SAAB

By JonB2, in X-Wing Squad Lists

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Support Attack Attack Block
Played around with a support shuttle recently and enjoyed it (if not the ord pieces it was with at the time) so I put this together.

Scimitar Squadron Pilot (16)
Systems Officer (2)
Fleet Officer (3)
Twin Ion Engine Mk. II (1)
TIE Shuttle (0)
"Whisper" (32)
Veteran Instincts (1)
Intelligence Agent (1)
Advanced Cloaking Device (4)
"Omega Leader" (21)
Juke (2)
Comm Relay (3)
"Wampa" (14)
Total: 100
*** Updated Academy to Wampa
My biggest uncertainty here is Whisper. I like OL, the Academy / Wampa, and the shuttle (though I could swap OL out for a cheap ace like Howlrunner). That just leaves a big damage dealer to deal with fat lists and I kinda settled on Whisper in part just to try out the phantom. Not sure I need the 2 point bid or if I'd be better off with something like FCS.
I've got 38 points to play with for the "heavy hitter" squad slot & any initiative bid and I'm open for any suggestions to try out. I mostly have just IMP expansions right now (except the Raider) with a YV-666 I just got for the cards, but if I don't own it yet it's still good to see what I might want to save up for next.
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The build looks fun, make room for Wampa instead of the academy IMO!

Offtopic - but i couldn't resist the SAAB reference...

Q: Why do they put sidewalks beside most streets and highways?

A: So Saab owners have a safe place to walk home.

Q: What's the difference between a Saab and a Porcupine?

A: When it comes to a Saab, the prick is on the inside.

For more: http://www.jokes4us.com/miscellaneousjokes/corporatejokes/saabjokes.html

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Hmm, I do have the left over 2 point bid I could upgrade the academy to Wampa. Might also give Chaser a try since there are extra Focus tokens going around.

And I admit

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And I thought SAAB means A-wing/A-wing/B-wing and something new with S

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I'm worried the S(upport) will be lost on at least "Whisper", who won't be able to stay at range consistently.

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Does whisper need it every turn, or would catching it just "most" turns be enough? I do have some small advantage in being able to reposition with decloak first, then move the Support and do it's actions, then move with Whisper. So the support could "catch up" for a brief moment to pass off what it needs to.

And it's not like OL can't make good use of it if I can't get to Whisper. That does make upgrading the Academy to Wampa more interesting though. 3 ships then that can all make effective use of the support so it can go hug whoever is nearby. I'd lose the initiative bid, but the Intel Agent could still help with that sort of issue.

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Does whisper need it every turn, or would catching it just "most" turns be enough? I do have some small advantage in being able to reposition with decloak first, then move the Support and do it's actions, then move with Whisper. So the support could "catch up" for a brief moment to pass off what it needs to.

And it's not like OL can't make good use of it if I can't get to Whisper. That does make upgrading the Academy to Wampa more interesting though. 3 ships then that can all make effective use of the support so it can go hug whoever is nearby. I'd lose the initiative bid, but the Intel Agent could still help with that sort of issue.

Yeah, I like the use of PS and the decloak.

OL would love it because she doesn't have to focus. She'd probably like Systems Officer more, though, so she can switch targets and always have evade or repositioning. In fact, Whisper would be grateful for Fleet as well because she's already got plenty of ways to get focus. Agent Kallus can even make the action obsolete for Whisper during rounds she can shoot.

What are your thoughts on System Officer and Twin?

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And I admit

may have had an influence here...

That tribute was the first thing I though of when I read the thread title.

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Does whisper need it every turn, or would catching it just "most" turns be enough? I do have some small advantage in being able to reposition with decloak first, then move the Support and do it's actions, then move with Whisper. So the support could "catch up" for a brief moment to pass off what it needs to.

And it's not like OL can't make good use of it if I can't get to Whisper. That does make upgrading the Academy to Wampa more interesting though. 3 ships then that can all make effective use of the support so it can go hug whoever is nearby. I'd lose the initiative bid, but the Intel Agent could still help with that sort of issue.

Yeah, I like the use of PS and the decloak.

OL would love it because she doesn't have to focus. She'd probably like Systems Officer more, though, so she can switch targets and always have evade or repositioning. In fact, Whisper would be grateful for Fleet as well because she's already got plenty of ways to get focus. Agent Kallus can even make the action obsolete for Whisper during rounds she can shoot.

What are your thoughts on System Officer and Twin?

I've already got System and Fleet and Twin on the support ship.
Whisper and Wampa don't get TL native so System is good. I'm liking the idea of Wampa with TL to help trigger his ability, and OL loves a free TL like you said, and 4-5 Reds is always better with a TL than without.
Fleet gives a token, not a free action so it works when the friend is stressed or you can double-stack Focus so Whisper could have more tokens you'd have to chew through to get her, of free up for a Barrel Roll to arc dodge and still have Focus. It's actually conceivable for Whisper to finish her turn cloaked with 2 focus and an evade.
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Being able to free up the system slot on Whisper is nice and I wouldn't waste it. Since you don't have Palp to help keep Whisper alive I think I'd try to slap on Sensor Jammer. Even FCS isn't a terrible idea if you can't find the points because that bomber might go up in smoke quickly.

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I was contemplating Sensor Jammer, but about the only way I see to make it fit without losing a whole ship is to downgrade Omega Leader into a low-budget ace from the likes of Howlrunner / Backstabber / Mauler.

I'm on the fence between Acad -to> Wampa or FCS on Whisper. Probably give both a shot, time permitting. Got a game tonight for the first run through :)

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