The "missing" stuff

By Alisair Longreach, in Star Wars: Edge of the Empire RPG

In the game I run I decide what is canon.

(Star Destroyers are crewed by Gungan forced-labor, I just decided that right now.)

Edited by Vulf

Totally forgot about a corporate sector source book... I was 2 focused on the trees as it were... after no disintegrations a corporate sector source book is the EotE book I want most. (But that would come after the spy source book for AoR, but unless the line ends early the spy book is a given)

I would love a Corporate Sector source book. And playable races in general, especially Arkanians, Zeltrons, Bith, Ugnaughts, and Jawas. I want more Force powers.

I want an in-depth INDEX on the site that combines all three lines and is updated quickly after each book release. Something I can download and print, or at least keep handy on my datapad/comlink.

I'm never likely to watch the cartoons so I've no idea what and what isn't part of Disney's canon.

But my point stands; we won't see anything that isn't 'canon' in the RPG. For the first two years, the game drew quite a lot from the EU. The last year however, seems to have only included the official Disney stuff.

Also, I'm not certain that appearances in books and novels will be enough to make something official, to be honest.

All stories published after Disney took over are canon . Specifically, everything published after 25 April 2014. This includes A New Dawn (published September 2014)

I want an in-depth INDEX on the site that combines all three lines and is updated quickly after each book release. Something I can download and print, or at least keep handy on my datapad/comlink.

An index would be nice. However, I don’t know how much time/effort that FFG would be willing to put into something like that for this game. Or if they would even be allowed to do that, by the terms of their license.

Failing that, our only option might be a community-based effort in that space.

I'm never likely to watch the cartoons so I've no idea what and what isn't part of Disney's canon.

But my point stands; we won't see anything that isn't 'canon' in the RPG. For the first two years, the game drew quite a lot from the EU. The last year however, seems to have only included the official Disney stuff.

Also, I'm not certain that appearances in books and novels will be enough to make something official, to be honest.

All stories published after Disney took over are canon . Specifically, everything published after 25 April 2014. This includes A New Dawn (published September 2014)

Playing devil's advocate, since/if the character in question isn't specifically called out as being a zeltron IN THE STORY, then technically zeltrons haven't appeared in cannon even though the author confirmed that he intended the character to be a zeltron.

Now I'd personally like zeltrons to be cannon but "by the letter of the law" I don't think that they are yet.

I'm never likely to watch the cartoons so I've no idea what and what isn't part of Disney's canon.

But my point stands; we won't see anything that isn't 'canon' in the RPG. For the first two years, the game drew quite a lot from the EU. The last year however, seems to have only included the official Disney stuff.

Also, I'm not certain that appearances in books and novels will be enough to make something official, to be honest.

All stories published after Disney took over are canon . Specifically, everything published after 25 April 2014. This includes A New Dawn (published September 2014)

Playing devil's advocate, since/if the character in question isn't specifically called out as being a zeltron IN THE STORY, then technically zeltrons haven't appeared in cannon even though the author confirmed that he intended the character to be a zeltron.

Now I'd personally like zeltrons to be cannon but "by the letter of the law" I don't think that they are yet.

He didn't simply "intend" it. he specifically stated that the character was . And the character's physical description in the book confirms it, being a red-skinned near human. The instructor was also a Muun.

I'm never likely to watch the cartoons so I've no idea what and what isn't part of Disney's canon.

But my point stands; we won't see anything that isn't 'canon' in the RPG. For the first two years, the game drew quite a lot from the EU. The last year however, seems to have only included the official Disney stuff.

Also, I'm not certain that appearances in books and novels will be enough to make something official, to be honest.

All stories published after Disney took over are canon . Specifically, everything published after 25 April 2014. This includes A New Dawn (published September 2014)

Playing devil's advocate, since/if the character in question isn't specifically called out as being a zeltron IN THE STORY, then technically zeltrons haven't appeared in cannon even though the author confirmed that he intended the character to be a zeltron.

Now I'd personally like zeltrons to be cannon but "by the letter of the law" I don't think that they are yet.

He didn't simply "intend" it. he specifically stated that the character was . And the character's physical description in the book confirms it, being a red-skinned near human. The instructor was also a Muun.

Does THE STORY actually label him with the word "zeltron." Because by "the letter of the law" as it were, it it didn't, then it's not cannon blessed by disney regardress of what the author stated about OUTSIDE THE STORY. like I said, devil's advocate, by the way a literal devil might qualify as a red skinned near human. BTW can you think of a reason why the story didn't simply state he was "a zeltron, a red skinned near human". 2 extra words, and then it would have been cannon.

Back in the day Zahn intended Vader's mask to be a stylized version of a noghri face, but Lucasfilm wouldn't let him say that, so he did it anyway with his description of the noghri but didn't actually state in his than trilogy that Vader's mask WAS or even LOOKED LIKE a stylized version of a noghri face and Lucasfilm let it fly.

