There were 2 Corran Horn/Miranda Doni lists that did well, though I think we've seen some variation of them before?

Took second at a 40 person store champion ship with a variation of that list.

Mindlink seemed to me to be the breakout hit of Worlds 2016. It had been slowly emerging for the past wave or so, and now there are enough tools that it really came into its own.

Mindlink seemed to me to be the breakout hit of Worlds 2016. It had been slowly emerging for the past wave or so, and now there are enough tools that it really came into its own.

I've been tinkering with Mindlink since wave 8 came out. The biggest draw back is the maneuvering options. The protectorate fighter solves this problem. You joust with your whole list, using mindlink to give everyone focus and hopefully getting target locks on everyone as well. Afterwards you have the option of disengaging with the 5 straight + boost, turning back in with a hard turn + boost or barrel roll, or a combination of one of those two with one ship pulling a T-roll or k-turn. They have enough green on the dial to clear stress if necessary and having access to boost and barrel roll helps them get pointed where they need to be.

Before Fangs, Scum didn't have the tools to pull it off. The Starvipers are too expensive and miss the green hard turns. The Scyks don't have boost to be able to disengage. Khiraxz fighters don't have any repositioning. G1-As have too much red on the dial. Palob works as a mindlink Focus mule because he can take a turret and doesn't care about his front arc so he is free to green move all game but the other HWKs not so much; only Dace has a EPT slot and he has to have a list built around him just to be decent at a casual level.

I haven't tried the Shadowcaster with mindlink yet but I imagine it could pay off given the excellent dial; the trouble is getting other useful ships in the list with it for the points.

There was a Mangler Syck. Cmon, thats gotta be exciting right?

It's certainly cemented fat K-wings as an anti-ace tool. Pairing one with Corran to make the most of ionisations was pretty clever, but there's other tricks out there, too.

...Still, even that pairing boils down to double-regen. We've seen that one before.

I'm sad we didn't see any TIE Bombers (as far as I know). Especially Deathfire or Tomax Bren.

I'm sad we didn't see any TIE Bombers (as far as I know). Especially Deathfire or Tomax Bren.

.. Okay. Normal Bombers are garbage, like T3 if not T-useless.

... But, are those two any good? Are they even T2?? I'm quite sure they aren't T1. But maybe T1.5?

It's certainly cemented fat K-wings as an anti-ace tool. Pairing one with Corran to make the most of ionisations was pretty clever, but there's other tricks out there, too.

...Still, even that pairing boils down to double-regen. We've seen that one before.

Not necessarily. Saw an excellently flown list at a tournament yesterday: Bomb-Loaded K-wing with Sabine, together with Fat Rey with Outmaneuver+Finn. No regen! But good control from the slamming & sabine-boosted bombs thrown, together with serious damage from Rey.

The reason I personally at least didn't end up with anything particularly creative, is that the "creative" lists I had put together were altered/nerfed fundamentally by the FAQs released only weeks before Worlds. When you are putting something together that is really new, it takes a little time and practice to make it work and you just can't do that in only a couple weeks.

On the other hand, there are a large number of interesting and creative lists that can bubble up from the players with the release of HotR. There are enough new concepts in that box, or at least new methods for those concepts (more attacks during activation, non-standard positioning, token denial) that we should see a quite a few cool archetypes develop in the time between now and next May.

I thought I had a shot at being the guy with the oddball list, I brought Old Teroch and five z-95s. One was Kaato with crack shot and thread tracers, which is incredible value for one point if it gives you four to six target locks. I threw in some slicer tools and I should have been good to go. Zees are particularly well suited to soaking a four hit torpedo and limping out with one health. Old Teroch can solo an x7 defender in most cases, and there are enough bodies for action denial. Sadly, the deadeye change brought back a lot of things that eat swarms alive, and I think I'm happy I made it out 3-3.

The Bossk Dengar alpha strike list was pretty brutal. That was Aaron Bonar's list

Ouch Jim. Seriously?

I'm sad we didn't see any TIE Bombers (as far as I know). Especially Deathfire or Tomax Bren.

My round three opponent had a Countess Vessery Tomax list.

I'm sad we didn't see any TIE Bombers (as far as I know). Especially Deathfire or Tomax Bren.

My round three opponent had a Countess Vessery Tomax list.

I played against a Deathfire in round 4 (I could be off on the round).

It never shot. Or let Vessery get a lock.

The Bossk Dengar alpha strike list was pretty brutal. That was Aaron Bonar's list

Ouch Jim. Seriously?

I've played against a wide array of Big Ship/Bossk lists recently (usually Shadowcasters), but not Dengar. I've been thinking about it, especially the double-PS9 option with VI and Dengar. I honestly think it has a stronger alpha strike than Uboats does, but it's PS9. Aside from swarms, which seem pretty well countered by other things, what do you all see are the main problems of the list? When I've played against similar lists, I got blown out a few times before I sort of figured it out, but it's always a close game.

