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Votes in (#)
1. Zuckuss (15)
2. Palp (9)
3. TLT , Veteran Instincts (7)
Edited by TitaniumChopstickI've never understood the VI hate. It's such a neat way of shaking up expectations, especially in mirror matches. I guess it kinda exacerbates the PS race, but I think the lack of it would just mean bigger initiative bids.
Interesting to see Zuckuss above Palp. I thought we all thought it was Manaroo's lack of range restriction that was the problem 
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You can only nerf Zuckuss if you nerf the X7 defender title and Palpatine at the same time.
The meta will literally be 75% Defenders if Zuckuss is nerfed and X7 is not nerfed.
I've never understood the VI hate. It's such a neat way of shaking up expectations, especially in mirror matches. I guess it kinda exacerbates the PS race, but I think the lack of it would just mean bigger initiative bids.
Interesting to see Zuckuss above Palp. I thought we all thought it was Manaroo's lack of range restriction that was the problem
Note: This is a RESULTS thread, please do not vote here as the poll is officially over.
Results are from: https://community.fantasyflightgames.com/topic/234454-vote-here-most-hated-upgrade-card-in-x-wing/page-9
Votes in (#)
1. Zuckuss (15)
2. Palp (9)
3. TLT , Veteran Instincts (7)
I have counted several times and i find 7times x7.
Thus 3rd place TLT, VI, X7.
Wait, the polls are wrong here too! 
yeah, I fear the community is suffering under some severe dellusions based upon the "x-wing's ugliest ships" results and this
what kind of deranged individual believes that an upgrade that reduces the impact of green dice is worse than one that exacerbates them 
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Note: This is a RESULTS thread, please do not vote here as the poll is officially over.
Results are from: https://community.fantasyflightgames.com/topic/234454-vote-here-most-hated-upgrade-card-in-x-wing/page-9
Votes in (#)
1. Zuckuss (15)
2. Palp (9)
3. TLT , Veteran Instincts (7)
I have counted several times and i find 7times x7.
Thus 3rd place TLT, VI, X7.
yeah, I fear the community is suffering under some severe dellusions based upon the "x-wing's ugliest ships" results and this
what kind of deranged individual believes that an upgrade that reduces the impact of green dice is worse than one that exacerbates them
I've never understood the VI hate. It's such a neat way of shaking up expectations, especially in mirror matches. I guess it kinda exacerbates the PS race, but I think the lack of it would just mean bigger initiative bids.
I think VI is one of those upgrades that people hate because they feel like they need to take it.
A lot of the hate is also probably left over from pre-errata Phantoms. Whisper would have been less dominant if she was stuck at PS7.
I don't understand VI at all. Compared to Zuckess or Palp, it's practically worthless. Not really of course, but I don't get it.
Removing VI would open up design space a lot.
Removing VI would open up design space a lot.
How so?
VI should have been 2 points. Then it would more fall in line with FFG's initial point system for pilots. In general you pay 2 points to go up 2 PS. Now they are kind of changing that tune and pricing pilots better.
Edited by Jo JoVI should have been 2 points. Then it would more fall in line with FFG's initial point system for pilots. In general you pay 2 points to go up 2 PS. Now they are kind of changing that tune and pricing pilots better.
Naw, they hit the price point right -- there's the opportunity cost of the EPT slot, and it's purely a bidding upgrade card -- it might be really important in some matches, but in a large number of games, it won't even slightly matter.
Removing VI would open up design space a lot.
How so?
Every time they design a pilot they have to perform two balancing acts. One with VI and one with every other ept.