Soontir Fel (35)

Royal Guard TIE/Push The Limit/Autothrusters/Stealth Device

The Inquisitor (32)

TIE-V1/Veteran Instincts/Ion Pulse Missle/Autothrusters

Epsilon Squadron Pilot x2 (30)

Idea here is to fly the 2 Epsilon Pilots in front of Inquisitor as long as possible with Soontir starting on other side of board to bait opponent squad into splitting up, relying on his maneuverability to keep him at range 3. Meanwhile the gang systematically picks off the other guys.

This list might take the piss, but we'll see how it works out. ***updated to reflect current list***

DISCLAIMER list is built based on cards/models I own and not subject to cards/models I don't own thank you.

The Inquisitor build doesn't make sense. With the title, you're always going to take a target lock. Meaning you should always have a TL to spend, meaning you'll never use Predator to reroll dice (because you can only re-roll dice once). Additionally, he really wants autothrusters, especially considering how well they work with his pilot ability.

Push the Limit is generally the way to go, as it means you can take the TL & reposition/focus... Since you always want to TL.

After that... The two FOs don't really do enough for their cost. Empire has a ton of great options that will last longer/hurt more for the same approx. cost (Omega Leader w/ Stealth Device, Palp-Shuttle, etc...).

EDIT: Oh, and I think Proton Rockets are a much better choice on the Inquisitor, as a 5 dice, TL & focused attack is amazing. ... But that only works if you take PtL. Without PtL, I wouldn't take any ordinance, the cost of the upgrade isn't really worth carrying around, since you won't mod it (because you always want to TL with the Inquisitor, even if you already have a lock from the last round of combat).

The Inquisitor build doesn't make sense. With the title, you're always going to take a target lock. Meaning you should always have a TL to spend, meaning you'll never use Predator to reroll dice (because you can only re-roll dice once). Additionally, he really wants autothrusters, especially considering how well they work with his pilot ability.

After that... The two FOs don't really do enough for their cost. Empire has a ton of great options that will last longer/hurt more for the same cost (Omega Leader w/ Stealth Device, Palp-Shuttle, etc...).

Does it ever occur to anyone that I might be building lists based on the cards and models that I actually own? You do make a good point about Predator though, I'll give you that.

Back when the TIE/fo first came out, this type of list saw some table time. In fact, I recall one player from Australia that did really well (back then there was no inquisitor, so he had Darth Vader in that slot).

Ultimately, I think its time is passed. The TIE/fo's just don't offer enough punch for their cost to be worth it in the current meta. The only /fo's that are really worth considering are Omega Leader and Zeta Leader.

However, I think if you really want to make it work, there are two ways to go: either use the epsilons as TL caddies for Vessery, or drop them for the more punchy crackshot carrying black squadron pilots and use them as backup for a proton rocketing Inquisitor.

1st List:

Vessery w/ X-7 & crackshot = 34

"standard" Fel = 35

2 epsilons = 15 x 2

99

2nd List:

Inquisitor w/ push the limit, title, autothrusters & proton rockets = 34

"standard" Fel = 35

2 black squadrons w/ crackshot = 15 x 2

99

The Inquisitor build doesn't make sense. With the title, you're always going to take a target lock. Meaning you should always have a TL to spend, meaning you'll never use Predator to reroll dice (because you can only re-roll dice once). Additionally, he really wants autothrusters, especially considering how well they work with his pilot ability.

After that... The two FOs don't really do enough for their cost. Empire has a ton of great options that will last longer/hurt more for the same cost (Omega Leader w/ Stealth Device, Palp-Shuttle, etc...).

Does it ever occur to anyone that I might be building lists based on the cards and models that I actually own? You do make a good point about Predator though, I'll give you that.

It would likely occur to folks more if you made clear what your building restrictions were, prior to coming to a forum populated by players who otherwise consider "everything is on the table" in terms of open ended list building.

Not to sound rude, but that is your error, and not mine. Under the provided data, my conclusions are still sound.

Does it ever occur to anyone that I might be building lists based on the cards and models that I actually own?

Not if it isn't spelled out in the OP, unfortunately. People spending enough time on the forums to be likely to answer a post are also likely to have a lot of time and money invested into the game, meaning they have most if not all options to work with. Failing that, again without statements to the contrary, the forums are also likely to guess you're looking for the "best build" for the ships in question, which may or may not involve what you happen to currently own.

The Inquisitor build doesn't make sense. With the title, you're always going to take a target lock. Meaning you should always have a TL to spend, meaning you'll never use Predator to reroll dice (because you can only re-roll dice once). Additionally, he really wants autothrusters, especially considering how well they work with his pilot ability.