I haven't tried the Shadowcaster with mindlink yet but I imagine it could pay off given the excellent dial; the trouble is getting other useful ships in the list with it for the points.

Try Parattanni:

Asajj + Attanni Mindlink, Latts Razzi

Fenn Rau + Attanni Mindlink, Title, Autothrusters

Manaroo + Attanni Mindlink

Despite being light on upgrades, I find it more powerful than Mindlinked Fangaroo.

I haven't tried the Shadowcaster with mindlink yet but I imagine it could pay off given the excellent dial; the trouble is getting other useful ships in the list with it for the points.

I gave Ketsu and 2 Concord Aces with Mindlink a try yesterday. Seems pretty decent - the flexibility to k turn or boost or spin arc with Ketsu and still get focus, and to do white moves after getting stressed and still get focus as long as ONE of the ships can do a green that isn't blocked makes my normal Ketsu build (Title, Dengar, Engine, usually VI, but Mindlink now) a lot scarier as she usually can't modify any eyeballs, and it makes her a lot more likely to throw two tractor tokens on something, which murders many if not most targets.

The only real issue with it is only 3 ships at PS 3, 3, 7, which means you really, really need to be good at killboxing and/or bumping high PS multiple repositioners.

I'd not thought of using the R4-B11 droid on Dengar, but one of the streamed swiss games had it and it was ace. I gave it a go yesterday myself and having people re-roll 2/3 evades into all blanks was very Scummy,

Brought you again by Jeff Berling, breaking the game since wave 4 or so. ;-)

Fat Han, Dengaroo and now this Bossgar. That one I really did not see coming, but K4 makes it really easy to use.

I'd not thought of using the R4-B11 droid on Dengar, but one of the streamed swiss games had it and it was ace. I gave it a go yesterday myself and having people re-roll 2/3 evades into all blanks was very Scummy,

Brought you again by Jeff Berling, breaking the game since wave 4 or so. ;-)

Fat Han, Dengaroo and now this Bossgar. That one I really did not see coming, but K4 makes it really easy to use.

somebody knows the exact list?

I'd not thought of using the R4-B11 droid on Dengar, but one of the streamed swiss games had it and it was ace. I gave it a go yesterday myself and having people re-roll 2/3 evades into all blanks was very Scummy,

Brought you again by Jeff Berling, breaking the game since wave 4 or so. ;-)

Fat Han, Dengaroo and now this Bossgar. That one I really did not see coming, but K4 makes it really easy to use.

somebody knows the exact list?

Sure all list are in the worlds results topic. Name is Jeff Berling, should be easy enough to find:

• 6-2 / 885
• Flight 2: 4-2
• 100 points
• Dengar (58) + Lone wolf + title + K4 + R4-B11 + Glitterstim + countermeasures
• Bossk (42) + Predator + Zuckuss + 4-Lom + Greedo + Inertial Dampeners

Nathan Eide's list was great, for some reason it had never dawned on me that the Firespray could take LRS.

Im currently trialing this with Atanni Mindlink with Manaroo. It works quite well as you can pass the TL over for when the Firespray cant take it. Allows you to have potentially 2 focus, TL and Evade each turn making it able to survive!

Nathan Eide's list was great, for some reason it had never dawned on me that the Firespray could take LRS.

Im currently trialing this with Atanni Mindlink with Manaroo. It works quite well as you can pass the TL over for when the Firespray cant take it. Allows you to have potentially 2 focus, TL and Evade each turn making it able to survive!

Where do you get the evade from? IG-88 does not really fit and PTL ain't a thing when you used Mindlink. Experimental Interface? edit: Nah, ei does not work either as evade is on the card already and not gained via a upgrade card.

The list is Manaroo and Firespray. And the Firespray has Evade.

The Bossk Dengar alpha strike list was pretty brutal. That was Aaron Bonar's list

Ouch Jim. Seriously?

I've played against a wide array of Big Ship/Bossk lists recently (usually Shadowcasters), but not Dengar. I've been thinking about it, especially the double-PS9 option with VI and Dengar. I honestly think it has a stronger alpha strike than Uboats does, but it's PS9. Aside from swarms, which seem pretty well countered by other things, what do you all see are the main problems of the list? When I've played against similar lists, I got blown out a few times before I sort of figured it out, but it's always a close game.

It's just an Omaha joke. Aaron takes a list to world's (in this case a tweak on a list I used in league) and Aaron gets all the credit for it. See convoy, rebel.

And my list was a hack on a list Jonathon Renig won a regional with.

The list is Manaroo and Firespray. And the Firespray has Evade.

I was thinking 3 instead of 2 focus tokens, my bad.

Fat Han came back.

This was interesting.. I haven't watched any of the fat han games - was there some hithertoo unknown combo or tactic that he was using or was it just a case of a good player knowing his list well and playing it well/ the ship becoming more vialble in the current meta?