Lightened Frame and TIE Swarms

By J1mBob, in X-Wing

Autothrusters was likely made with the idea that it would be a type of 'fix' for arced ships against turrets. Thus it is powerful and cheap.

Since AT guarantees an evade (if the conditions are met), does it help set a likely price point for Lightened Frame? Lightened Frame also has a condition it seems: the attack dice probably need to outnumber your defence dice for it to proc. And if that is met, then you get to roll a (fickle) green die. Isn't this arguably weaker than AT, and so maybe cheaper than 2 points?

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Edited by J1mBob

I'd be surprised if it's more than 1, and I'd guess at 0.

It sounds a lot like Trick Shot from what we can see of it - not that likely to proc and with major penalties and/or restrictions. I'd guess at 0 and it's intended to be a Punisher and Bomber fix as well. But only if it's a title because lol punishers and bombers won't take a mod...

I'd be surprised if it's more than 1, and I'd guess at 0.

It sounds a lot like Trick Shot from what we can see of it - not that likely to proc and with major penalties and/or restrictions. I'd guess at 0 and it's intended to be a Punisher and Bomber fix as well. But only if it's a title because lol punishers and bombers won't take a mod...

It'll make TIE Shuttles choose between MkII Engines and Lightened Frame. Deathrain with Accuracy Corrector, Cluster Missiles and some bombs might take Lightened Frame over LRS or GC.

Edited by WWHSD

It's too bad this is tie only. A lot of ships from all 3 factions could use this upgrade. Would be awesome on a firespray.

I'm holding out hope for it to fit on the Tie/SF, but obviously not if it's a title. My Tomax build will love it though.

I doubt it'll be a title, because the Striker pack already includes one (adaptive ailerons). More likely it's a modification.

I'm holding out hope for it to fit on the Tie/SF, but obviously not if it's a title. My Tomax build will love it though.

I doubt it'll be a title, because the Striker pack already includes one (adaptive ailerons). More likely it's a modification.

I doubt it, but I hope it is still. If it's a mod the only places it'll see use are the Striker and the /sf, and the Punisher, in desperate need of a boost, will keep right on being way too expensive.

If lightening the frame of a spaceship is not a modification, let's switch off the lights and close the place....

(yeah, i know gameplay is over fluff, but still...)

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Edited by Malasombra

If lightening the frame of a spaceship is not a modification, let's switch off the lights and close the place....

(yeah, i know gameplay is over fluff, but still...)

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As opposed to Adaptive Ailerons and Pivot Wings and turning the missile bay into a crew pod (TIE Shuttle) and stripping out most of the guns and putting in better engines (/x7), or adding extra customisation capacity (Royal Guard TIE) etc etc etc. Pretty much every generic title in the game (as opposed to the unique ones identifying specific ships) is a modification of the ship of some sort, rather than anything else. I think A Wing Test Pilot is the only one that's not, and that's not the title of the ship either, it's the title of the PILOT.

Your objection would carry a lot more weight if there hadn't been a whole bunch of previous generic titles that represented ship mods in the fluff...

Yep, good points, thespaceinvader... as usual :lol:

But the "TIE only" makes me think it's too generic for a title. It'll work well with the punisher and bombers (allowing GC and LRS), and it'll be bad for the striker and the SF.

I bet on modification, though.

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Edited by Malasombra

I think you're right - it'll be a mod, and if so, I doubt it will allow further mods to be installed.

Which means that it will suck the big one for Punishers and Bombers.

And it will be OK for Strikers and /sfs as long as it's not too expensive.

It will have a place for TIE shuttles if you prefer green dice to green movements (replacing TIE mk2 engine)

As the punisher can take FCS for dice modding you can ditch GC or LRS for a little increased survability, though it's not optimal.

Also, it's also a possibility that the text at the bottom doesn't allow to modifiy the green dice...

It will have a place for TIE shuttles if you prefer green dice to green movements (replacing TIE mk2 engine)

As the punisher can take FCS for dice modding you can ditch GC or LRS for a little increased survability, though it's not optimal.

Also, it's also a possibility that the text at the bottom doesn't allow to modifiy the green dice...

FCS doesn't let punishers mod dice, FCS lets them shoot at all.

It's too bad this is tie only. A lot of ships from all 3 factions could use this upgrade. Would be awesome on a firespray.

Maybe a free Firespray upgrade that lets you equip one "TIE Only modification"? Getting all green banks or getting an extra green die against a lot of attacks would be great on a Firespray.

im thinking it increases your ag by 1 but decreases your hull by 1 as well

im thinking it increases your ag by 1 but decreases your hull by 1 as well

That doesn't really fit the text we have seen.