The Results Are In: Most Hated Upgrade Card in X-Wing

By TitaniumChopstick, in X-Wing

I've never understood the VI hate. It's such a neat way of shaking up expectations, especially in mirror matches. I guess it kinda exacerbates the PS race, but I think the lack of it would just mean bigger initiative bids.

Interesting to see Zuckuss above Palp. I thought we all thought it was Manaroo's lack of range restriction that was the problem :P .

You can only nerf Zuckuss if you nerf the X7 defender title and Palpatine at the same time.

The meta will literally be 75% Defenders if Zuckuss is nerfed and X7 is not nerfed.

I've never understood the VI hate. It's such a neat way of shaking up expectations, especially in mirror matches. I guess it kinda exacerbates the PS race, but I think the lack of it would just mean bigger initiative bids.

Interesting to see Zuckuss above Palp. I thought we all thought it was Manaroo's lack of range restriction that was the problem :P .

Wait, the polls are wrong here too! :o

yeah, I fear the community is suffering under some severe dellusions based upon the "x-wing's ugliest ships" results and this

what kind of deranged individual believes that an upgrade that reduces the impact of green dice is worse than one that exacerbates them :huh: ?

Edited by ficklegreendice

yeah, I fear the community is suffering under some severe dellusions based upon the "x-wing's ugliest ships" results and this

what kind of deranged individual believes that an upgrade that reduces the impact of green dice is worse than one that exacerbates them :huh: ?

:(

I've never understood the VI hate. It's such a neat way of shaking up expectations, especially in mirror matches. I guess it kinda exacerbates the PS race, but I think the lack of it would just mean bigger initiative bids.

I think VI is one of those upgrades that people hate because they feel like they need to take it.

A lot of the hate is also probably left over from pre-errata Phantoms. Whisper would have been less dominant if she was stuck at PS7.

I don't understand VI at all. Compared to Zuckess or Palp, it's practically worthless. Not really of course, but I don't get it.

Removing VI would open up design space a lot.

Removing VI would open up design space a lot.

How so?

VI should have been 2 points. Then it would more fall in line with FFG's initial point system for pilots. In general you pay 2 points to go up 2 PS. Now they are kind of changing that tune and pricing pilots better.

Edited by Jo Jo

VI should have been 2 points. Then it would more fall in line with FFG's initial point system for pilots. In general you pay 2 points to go up 2 PS. Now they are kind of changing that tune and pricing pilots better.

Naw, they hit the price point right -- there's the opportunity cost of the EPT slot, and it's purely a bidding upgrade card -- it might be really important in some matches, but in a large number of games, it won't even slightly matter.

Removing VI would open up design space a lot.

How so?

Every time they design a pilot they have to perform two balancing acts. One with VI and one with every other ept.