Large Ships swarms, Epic Play

By Hexdot, in X-Wing

As I told here a couple of weeks ago I got blasted vs a 6 ship FS 31 Swarm. I am thinking a little about this. If I add my pals ships to my fleet I can deploy at least 8 ships of each Large "class" (only 6 VCX). We usually play Epic with a little RPG background. But sometimes we play standard Epic "Build your own".

We saw that the FS 31 PS3 swarm is quite good. And I am thinking about it. Perhaps 200 pts of the same type of Large. Not Y 666 or Shuttle, lack of K turn is quite a handicap. I like the idea of 5 naked basic Decis, at 40 pts each simply avoid obstacles and enjoy traffic jams. Or add a couple of fleet officers and gunners and Sistem Officers and improve your accuracy a lot.

Or 5 Lothal Rebels with some cheap torpedoes to cover your rear... Not the way we play but sometimes... Weird experiments you know... Like that glorious Raider plus 24 Ties.

Edited by Hexdot

I think the major problem with using the VT-49 or VCX-100 in Epic play is that you eat every single bit of damage thrown at you* which results in them melting very fast to concentrated firepower, which there is a lot of in Epic. The use of cheaper generics means a much larger weight of red dice being thrown compared to a 100/6 fight with 2-3 ships in a list. Meanwhile, you are only throwing back 5 3-die attacks, which is the same as a small handful of X-Wings. They are literally outgunned in the larger format. Which is sad, being that larger ships like the Deci seem like they would be more at home in a larger scale battle.

Something like the FS-31 list you ran into, at least had some damage mitigation via 2 Agility on each. Considering 5 VT-49's or 6 FS-31's vs. a swarm of 2-attack TIE fighters, the FS-31's are actually going to be evading a large amount of damage, while the VT-49's are going to have to soak every bit of it.

Seeing 5 Deci's out there would be sexy, though. :wub:

Edit: Oh, and you also may want to look at what a turbolaser would do against the larger, slower ships.

*Excluding Range 3 and Obstructions

Edited by kris40k

Officially, you are only allowed 6 Large ships of a single type in Epic play.

As I told here a couple of weeks ago I got blasted vs a 6 ship FS 31 Swarm. I am thinking a little about this. If I add my pals ships to my fleet I can deploy at least 8 ships of each Large "class"

Officially, you are only allowed 6 Large ships of a single type in Epic play.

I think the major problem with using the VT-49 or VCX-100 in Epic play is that you eat every single bit of damage thrown at you* which results in them melting very fast to concentrated firepower, which there is a lot of in Epic. The use of cheaper generics means a much larger weight of red dice being thrown compared to a 100/6 fight with 2-3 ships in a list. Meanwhile, you are only throwing back 5 3-die attacks, which is the same as a small handful of X-Wings. They are literally outgunned in the larger format. Which is sad, being that larger ships like the Deci seem like they would be more at home in a larger scale battle.

Something like the FS-31 list you ran into, at least had some damage mitigation via 2 Agility on each. Considering 5 VT-49's or 6 FS-31's vs. a swarm of 2-attack TIE fighters, the FS-31's are actually going to be evading a large amount of damage, while the VT-49's are going to have to soak every bit of it.

I have run 3-4 FS31's in Epic often and done quite well with them. I have to avoid the design temptation of not tricking each one out too much, though, so that the loss of a single ship is not a huge point sink.

Edited by Darth Meanie