I would just like to point out that Tagge is probably the most useless Admiral in this game....I mean...turn 3 you get defense tokens back...that rarely matters and turn 5...okay...so I get some tokens back that a well rigged enemy will blow through anyway.
I'm a little salty...I lost a campaign game because I took him with some victories...thinking he'd help shield them with giving back tokens...and...yeah...no...he is...just bad...
Motti-4-lyfe
Well, what did you expect.
If you havn't spent a token by Turn 3, then you're using him wrong.
So if that "Rarely matters", asky yourselfsy whysy...
For me, that means the Needa-ISD can keep TRCing away! And can even Double-Arc TRC Turn 2!
So, y'know.
Asky yourselfsy whysy...
Well, what did you expect.
If you havn't spent a token by Turn 3, then you're using him wrong.
So if that "Rarely matters", asky yourselfsy whysy...
For me, that means the Needa-ISD can keep TRCing away! And can even Double-Arc TRC Turn 2!
So, y'know.
Asky yourselfsy whysy...
Exactly this. It's like complaining that Ackbar was useless cause you flew nose first into your enemies.
Also, Tagge is next to useless on VSD's due to No ECM's. You want to be SURE you can burn off that token to mitigate some serious damage. I love him with ISD's and flotillas. You can brace and scatter to your hearts content
Edited by MandalorianMooseExactly this. It's like complaining that Ackbar was useless cause you flew nose first into your enemies.Well, what did you expect.
If you havn't spent a token by Turn 3, then you're using him wrong.
So if that "Rarely matters", asky yourselfsy whysy...
For me, that means the Needa-ISD can keep TRCing away! And can even Double-Arc TRC Turn 2!
So, y'know.
Asky yourselfsy whysy...
Yep.. flotillas, ISD, glads.. ships without redundant tokens, that will push for an early fight.. also small ships are only trading 1 hull from motti which is easy to equivalate (real word?) with a restored token or two.
He is an admiral you have to actively use/plan for, so motti is always the easier to have, whether or not Tagge has more potential if run well.
Tagg will see more love come wave 5, and the Imperial light cruiser, with TRCs running in a swarm with flotillas.
Well, what did you expect.
If you havn't spent a token by Turn 3, then you're using him wrong.
So if that "Rarely matters", asky yourselfsy whysy...
For me, that means the Needa-ISD can keep TRCing away! And can even Double-Arc TRC Turn 2!
So, y'know.
Asky yourselfsy whysy...
Exactly this. If you run Tagge's fleet at the other guy hoping he'll let you maximize Tagge's ability, you're doing it wrong. If you've included TRCs (this will be a lot more popular with the Arquitens, calling it now) so you can spend the tokens yourself and put ECMs on the ships you can (again, Arquitens) then he works much better. You can get a sip of what he'll be capable of with an ISD-II with TRCs and ECMs right now.
Related to another thread about rarely chosen cards,....
Tagge is good with Fleet Ambush objective!!!
Love tagge
So, how do you guys pronounce his name. In my mind, I have a hard time keeping that 'e' silent, though I pronounce it '-uh'.
I can see him being fun with IDS-Is going speed 3 at my enemy, with some flotillas to manage the activations.
The problem I've run into with him is that if your opponent is generating a lot of accuracies for their token lockdown, even with ECM you're still not getting the opportunity to use your brace twice. I haven't tried him since the beginning of wave 4 though, I can see him being useful now that not everyone is throwing around a million blue dice with liberties and Interdictors in every list
Tagge is amazing with ECM. But if you can't 100% burn the token to gain tempo/damage don't use him! If you are trying to run 2 ISD II there is no better Admiral for surviability. It was very good in the first few weeks of Wave 4 but now MUS is dominating so it's tricky to play into activation/bombers.
Wave 5 will be amazing for:
There are many unknowns. Does it add or take away from another slot? Will it cost 6+ (that's what i said last episode) or what will it cost? Then there is oppurtunity cost in Officer choice. There is a lot of things that could make it bad but all i know is ECM on an ISD I, Interdictor or VSD would be ******* huge. It means that a mixed fleet of ISD II, either Medium ship, X amount of Arquitens would be able to hit Tagges ability every time. Your Interdictor/VSD wouldn't get chopped to death by TRC so easily as well.So, how do you guys pronounce his name. In my mind, I have a hard time keeping that 'e' silent, though I pronounce it '-uh'.
I have always pronounced his name like Taj as in Taj Mahal.
So, how do you guys pronounce his name.
I wish it was "Taj-eh" but I think it is just like "Tag" you're it.
I think so far he has been the most elusive Commander. I've been planning all wrong. He's an OFFENSIVE commander. You guys thinking about TRC for days are right.
Is Tagge actually "amazing"? or just combos in a mind-twisting way with certain cards that is cool, but is questionably efficient and/or less useful than the direct and simple Motti buff?
Not a fan myself... setup cost is huge, while Motti just gives you the bonus that a lot of the time is equal or better... I would say that I'm hoping that wave 5 makes him better, but honestly when wave 5 drops it's going to be Jerjerrod every day am I right??
You'll be surprised. I'm playtesting a Tagge list and it has a potential to be pretty strong in the current meta.
You'll be surprised. I'm playtesting a Tagge list and it has a potential to be pretty strong in the current meta.
If anyone can break tagge it'll be this guy...
As a counter-argument I would point out that if engagement occurs in round 2, and tagge's ships are hit only by acc'ed attacks(which is likely considering the age of flotillas), then tagge's ecm ships still won't be able to burn the brace in time for turn 3, as ecm is an exhaust. Also if enemy does focus fire, it limits the number of ships that can receive the turn 3 token recovery.
He does work well against intel officers though.
One thing to note is that Tagge does help against squadrons, to mitigate bombing runs from single black dice bomber swarms like y-wings and tie bombers too.
Tagge is best used with big ships and very few of them. You play aggressively and try to make your opponent aggro on just one ship. If played properly you will nullify more damage with recovered tokens than motti will give you with three measly hull. ECM is a must for a tagge build though. Also, I say tagge as tah-gah.
Also: Intel officer.
Is Tagge actually "amazing"? or just combos in a mind-twisting way with certain cards that is cool, but is questionably efficient and/or less useful than the direct and simple Motti buff?
For a 2 ISD II fleet Tagge is amazing compared to Motti, I played it out for a while.
* Intel Officer/discard security
* Spend a brace twice when you can, depend on the given arcs you will take you can brace damage that does not contain an acc (CR90 is pretty common) and go on to brace a larger hit with ECM
* Sustained damage mitagtion over time well and above what 2-3 hull provides. Just getting a humble evade token back twice can stop up to 4 extra damage over the course of a game or deal it out.
His two weakness right now is no divesity in ECM capable ships and no other viable ship that can fuel an effect by aggressively spending tokens. This is going to change soon off already know informaiton.
Edited by Trizzo2I think the Arquitens will be Tagge's ship of choice in the future.
These Days I see a lot of intel officers on ships. With Tagge, you wont have to Think too much. Flottilas, ecm ships love him. Many Will argue this, but in my opinion, he is Better than motti, if used correctly. Scattering at least 2 more Times > 1 hull. Bracing 2 more Times vs 3 damage... Well, depends on what you are facing, but you can easily End up preventing 6-8 damage. If you face big alpha stikes, motti is your man, and against bomber Wings, motti might be slighly ahead. Also, Tagge works best if you play aggressive, and make an all-out attack, so you can get back tokens in turn 3.