After that... The two FOs don't really do enough for their cost. Empire has a ton of great options that will last longer/hurt more for the same cost (Omega Leader w/ Stealth Device, Palp-Shuttle, etc...).

Does it ever occur to anyone that I might be building lists based on the cards and models that I actually own? You do make a good point about Predator though, I'll give you that.

It would likely occur to folks more if you made clear what your building restrictions were, prior to coming to a forum populated by players who otherwise consider "everything is on the table" in terms of open ended list building.

Not to sound rude, but that is your error, and not mine. Under the provided data, my conclusions are still sound.

Cool story bro.

The Inquisitor build doesn't make sense. With the title, you're always going to take a target lock. Meaning you should always have a TL to spend, meaning you'll never use Predator to reroll dice (because you can only re-roll dice once). Additionally, he really wants autothrusters, especially considering how well they work with his pilot ability.

After that... The two FOs don't really do enough for their cost. Empire has a ton of great options that will last longer/hurt more for the same cost (Omega Leader w/ Stealth Device, Palp-Shuttle, etc...).

Does it ever occur to anyone that I might be building lists based on the cards and models that I actually own? You do make a good point about Predator though, I'll give you that.

It would likely occur to folks more if you made clear what your building restrictions were, prior to coming to a forum populated by players who otherwise consider "everything is on the table" in terms of open ended list building.

Not to sound rude, but that is your error, and not mine. Under the provided data, my conclusions are still sound.

Cool story bro.

I'm not sure that's a warranted response. You requested input, received it, complained about it, got an explanation relevant to your complaint... And then are rude to someone actively attempting to assist you?

The Inquisitor build doesn't make sense. With the title, you're always going to take a target lock. Meaning you should always have a TL to spend, meaning you'll never use Predator to reroll dice (because you can only re-roll dice once). Additionally, he really wants autothrusters, especially considering how well they work with his pilot ability.

After that... The two FOs don't really do enough for their cost. Empire has a ton of great options that will last longer/hurt more for the same cost (Omega Leader w/ Stealth Device, Palp-Shuttle, etc...).

Does it ever occur to anyone that I might be building lists based on the cards and models that I actually own? You do make a good point about Predator though, I'll give you that.

It would likely occur to folks more if you made clear what your building restrictions were, prior to coming to a forum populated by players who otherwise consider "everything is on the table" in terms of open ended list building.

Not to sound rude, but that is your error, and not mine. Under the provided data, my conclusions are still sound.

Cool story bro.

I'm not sure that's a warranted response. You requested input, received it, complained about it, got an explanation relevant to your complaint... And then are rude to someone actively attempting to assist you?

Come on fellas, play nice! we push plastic ships around on a mat for crying out loud lol. OP, when you note that your list is based on things you own, that could mean anything! if that bugs you then list what expansions you own. everybody else, when people respond rudely, dont respond back! then our wonderful forum community ends up with threads like this smh. there is enough strife in the world, this need not be an additional place for that! now go play pew pew!

Epsilons are cool ships. I use one in my vessery/whisper list and I love it for a few reasons:

1) You can fly them uber aggressively and get right in the face of your opponent. If your opponent fires at them instead of your more expensive ships, that is a bonus. Otherwise, they get range 1 shots.

2) They are PS1 with an awesome dial. Superb blockers which you will need when facing Rey, x7 Defenders, etc. You dont want to block with your hitters if you dont have too. If you face a swarm, which is mostly PS4 nowadays, one Eps can block and bump the entire swarm causing them to lose their action.

Most people only see offensive output, but that is not the entire story with the Eps. It's a pest and **** fine one. Blocking is one of the most sever things you can do to a ship in this game as they lose actions and have their arc pointed in the wrong direction.

The option to go two blackcracks is also a good suggestion, if you have crack shot that is.

I fly a Vessery tractor beam xD, x7 Maarek, and two TIE's. It is a good list and those TIE's pay for themselves as people take shots at them instead of Vessery when they have two staring them down at range 1.

The Inquisitor build doesn't make sense. With the title, you're always going to take a target lock. Meaning you should always have a TL to spend, meaning you'll never use Predator to reroll dice (because you can only re-roll dice once). Additionally, he really wants autothrusters, especially considering how well they work with his pilot ability.

After that... The two FOs don't really do enough for their cost. Empire has a ton of great options that will last longer/hurt more for the same cost (Omega Leader w/ Stealth Device, Palp-Shuttle, etc...).

