Post-Worlds - Where are the cries to nerf Zuckuss?

By Keffisch, in X-Wing

I would have thought there'd be an uproar.

No, because he isn't actually broken. Manaroos unlimited range is the only problematic thing about the winning list, since it allows for easy use of Lone Wolf and entirely mitigates Zuckuss' severe downside. On normal ships he cripples damage output just as much as the opponents defense dice. He also doesn't do much against 0-1 agility ships.

I don't think Zuckuss needs any nerf.

If someone wants to complain about Dengaroo then you should complain about the unlimited range of Manaroos ability.

It should have been same as Kyle Katarns ability at range 1-3.

I personally think that there is no need to nerf anything.

I would have thought there'd be an uproar.

In the other thread

I wish I had something to say about Zuckuss, but I'm really just here to eat some popcorn. ;)

Why not just say what you feel rather than complain that other people aren't saying it.

Why start a thread with a passive aggressive complaint about a lack of preemptive agreement with your opinion.

I would have thought there'd be an uproar.

In the other thread

Link please. :)

Why not just say what you feel rather than complain that other people aren't saying it.

Why start a thread with a passive aggressive complaint about a lack of preemptive agreement with your opinion.

You're jumping to an awful lot of conclusions.

I am not complaining either, as stated in the OP, I thought there'd be an uproar.

Edited by Keffisch

Good one.

A lot of players took it very personally when Deadeye was amended, so outcry about a Zuckuss nerf after Scum winning Worlds would be a bitter and empty complaint.

I wish I had something to say about Zuckuss, but I'm really just here to eat some popcorn. ;)

Nerf Zuckuss!

:angry:

Considering Dengaroo was the list that won and the Mist Hunter was no where to be found, Zuckass is fine. :P

Edited by Marinealver

A lot of players took it very personally when Deadeye was amended, so outcry about a Zuckuss nerf after Scum winning Worlds would be a bitter and empty complaint.

Not sure I get the taking it personally bit but it is quite possible that the negative response from such a nerf - on top of a recent one - would be too great.

Why not just say what you feel rather than complain that other people aren't saying it.

Why start a thread with a passive aggressive complaint about a lack of preemptive agreement with your opinion.

You're jumping to an awful lot of conclusions.

I am not complaining either, as stated in the OP, I thought there'd be an uproar.

If this is the case you should type 'Nerf Zuckuss' into Google: The search engine will find most references.

There's even a bunch of filters allowing you to search by time period.

Why not just say what you feel rather than complain that other people aren't saying it.

Why start a thread with a passive aggressive complaint about a lack of preemptive agreement with your opinion.

You're jumping to an awful lot of conclusions.

I am not complaining either, as stated in the OP, I thought there'd be an uproar.

If this is the case you should type 'Nerf Zuckuss' into Google: The search engine will find most references.

There's even a bunch of filters allowing you to search by time period.

Ah - I used this forum's search engine, my (their?) bad. :P

Edited by Keffisch

Zuckuss is a faction-defining card, just like R2D2 and Palp. The case against him would have to be watertight for a nerf, and I don't see it, personally. Especially when balancing can be done through new cards - BMST and Kylo spring to mind. Let's see how things shake out, now that dengaroo has gone from also ran to pack leader. People will have to build with it in mind.

Dengaroo might be a bit of a NPE (on the other hand so is palp aces, 4x TLT, rebel regen and PWT:s).

Zuckuss in other builds is awesome (especially the party bus), so I for one would be sad to see him nerfed.

Why not just say what you feel rather than complain that other people aren't saying it.

Why start a thread with a passive aggressive complaint about a lack of preemptive agreement with your opinion.

You're jumping to an awful lot of conclusions.

I am not complaining either, as stated in the OP, I thought there'd be an uproar.

If this is the case you should type 'Nerf Zuckuss' into Google: The search engine will find most references.

There's even a bunch of filters allowing you to search by time period.

Ah - I used this forum's search engine, my (their?) bad. :P

Theirs, definitly theirs. Its a miracle to find anything with that thing!

This thread gets a one :( review for propagating a toxic environment on the forums.

There is nothing wrong with Zuckuss, the problem is with the mechanic of unlimited stress stack for virtually 0 negative cost. As well as the unlimited range of Manaroo, this is the same issue as Palp. A simple range errata would go a long way to fix these two. Given the affect Phantoms had on the meta and the changes they bought, maybe - read hopefully they change this stacking mechanic.

Nerf Zuckuss!

My suggestion is that white moves aren't allowed with more than three stress.

My suggestion is that white moves aren't allowed with more than three stress.

Thats the first "make stress matter agains" suggestion that isn't flat out dumb I have seen. As long as Tycho gets an extra clause that allows him to ignore that.