Hi guys,

i want to run old taroch and fen with title, at and mindlink. What should the third ship be?

I would be glad if it had white hard 1s so im thinking guri whos ability is of the chart with mindlink. If I go for her she can either have SJ with seems strong overall or FCS for better action economy and a bit for ps 9 with Fenn.

what else would fit?

Manaroo.

Manaroo or Palob

Bit Guri could also work

Manaroo has additional synergy with mindlink, since when she passes her focus tokens she gets one back from mindlink. Very easy to have five focus tokens across three ships with that build.

Manaroo.

The baseline setup for this is:

Manaroo w/ Mindlink, Unhinged Astromech, K4 Security Droid, and Feedback Array

Usually Fenn Rau and Old Terry sport the same setup with Mindlink, Autothrusters and Title. You have somewhere around 4-5 pts left over to use after that on what you want, but I'd make sure you have an initiative bid of some kind.

Ideally you want to have Manaroo skirting the edge of the battle just enough to grab target locks with K4 and then focus or barrel roll if necessary. This allows Fenn Rau and Old Terry to free up their action to use either barrel roll or boost for better positioning. Start of combat phase, Manaroo passes her focus and target lock to whoever needs it and because those ships received a focus token from Manaroo, Mindlink kicks in again for Manaroo giving her a focus again.

For those two ships, Manaroo. She's the support ship who can keep out of the way of the fight while your Fang Fighters tear it up at close range, something like Palob has to get too close to the fight to be effective.

yeah, I know. but I would just like some more damage output on the third ship. menaroo is nice and all, but I dont really love her. maybe If I slab a torp on her or what ever. What about a scout with punishing 1 title? thats 100 straight up. a 3red primary turret with 9hp behind 2green and a killer dial.

You won't need extra damage out of Manaroo, her job is to survive and feed action economy to the two fangs. Fenn hitting a tokenless ship thanks to Old Terry's ability is enough offense for any list.

I did fine with Ketsu VI, and two generics mindlinkeded. So maybe a shadow caster as a anvil or flanker.

I did fine with Ketsu VI, and two generics mindlinkeded. So maybe a shadow caster as a anvil or flanker.

There's a guy in Poland very successfully running Asajj/Fenn/Manaroo with Asajj running very light (just Latts & Mindlink), and I've had good success with a very similar list that replaces Asajj with Boba Fett.

Those are very different list's to the OP's double-Fangs he's already got, though. If he's locked onto Fenn & Teroch then there's no money left for a Caster to throw in!

I did fine with Ketsu VI, and two generics mindlinkeded. So maybe a shadow caster as a anvil or flanker.

Can concur, this is a very solid list, especially if you mindlink Ketsu as well. That way she can run headlong into things, tractor them off her, and still shoot at them with full mods via Dengar or K4.

I've been running it with Serissu though instead of one of the fangs. The ion cannon makes the bump>tractor bit a lot more controllable..

I like Bossk with Dengar Crew and Attanni Mindlink. That's 39 points for a scary bit of damage. Bossk only has 2 actions: Focus and Target Lock. Dengar makes the Target Lock redundant, so you just Focus with Bossk every turn, allowing your Fang fighters to use their actions for target lock or mobility.

I thought you were asking about the third slot, but you already figured out what you want to put there.

The first two ships in this list are always Fenn and Manaroo.

I thought you were asking about the third slot, but you already figured out what you want to put there.

The first two ships in this list are always Fenn and Manaroo.

^ Honestly this ^

Beyond that it's do you want: Linked Old Terry or Palob for toke stripping? Linked Kavil for a more damaging turret whether it's Autoblaster or TLT? Linked Asajj for a slippery large ship w/ control capabilities? Party Bus for just a big ship to push through damage even though not linked with Fenn and Manaroo?

yeah, I know. but I would just like some more damage output on the third ship. menaroo is nice and all, but I dont really love her. maybe If I slab a torp on her or what ever. What about a scout with punishing 1 title? thats 100 straight up. a 3red primary turret with 9hp behind 2green and a killer dial.

I'm with you on this. I don't like having a support ship that takes up a third of my list with little to no offense. I've been running this version of mindlink Manaroo/Fenn/OT since wave 9 came out:

Fenn: Mindlink, title, AT

OT: Mindlink, title, AT

Manaroo: Mindlink, K4, Unhinged, Black Market Slicer Tools, Plamsa Torp, Chips

98 Points.

I won a 14 person tournament with this list. I didn't get to use the Torpedo every match because Fenn and OT put out a ton of damage in this list, but when I did shoot it the matches were close and the four dice torpedo attack helped immensely. So basically, if I am already winning I don't necessarily need the torp but it makes a big difference in the close matches.

I thought you were asking about the third slot, but you already figured out what you want to put there.

The first two ships in this list are always Fenn and Manaroo.

^ Honestly this ^

Beyond that it's do you want: Linked Old Terry or Palob for toke stripping? Linked Kavil for a more damaging turret whether it's Autoblaster or TLT? Linked Asajj for a slippery large ship w/ control capabilities? Party Bus for just a big ship to push through damage even though not linked with Fenn and Manaroo?

I've been contemplating a cheap Palob as the third ship so Manaroo can take the title and function as a beater. She moves higher up on the enemy agro list and loses the ability to pass out all those free target locks, but your list has more damage output and it might be worth it to have 3 threats.

