So does anyone think we are likely to see the X-Wing or Y-Wing revisited given Rogue One will be featuring both of them? I for one have wanted a Rebel Veterans/Rogue Squadron themed expansion for ages now – with new title cards to give these old ships a boost. I know we just got Heroes of the Resistance, but I don’t like the idea of the T-65 being left behind in favour of the new stuff; except for Biggs – his ability means that he sees play.

Could a competitively priced generic PS6 ‘Rogue Squadron Pilot’ with an EPT slot (in the same vein as the Royal Interceptor and Glaive Defender) work? Maybe something similar with the Y-Wing… ‘Defender Wing Pilot’? I do find it a bit ridiculous that a generic PS3 Scum ship like the JumpMaster has an EPT slot but Horton Salm and Dutch Vander don’t

A repainted ‘Partisan’ X-Wing (as seen in Rogue One) or Corran Horn’s Green X-Wing could justify releasing the T-65 again and I’m sure there is an alternate scheme that could be done for the Y-Wing. Grey Squadron maybe?


I’m not entirely sure what would fix the T-65 X-Wing without making the T-70 redundant. But these are a few things that crossed my mind;

- Maybe a Title card that gives you a discount on Astromechs
- A full-on Chardaan Refit type of card that discounts the ship as a whole
- Something more thematic, like a ‘Red Leader’ or ‘Rogue Leader’ title that could buff friendly ships with shared focus/target locks?
- A Title card that implements the adaptable nature of the S-Foils? Similar to the U-Wing's Pivot Wing, maybe an agility increase/boost at the cost of firepower?



In terms of the Y-Wing.. it is pretty strong with TLT already. But again, a few thoughts;

- Maybe a title card that incentivizes *other* types of turret too?

Something along the lines of;
“You can perform attacks with an Ion Cannon Turret within range 1-3 (instead of 1-2).”

or maybe something to help out the bomber variant:
“Your upgrade bar loses the turret icon, but gains the Crew icon. You cannot equip a crew upgrade that costs more than 4 points.”



Curious to hear what everyone else thinks, as I haven’t seen this discussed much since earlier in the year. What would you all like to see if they were to revisit these old ships and do you think it is at all likely?

So does anyone think we are likely to see the X-Wing or Y-Wing revisited given Rogue One will be featuring both of them? I for one have wanted a Rebel Veterans/Rogue Squadron themed expansion for ages now – with new title cards to give these old ships a boost. I know we just got Heroes of the Resistance, but I don’t like the idea of the T-65 being left behind in favour of the new stuff; except for Biggs – his ability means that he sees play.

Could a competitively priced generic PS6 ‘Rogue Squadron Pilot’ with an EPT slot (in the same vein as the Royal Interceptor and Glaive Defender) work? Maybe something similar with the Y-Wing… ‘Defender Wing Pilot’? I do find it a bit ridiculous that a generic PS3 Scum ship like the JumpMaster has an EPT slot but Horton Salm and Dutch Vander don’t

A repainted ‘Partisan’ X-Wing (as seen in Rogue One) or Corran Horn’s Green X-Wing could justify releasing the T-65 again and I’m sure there is an alternate scheme that could be done for the Y-Wing. Grey Squadron maybe?

I’m not entirely sure what would fix the T-65 X-Wing without making the T-70 redundant. But these are a few things that crossed my mind;

- Maybe a Title card that gives you a discount on Astromechs

- A full-on Chardaan Refit type of card that discounts the ship as a whole

- Something more thematic, like a ‘Red Leader’ or ‘Rogue Leader’ title that could buff friendly ships with shared focus/target locks?

- A Title card that implements the adaptable nature of the S-Foils? Similar to the U-Wing's Pivot Wing, maybe an agility increase/boost at the cost of firepower?

In terms of the Y-Wing.. it is pretty strong with TLT already. But again, a few thoughts;

- Maybe a title card that incentivizes *other* types of turret too?

Something along the lines of;

“You can perform attacks with an Ion Cannon Turret within range 1-3 (instead of 1-2).”

or maybe something to help out the bomber variant:

“Your upgrade bar loses the turret icon, but gains the Crew icon. You cannot equip a crew upgrade that costs more than 4 points.”

