into "embarrassing failure" territory, so he can be demoted.
His passing the blame onto his own tractor beam officer in the Season 2 pilot "It's not your fault, but Vader is not going to know this"
may be an example of the sort of thing that irritated Thrawn - similar behaviour certainly did in the EU.
I thought EU Thrawn had nothing but love and admiration from his crew?
I thought EU Thrawn had nothing but love and admiration from his crew?I think Thrawn's tactical genious is overrated... who puts Konstantine in a fleet of one small base ship and some flotillas?
Probably a case of trying to get Konstantine killed or into "embarrassing failure" territory, so he can be demoted.
His passing the blame onto his own tractor beam officer in the Season 2 pilot "It's not your fault, but Vader is not going to know this"
may be an example of the sort of thing that irritated Thrawn - similar behaviour certainly did in the EU.
Konstantine was the one who blamed the tractor beam operator for what was actually his own fault.
Thrawn in the EU once killed a tractor beam operator for trying to pass off blame to someone else.
Thrawn was loved and admired by his crew. However he also tested them, to make sure they were the best for the job. Konstantine failed his test...
What part of Thrawn's EU back story is Legends? I always get it confused. If all of it is, we know he was loyal to the Emperor, so, he isn't the new Fulcrum.
That said, he doesn't die till later, (I forget exactly where, but, somewhere in the OT), so, his plans could be far reaching in Rebels.
Personally, I still think Ezra will fall to the dark side, (and maybe become Snoak?), however, (just thought of this), what if his fall is precipitated by Thrawn killing someone, (Sabine?).
Personally, I still think Ezra will fall to the dark side, (and maybe become Snoak?)
Not sure if serious or not.....
Ezra is not Snoke.
What part of Thrawn's EU back story is Legends?
All of it.
Until "Thrawn" the Novel is released, and we get new, Canon, backstory.
@Nickvr628 How can you be sure?
@Dras I hate how legends has mashed together SOME canon and SOME EU. Confuses the heck out of me. So, Thrawn and Leia ALMOST having an affair is Legends?
Aside from Wookipedia is there an easy way to figure out what is Legends and what didn't transition from canon/EU?
@Nickvr628 How can you be sure?
@Dras I hate how legends has mashed together SOME canon and SOME EU. Confuses the heck out of me. So, Thrawn and Leia ALMOST having an affair is Legends?
Aside from Wookipedia is there an easy way to figure out what is Legends and what didn't transition from canon/EU?
You have it wrong.
Legends is Legends. Legends is inherently non-canon. Legends is the place where canon goes to die.
Bits and Pieces of it, however, can make it back to canon... Remember - if it is legends, it is Legends...
In that light:
EVERYTHING TO DO WITH THRAWN, WITH THE SPECIFIC EXCEPTION OF WHAT FOLLOWS, IS LEGENDS.
For CANON:
The Only Backstory that Thrawn has right now, was what was presented in Star Wars: Rebels.
1) That he was recently Promoted to the rank of Grand Admiral by the Emperor.
2) That the promotion was in regards to an uprising he recently quelled.
3) That he is an appreciator of Art.
4) That he gets a "bigger picture"
5) That he Commands the 7th Fleet, in parallel to Admiral Konstantine, who commands the 6th Fleet.
THAT IS IT
Until such time as the new "Thrawn" Book is released, which will have some details of the background, I assume...
But that's all.
Outside of Wookieepedia - look at the Production Date of the Material or Source in Question....
In Short (and non-exhaustive, but here's the gist of it)
If it is:
Published Before that Fateful Date in April, 2014....
And not: One of the 6 Movies, or The Clone Wars TV Series...
Then it is not "canon"
It is "Legends".
Parts of it may make it back into Canon. But it must do that with a new source.
Wookieepedia just makes it easy with their Canon / Legends tab.
Oh good lord. So, LEgends, canon and EU are separate but MAY cross at times? Is Legends just what Disney decide to keep from the combo of EU and canon?
Oh good lord. So, LEgends, canon and EU are separate but MAY cross at times? Is Legends just what Disney decide to keep from the combo of EU and canon?
No, still not there.
Legends IS EU. EU is Legends. IF IT IS NOT CANON, THEN IT IS LEGENDS.
There is No crossover between CANON and LEGENDS... They are SEPARATE things... Consider Canon as TRUTH and Legends as MYTHOLOGY.
Canon is what the "true" storyline is. Canon may, at new writing progression - cherrypick parts of the Legends for information - for example, they have cherrypicked Grand Admiral Thrawn.
However. That is basically all they Cherrypick. It Takes Nothing With it unless specified...
The Depiction of Thrawn in Rebels basically picked:
- He was a Grand Admiral
- His name is "Thrawn" (Note, not his full chiss name, as of yet - that's legends - all he is known as is Thrawn)
- He is a Chiss - and has those racial traits.
- He studies art and the art of War.
THAT IS IT.
It is easiest to realise that, basically, as far as the storyline is involved: Canon is Truth.
Canon tells the story, as it is intended to be by the owners and story-artists...
Legends is where all the stories that no longer fit the storyline are. There may be bits of pieces of "TRUTH IN THE LIES" as such to be explored coming forward, but That will not be under: "X-X Story of the Rogue Squadron is now canon..."... It will be presented as a New story that has cherry-picked bits and pieces for New Canon.
That's it.
Thrawns Original 3 stories written by Timothy Zahn,and all they contain? Fiction, as far as the storyline is concerned. utter Nonsense. The Whole Deal. Compete and utter tripe and lies.
A Man Named Thrawn, Who Was a Grand Admiral...... Truth in the Lie. Everything else in those books is suspect, but thanks to Rebels, we know that a Man named Thrawn Existed, and he was a Grand Admiral who could see the bigger picture....
This is confusing. Isn't Rebels Canon due to the fact that Disney wrote it? Much like Clone Wars was Canon due to it being Lucas? Or has Disney said that Lucas is canon and we have a new canon that we will call legends?
Bear with me. I used to be good at the whole canon vs EU