Luke, poor Luke...

By moodswing5537, in Star Wars: Armada

I am testing a Dodonna fleet that I am liking, but I come down to the same question I always do:

Is Luke an auto include in Dodonna lists?

I used to do it without even thinking, but I came to a startling revelation. I can take a GR-75 with Comms net FOR THE SAME PRICE! I mean, is there a reason to even take Luke anymore, outside of rebel aces?

Sure you could replace Luke with the GR-75.

Would need to see the rest of your list though- if you are lacking damage sources and already have 5 activations then its not exactly a great trade.

On the other hand, if you currently only have three activations, and damage sources everywher you look, the utility might help that damage be a little more reliable.

Luke has always been questionable to me, specifically it suffers from the Vader sindrome (must be something with the midiclorians in their blood, maybe?) in that you want to use his ability as long as possible, but having escort you can't really hide him in a cloud of x to do the bombing with impunity.

However, as soon as Biggs comes out officially, the 3 amigos combo (luke, wedge and biggs) will see much use in Rieekan lists IMO.

Luke isn't an auto include but his ability synergizes really well with Dodonna's. I personally like Luke second strongest bomber ability and only because Ryhmer shares his with others

Sure you could replace Luke with the GR-75.

Would need to see the rest of your list though- if you are lacking damage sources and already have 5 activations then its not exactly a great trade.

On the other hand, if you currently only have three activations, and damage sources everywher you look, the utility might help that damage be a little more reliable.

Sry, I meant to post the list, but in short its 5 activations with 2 mc30, 2 GR-75 and a cr90 b with sw7. had Luke, 4 yt-2400, and an HWK. It did well vs. a list with only TIE fighters, but I am thinking of going to all a wings only and adding the 6th activation in the GR-75.

Edited by moodswing5537

Drop Luke if you aren't going bomber heavy. Regular X-Wing can provide the Escort, and if you miss on the bomber attack with Luke it hurts a lot. Basically 7 points that aren't being utilized. On top of that, how many attacks would Luke get against ships? Sure the HWK can help, but I don't think he is doing much for your list since he will get picked off very quickly.

If you're running Dodonna and a CR90B, why SW-7's over Dodonna's Pride?

If you're running Dodonna and a CR90B, why SW-7's over Dodonna's Pride?

It would come down to flotillas and when do I get to alter my dice, before the scatter? If the scatter happens before I choose the crit effect, then it seems sw-7's are more effective. This is me thinking out loud. Shoot holes if you wish.

Sure you could replace Luke with the GR-75.

Would need to see the rest of your list though- if you are lacking damage sources and already have 5 activations then its not exactly a great trade.

On the other hand, if you currently only have three activations, and damage sources everywher you look, the utility might help that damage be a little more reliable.

Sry, I meant to post the list, but in short its 5 activations with 2 mc30, 2 GR-75 and a cr90 b with sw7. had Luke, 4 yt-2400, and an HWK. It did well vs. a list with only TIE fighters, but I am thinking of going to all a wings only and adding the 6th activation in the GR-75.

I would certainly suggest Rogue is a point sink when you have so many transports to give squadron activations. I would lean more to ships with bomber though with Dodonna. Perhaps XWings and Jan?

I had Luke shoot my MC30 once and did a hit+crit through the shields. Dodonna allowed him to choose from 4 cards selecting an extra damage as the crit effect. I was now on 1 hull and had to turn and run with an otherwise fresh 85 point ship for fear of being rammed by any ship I got close to.

Nasty combo.

I have been debating that myself. Currently I'm running Farlander instead for the dual Blacks and the rerolls. I find that Yavaris double tapping strips shields fast enough that the black rerolls just HAPPEN quite a lot.

Luke always has an "all or nothing" performance for me. He either drops about 3 Hit/Crits and wrecks something or goes out with a whimper to TIEs or generic Xwings.

Biggs is gonna help that a lot. The best Thunder Stasche in space will make for interesting Rebel combos.

Are you comparing luke to a gr75, or luke to awings and a gr75? Those arent the same cost or do the same thing.

You either need a ship or a squad.

I had Luke shoot my MC30 once and did a hit+crit through the shields. Dodonna allowed him to choose from 4 cards selecting an extra damage as the crit effect. I was now on 1 hull and had to turn and run with an otherwise fresh 85 point ship for fear of being rammed by any ship I got close to.

Nasty combo.

No adomnition to laugh at luke?

Are you comparing luke to a gr75, or luke to awings and a gr75? Those arent the same cost or do the same thing.

You either need a ship or a squad.

I was comparing Luke to having another activation. The a wing change was secondary to it, since I added a GR-75.

If you're running Dodonna and a CR90B, why SW-7's over Dodonna's Pride?

It would come down to flotillas and when do I get to alter my dice, before the scatter? If the scatter happens before I choose the crit effect, then it seems sw-7's are more effective. This is me thinking out loud. Shoot holes if you wish.

D Pride happens as a crit effect, so a flotilla could scatter your attack away, but you also have the option of not using the crit and trigger a normal one if you roll an Acc. I think D Pride is better if you are going with Dodonna because it can also hit big ships as well.

I had Luke shoot my MC30 once and did a hit+crit through the shields. Dodonna allowed him to choose from 4 cards selecting an extra damage as the crit effect. I was now on 1 hull and had to turn and run with an otherwise fresh 85 point ship for fear of being rammed by any ship I got close to.

Nasty combo.

No adomnition to laugh at luke?

No this was Foresight. Admonition was advancing along the other flank.

He is good against Rebels, and expensive, low-hull types like the MC30 in particular. Imperials however usually don't care too much especially with Motti in the fleet. Even a GSD will have lost most of its shields from other sources of fire before being killed by Luke's 1-2 shots.

Edited by Mad Cat

If you're running Dodonna and a CR90B, why SW-7's over Dodonna's Pride?

It would come down to flotillas and when do I get to alter my dice, before the scatter? If the scatter happens before I choose the crit effect, then it seems sw-7's are more effective. This is me thinking out loud. Shoot holes if you wish.

D Pride happens as a crit effect, so a flotilla could scatter your attack away, but you also have the option of not using the crit and trigger a normal one if you roll an Acc. I think D Pride is better if you are going with Dodonna because it can also hit big ships as well.

If you get an accuracy you can still activate D's Pride.

You roll dice, modify them as you see fit, say you have hit, crit, acc. Before they scatter you can spend your accuracy to block their scatter. Then they resolve their defense tokens, then you choose your crit effect, if you still have one available, and can choose D's Pride to cancel all of your dice at this point to deal the face up damage.

So Scatter doesn't auto-stop D's Pride.