Curious to hear what everyone else thinks, as I haven’t seen this discussed much since earlier in the year. What would you all like to see if they were to revisit these old ships and do you think it is at all likely?

After worlds and hearing that the T-65 "will get its fix", I think its more than likely. I think a title that either gives discounts on astromechs or discounts on ordnance for the T-65 would be nice to have. And while having Corran horn in his corsec green x-wing would be a dream come true, I feel we'll be getting the Partisan X-wing and rogue one pilots based accordingly.

Now the bomber variant Y-wing could use a little boost maybe, and maybe something for the currently named pilots, a title that gives an ept slot for free, but PS must be 5 or higher. I know we already have an R2 unit that gives epts for +1 points, but that cripples the y-wing out of some other decent astros it could use. The crew idea is nice though. They could also use some more pilots in general, maybe the rest of the pilots in the trench run? It seems the Y-wing and E-wing are polar opposites of each other. E-wing's top named pilot is the one to have, while Y-wings bottom pilot is the one you see everywhere.

Y-wing title

Enemy ships at range 1-3 may only remove 1 Ion token per turn.

Now run with Ion turrets, and either Ion torps or Ion bombs. Or Ion turret and damaging torps. Or Ion turret and proton bomb. Pair with Ion cannon B-wing. Could be fun.

So does anyone think we are likely to see the X-Wing or Y-Wing revisited given Rogue One will be featuring both of them? I for one have wanted a Rebel Veterans/Rogue Squadron themed expansion for ages now – with new title cards to give these old ships a boost. I know we just got Heroes of the Resistance, but I don’t like the idea of the T-65 being left behind in favour of the new stuff; except for Biggs – his ability means that he sees play.

Could a competitively priced generic PS6 ‘Rogue Squadron Pilot’ with an EPT slot (in the same vein as the Royal Interceptor and Glaive Defender) work? Maybe something similar with the Y-Wing… ‘Defender Wing Pilot’? I do find it a bit ridiculous that a generic PS3 Scum ship like the JumpMaster has an EPT slot but Horton Salm and Dutch Vander don’t

A repainted ‘Partisan’ X-Wing (as seen in Rogue One) or Corran Horn’s Green X-Wing could justify releasing the T-65 again and I’m sure there is an alternate scheme that could be done for the Y-Wing. Grey Squadron maybe?

I’m not entirely sure what would fix the T-65 X-Wing without making the T-70 redundant. But these are a few things that crossed my mind;

- Maybe a Title card that gives you a discount on Astromechs

- A full-on Chardaan Refit type of card that discounts the ship as a whole

- Something more thematic, like a ‘Red Leader’ or ‘Rogue Leader’ title that could buff friendly ships with shared focus/target locks?

- A Title card that implements the adaptable nature of the S-Foils? Similar to the U-Wing's Pivot Wing, maybe an agility increase/boost at the cost of firepower?

In terms of the Y-Wing.. it is pretty strong with TLT already. But again, a few thoughts;

- Maybe a title card that incentivizes *other* types of turret too?

Something along the lines of;

“You can perform attacks with an Ion Cannon Turret within range 1-3 (instead of 1-2).”

or maybe something to help out the bomber variant:

“Your upgrade bar loses the turret icon, but gains the Crew icon. You cannot equip a crew upgrade that costs more than 4 points.”

Curious to hear what everyone else thinks, as I haven’t seen this discussed much since earlier in the year. What would you all like to see if they were to revisit these old ships and do you think it is at all likely?

After worlds and hearing that the T-65 "will get its fix", I think its more than likely. I think a title that either gives discounts on astromechs or discounts on ordnance for the T-65 would be nice to have. And while having Corran horn in his corsec green x-wing would be a dream come true, I feel we'll be getting the Partisan X-wing and rogue one pilots based accordingly.

Now the bomber variant Y-wing could use a little boost maybe, and maybe something for the currently named pilots, a title that gives an ept slot for free, but PS must be 5 or higher. I know we already have an R2 unit that gives epts for +1 points, but that cripples the y-wing out of some other decent astros it could use. The crew idea is nice though. They could also use some more pilots in general, maybe the rest of the pilots in the trench run? It seems the Y-wing and E-wing are polar opposites of each other. E-wing's top named pilot is the one to have, while Y-wings bottom pilot is the one you see everywhere.