Three or four dice from Manaroo with 4-L0M is dangerous, especially if Palob already stole one of your candies. /shrug

TLT doesnt make too much sense on Palob as it doesn't overlap with his 1-2 pilot ability.

TLT doesnt make too much sense on Palob as it doesn't overlap with his 1-2 pilot ability.

It makes perfect sense. Most Palob builds use TLT. There's no HWK who wants to be at R1. They're just too fragile. Palob's ability is just a nice little consolation prize if an enemy with superior mobility should happen to end up there.

The good news is that you have Fenn Rau to deter such aggressive behavior and Manaroo to block the path.

TLT doesnt make too much sense on Palob as it doesn't overlap with his 1-2 pilot ability.

The dial on the HWK is so atrocious that the TLT range is work it to make Palob viable in contributing damage to your squad. What you are actually doing to the opponent is forcing them to make a choice of, stay at range 3 and continue to get shot by the TLTs or try to zip into range 1 where Palob can steal your token.

As CBMarkham said, if you want to zip into range 1 to take out Palob, Fenn Rau or Manaroo should be near enough to make you pay for it.

There's a guy in Poland very successfully running Asajj/Fenn/Manaroo with Asajj running very light (just Latts & Mindlink), and I've had good success with a very similar list that replaces Asajj with Boba Fett.

Those are very different list's to the OP's double-Fangs he's already got, though. If he's locked onto Fenn & Teroch then there's no money left for a Caster to throw in!

Who is the guy? I have to give him my personal thanks. I took his Mindlink list to the Leiden Regionals in Holland and ended up winning the event. The list is a masterpiece.

My only loss was to a Palob/Fen/Manaroo list. His Fen being able to move after mine and Palob's stealing was hard to overcome. Otherwise, super solid. I'll be going back to trying to make Kath Scarlet work with mindlink now.

TLT doesnt make too much sense on Palob as it doesn't overlap with his 1-2 pilot ability.

It makes perfect sense. Most Palob builds use TLT

Please let me point, that most Palob's builds aren't successful on high competitive level.

The only one Palob's bulid that made a cut to second day (but not to the top) during last Worlds was Jesper Hills Autoblaster Palob. And I think it was only thanks to skill of the player.

There's a guy in Poland very successfully running Asajj/Fenn/Manaroo with Asajj running very light (just Latts & Mindlink), and I've had good success with a very similar list that replaces Asajj with Boba Fett.

Those are very different list's to the OP's double-Fangs he's already got, though. If he's locked onto Fenn & Teroch then there's no money left for a Caster to throw in!

Who is the guy? I have to give him my personal thanks. I took his Mindlink list to the Leiden Regionals in Holland and ended up winning the event. The list is a masterpiece.

My only loss was to a Palob/Fen/Manaroo list. His Fen being able to move after mine and Palob's stealing was hard to overcome. Otherwise, super solid. I'll be going back to trying to make Kath Scarlet work with mindlink now.

He's called Maciej Paraszczak (try typing that one three times fast!) and he'll be pleased to hear you did well with it - he took it to his own regional at the weekend and lost in the Top 8 due to sixteen blank green dice in a row.

It's certainly a little powerhouse, far FAR better than it looks on paper.

TLT doesnt make too much sense on Palob as it doesn't overlap with his 1-2 pilot ability.

It makes perfect sense. Most Palob builds use TLT

Please let me point, that most Palob's builds aren't successful on high competitive level.

The only one Palob's bulid that made a cut to second day (but not to the top) during last Worlds was Jesper Hills Autoblaster Palob. And I think it was only thanks to skill of the player.

Jesper is very good, of course, but his Palob build is extremely good. he also wont mind me saying it also isn't his build. it was first run by a guy in (i think) the Polish Open, alongside Guri and Manaroo. I ran it alongside Kavil and Manaroo in the UK Nats, and Jesper has been running it in the months since. all of us concur that it is the best Palob build in a mindlink list.

its far better on Palob than a TLT because it synergises with his ability far more effectively, and means he just will not die. it also threatens aces, who usually brutalise Palob, and even makes defenders think twice.

in a mindlink list Palob is not there to survive the game, he is there to annoy your opponent so much that he has to kill him first, and AutoCloak Palob is amazing at being annoying and surviving, while being cheap enough to allow lots of other toys in the list.

There's a guy in Poland very successfully running Asajj/Fenn/Manaroo with Asajj running very light (just Latts & Mindlink), and I've had good success with a very similar list that replaces Asajj with Boba Fett.

Those are very different list's to the OP's double-Fangs he's already got, though. If he's locked onto Fenn & Teroch then there's no money left for a Caster to throw in!

Who is the guy? I have to give him my personal thanks. I took his Mindlink list to the Leiden Regionals in Holland and ended up winning the event. The list is a masterpiece.

My only loss was to a Palob/Fen/Manaroo list. His Fen being able to move after mine and Palob's stealing was hard to overcome. Otherwise, super solid. I'll be going back to trying to make Kath Scarlet work with mindlink now.

Thanks for the kind words.

The list happens to be my doing. I called it Parattanni.

I also took it to the Regionals in Poland last week. I finished 3rd after Swiss, made a Cut but I lost in 1/4 final.

Happy to see better players enjoying it

Congratulations mate!

It's also not like there's only one source for that Palob, it cropped up independently in at least two other playgroups I'm aware of.