M9-G8 Timing and Rules

By ObiWan, in X-Wing Rules Questions

I like M9-G8 but want to make sure I'm understanding it right.

- M9-G8 player has a target lock on an opposing player

- Opposing player attacks.

- M9-G8 can force the opposing player to re-roll one attack dice but this happens prior to any modifications that the opposing player may or may not make on their attack dice

- However, since dice cannot be re-rolled twice the opposing player cannot re-roll (through target locks, predator, etc...) the dice that M9-G8 re-rolled, they can however change results (through focus tokens, etc...)

Is this the correct understanding? I would much rather modify the dice after all opposing player mods, but I don't think that is legal. At least while target locking an opposing player rather than a friendly?

The defender modifies before the attacker, so you should be triggering M9-G8 before the attacker, even if the droid isn't on the defending ship. This would mean that the attacker must reroll the chosen die, and that he can't reroll it during his modifications, but he can use a focus token to modify that result.

I don't think you can wait until he's done his modifications and then choose, because that would be well out of sequence.

So the outline I have above is correct?

So the outline I have above is correct?

Yes - the timing of the sequence is detailed on page 5 of the rules reference and page 7 of the FAQ

I find it easiest to remember. If you roll the dice (attack or defense) you touch them again last.

I like M9-G8 but want to make sure I'm understanding it right.

- M9-G8 player has a target lock on an opposing player

- Opposing player attacks.

- M9-G8 can force the opposing player to re-roll one attack dice but this happens prior to any modifications that the opposing player may or may not make on their attack dice

- However, since dice cannot be re-rolled twice the opposing player cannot re-roll (through target locks, predator, etc...) the dice that M9-G8 re-rolled, they can however change results (through focus tokens, etc...)

Is this the correct understanding? I would much rather modify the dice after all opposing player mods, but I don't think that is legal. At least while target locking an opposing player rather than a friendly?

Of course you'd rather your modifications always occur after the opponent's, which is why it works the way that it does. The person who rippled the dice always gets a chance to correct the terrible things you've done, assuming they have the tokens or upgrades to do so (except rerolling a rolled die). One exception is Crack Shot, which cancels an evade result after ALL dice modifications have taken place.

Which is why crackshot is good.

Anything forcing opponents to re-roll is good as they can't then target lock, Han, Rey etc those dice as you can never re-roll a re-roll.