Does it ever occur to anyone that I might be building lists based on the cards and models that I actually own? You do make a good point about Predator though, I'll give you that.

It would likely occur to folks more if you made clear what your building restrictions were, prior to coming to a forum populated by players who otherwise consider "everything is on the table" in terms of open ended list building.

Not to sound rude, but that is your error, and not mine. Under the provided data, my conclusions are still sound.

Cool story bro.

He put that to you politely mate, no need to be a twit in response.

RoV

The Inquisitor build doesn't make sense. With the title, you're always going to take a target lock. Meaning you should always have a TL to spend, meaning you'll never use Predator to reroll dice (because you can only re-roll dice once). Additionally, he really wants autothrusters, especially considering how well they work with his pilot ability.

After that... The two FOs don't really do enough for their cost. Empire has a ton of great options that will last longer/hurt more for the same cost (Omega Leader w/ Stealth Device, Palp-Shuttle, etc...).

Does it ever occur to anyone that I might be building lists based on the cards and models that I actually own? You do make a good point about Predator though, I'll give you that.

It would likely occur to folks more if you made clear what your building restrictions were, prior to coming to a forum populated by players who otherwise consider "everything is on the table" in terms of open ended list building.

Not to sound rude, but that is your error, and not mine. Under the provided data, my conclusions are still sound.

Cool story bro.

He put that to you politely mate, no need to be a twit in response.

RoV

That's not even remotely polite. So either you just don't know or you're being a twit...

:/

This isn't the politeness police subforum, so let's please focus on the list.

OP, if you could please provide what ships & cards you have access to, there are more than a few folks here willing to help you out.

Epsilons are cool ships. I use one in my vessery/whisper list and I love it for a few reasons:

1) You can fly them uber aggressively and get right in the face of your opponent. If your opponent fires at them instead of your more expensive ships, that is a bonus. Otherwise, they get range 1 shots.

2) They are PS1 with an awesome dial. Superb blockers which you will need when facing Rey, x7 Defenders, etc. You dont want to block with your hitters if you dont have too. If you face a swarm, which is mostly PS4 nowadays, one Eps can block and bump the entire swarm causing them to lose their action.

Most people only see offensive output, but that is not the entire story with the Eps. It's a pest and **** fine one. Blocking is one of the most sever things you can do to a ship in this game as they lose actions and have their arc pointed in the wrong direction.

The option to go two blackcracks is also a good suggestion, if you have crack shot that is.

I fly a Vessery tractor beam xD, x7 Maarek, and two TIE's. It is a good list and those TIE's pay for themselves as people take shots at them instead of Vessery when they have two staring them down at range 1.

Goes double with some of the Tech slots either just released or about to be. A TIE/fo with Primed Thrusters is 16 points. Being able to pull a segnor's loop and still barrel roll without bothering to clear the stress gives amazing flexibility over a couple of turns.

The Inquisitor build doesn't make sense. With the title, you're always going to take a target lock. Meaning you should always have a TL to spend, meaning you'll never use Predator to reroll dice (because you can only re-roll dice once). Additionally, he really wants autothrusters, especially considering how well they work with his pilot ability.

After that... The two FOs don't really do enough for their cost. Empire has a ton of great options that will last longer/hurt more for the same cost (Omega Leader w/ Stealth Device, Palp-Shuttle, etc...).

Does it ever occur to anyone that I might be building lists based on the cards and models that I actually own? You do make a good point about Predator though, I'll give you that.

It would likely occur to folks more if you made clear what your building restrictions were, prior to coming to a forum populated by players who otherwise consider "everything is on the table" in terms of open ended list building.

Not to sound rude, but that is your error, and not mine. Under the provided data, my conclusions are still sound.

Cool story bro.

He put that to you politely mate, no need to be a twit in response.

RoV

That's not even remotely polite. So either you just don't know or you're being a twit...

:/

Polite must be different where you live

RoV

The Inquisitor build doesn't make sense. With the title, you're always going to take a target lock. Meaning you should always have a TL to spend, meaning you'll never use Predator to reroll dice (because you can only re-roll dice once). Additionally, he really wants autothrusters, especially considering how well they work with his pilot ability.

After that... The two FOs don't really do enough for their cost. Empire has a ton of great options that will last longer/hurt more for the same cost (Omega Leader w/ Stealth Device, Palp-Shuttle, etc...).

Does it ever occur to anyone that I might be building lists based on the cards and models that I actually own? You do make a good point about Predator though, I'll give you that.

Wow man! You clearly haven't given a list of what you own, how is anyone supposed to know. Don't ask for help and then be rude to someone trying to help you.