What's this about worlds then?

In the world x-wing match stream, Alex mentions a few ship in need of a fix, alluding to something forthcoming. The ships mentioned were the x-wing, and I think Kihraxz, and StarViper. I think it was a discussion about the Scyk fix in the FAQ.

Also, the challenge of an X-wing fix is Biggs. The X-wing pilots run the full gammut of abilities, with offence, defence, assist and regen (with droids). This make a fix more complicated than say the TIE-D, with most all the pilots designed for pure offence.

Biggs is really good, and is something of a force multiplier, that any buff to the x-wing threatens to make him OP. I've had a theory though, that the past year's powercreep has been intentional, in order to bring the rest of the game up to the the power level of a "fixed" x-wing.

In the world x-wing match stream, Alex mentions a few ship in need of a fix, alluding to something forthcoming. The ships mentioned were the x-wing, and I think Kihraxz, and StarViper. I think it was a discussion about the Scyk fix in the FAQ.

Also, the challenge of an X-wing fix is Biggs. The X-wing pilots run the full gammut of abilities, with offence, defence, assist and regen (with droids). This make a fix more complicated than say the TIE-D, with most all the pilots designed for pure offence.

Biggs is really good, and is something of a force multiplier, that any buff to the x-wing threatens to make him OP. I've had a theory though, that the past year's powercreep has been intentional, in order to bring the rest of the game up to the the power level of a "fixed" x-wing.

1) If they were powercreeping to keep up with an unreleased fix, that would be terrible. If nothing else, the power creep has left B-wings out in the cold, and G1A (which was balanced against the B-wing) dead on arrival accordingly. So here's hoping not.

2) Biggs is dangerous because defensive power improves him drastically. There's a reason we're seeing a lot more of him since IA was released, he got strictly better at his job description. A mobility or offensive boost would help Biggs a whole lot less, but potentially help the rest of their ilk instead. The danger here is Poe, who already enjoys advantages of high PS and semi-inherent die mods, getting stronger yet.

You're right that the abilities run the gamut, and that makes any fixes very difficult. I do wonder whether it ends up being an astromech-directed fix accordingly, to shut out R2-D2 a little bit more. We'll see...

I reckon it will be a group of titles and bring the different types into the game.

You would have T65A which will help with offence, T65B which adds a Snap Wrexley like ability. T65C will allow double mods and then maybe T65D which removes the torp and provides a discount cost on driods

Only one helps Biggs and that will make him a point cheaper. Not exactlyet breaking the meta.

Then you add in some other interesting astromech options that help move you away from regen ... Maybe like a Mindlink driod or something like a Targeting Synch driod where as long as one of you has a target lock, all others that have this driod may re roll their dice against that target.

Or they could release a T65 unique torp which deals additional damage to large Base ships specifically?

I dont like the Black and White X-wing paint job at all, it looks like a crumpled wet newspaper where the ink ran everywhere.

Give me Green Cor-Sec Corran Horn X-wing over that thing any day.

Hell, I'd even wouldnt mind a x-wing with a bunch of Marks of Imperial fighters to mark all of wedge's kills.

Other interesting paint jobs I wouldnt mind would be Gavin Darklighter's during the events of the Bacta War. He painted his entire ship styled like a Krayt dragon.

Come on, Need more REAL x-wing love.

CorSec/Wraith Squadron X-Wings are the only acceptable Veterans pack paintjobs. It's too bad there's really no E-Wing pilots/squadrons other than what we've got.

People keep miss hearing/quoting Alex on the x wing thing. He talked about x wings and in the same breath talked about how the heroes of the resistance pack would help them out. He was talking about the T70 but everyone keeps jumping on this. There will be a fix at some point (they can't not do it) but Alex said nothing about the t65.

FFG... DON'T YOU DARE NOT DO A ROGUE ONE X-WING AND Y-WING GROUND KILLERS EXPANSION!

THESE BABIES SHOW UP @1:50.

PROLLY ON C-DOGGS DESK RIGHT NOW I BET!