I could see Disney doing the same thing with the species name "zeltron" in this case.

I'm never likely to watch the cartoons so I've no idea what and what isn't part of Disney's canon.

But my point stands; we won't see anything that isn't 'canon' in the RPG. For the first two years, the game drew quite a lot from the EU. The last year however, seems to have only included the official Disney stuff.

Also, I'm not certain that appearances in books and novels will be enough to make something official, to be honest.

All stories published after Disney took over are canon . Specifically, everything published after 25 April 2014. This includes A New Dawn (published September 2014)

Playing devil's advocate, since/if the character in question isn't specifically called out as being a zeltron IN THE STORY, then technically zeltrons haven't appeared in cannon even though the author confirmed that he intended the character to be a zeltron.

Now I'd personally like zeltrons to be cannon but "by the letter of the law" I don't think that they are yet.

He didn't simply "intend" it. he specifically stated that the character was . And the character's physical description in the book confirms it, being a red-skinned near human. The instructor was also a Muun.

Does THE STORY actually label him with the word "zeltron." Because by "the letter of the law" as it were, it it didn't, then it's not cannon blessed by disney regardress of what the author stated about OUTSIDE THE STORY. like I said, devil's advocate, by the way a literal devil might qualify as a red skinned near human. BTW can you think of a reason why the story didn't simply state he was "a zeltron, a red skinned near human". 2 extra words, and then it would have been cannon.

Back in the day Zahn intended Vader's mask to be a stylized version of a noghri face, but Lucasfilm wouldn't let him say that, so he did it anyway with his description of the noghri but didn't actually state in his than trilogy that Vader's mask WAS or even LOOKED LIKE a stylized version of a noghri face and Lucasfilm let it fly.

I could see Disney doing the same thing with the species name "zeltron" in this case.

Letter of the law is that word of god is canon. ;-)

In this case the guy who looks like a zeltron and is called out as zeltron by the author is a zeltron. Same applies to the clone wars stuff, which we get as semi-done episodes, etc counts even in that state.

Now just because Zeltron exists does not mean that they are like anything in the EU. That is something completely different.

Edited by SEApocalypse

As for published adventures I would love for about 6 complete ones in deep world cities like Nar Shaddaa and Coruscant. They could include some extra playable races and gear in adventure books, like how playable Sathari are featured in Chronicles of the Gatekeeper .

Official Imperial splatbook

Yeah, I'm sure it's probably been discussed before, but I'd really like to have more about what life under Imperial rule in the Core worlds is actually like. There must be people who think the Empire is actually pretty decent, and that becoming an officer in the Navy is a solid career choice.

I'd love to see more about those kinds of characters - young, well-educated people for whom serving as part of the Empire is just a natural and respectable thing to do. As opposed to Hux's Nazi-style speeches...

Do we really want Ewoks?

I can't speak for "we", but I know I would like Ewok stats.

that triangular Imperial carrier from the Rebels cartoon

What, you mean this thing?

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I thought I saw it in one of the AoR sourcebooks?

That triangular carrier has been identified as the Quasarfire Escort Carrier.

That triangular carrier has been identified as the Quasarfire Escort Carrier.

Which, I believe, has stats in Stay on Target.

that triangular Imperial carrier from the Rebels cartoon

What, you mean this thing?

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I thought I saw it in one of the AoR sourcebooks?

Believe it's covered in Forged in Battle (Soldier career splat).

That triangular carrier has been identified as the Quasarfire Escort Carrier.

Bah! Screw new continuity! It shall always be known to me as the Imperial Troop Transport.

That triangular carrier has been identified as the Quasarfire Escort Carrier.

Bah! Screw new continuity! It shall always be known to me as the Imperial Troop Transport.

LoL He's talking about the TIE bomber carrier that the Rebels stole from orbit above Ryloth. :)

That triangular carrier has been identified as the Quasarfire Escort Carrier.

Bah! Screw new continuity! It shall always be known to me as the Imperial Troop Transport.

And so it is called in the current continuity.

The question was about the Quasarfire, which is a distinctly different kettle o' fish.

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what I miss... hm German translations, they are behind at least 2.5 years, for... no real reasons

this christmas I will buy the special modification and No disintegration source book in the usa out of desperation,

In the game:

species: kaminonians... kaminoans... kaminionians... the coloners from kamino... and jawas

classes: a testpilot and a backjard-technician-trader

pictures: twi'lek

oh and a "clone wars setting" book would be nice, if this is not covered in the here unreleased books

Edited by Seguleh

I'm never likely to watch the cartoons so I've no idea what and what isn't part of Disney's canon.

But my point stands; we won't see anything that isn't 'canon' in the RPG. For the first two years, the game drew quite a lot from the EU. The last year however, seems to have only included the official Disney stuff.

Also, I'm not certain that appearances in books and novels will be enough to make something official, to be honest.

I see an exception to this: the Elomin from "Forged in Battle" are 100% EU (to my knowledge) and this was created and released this year. That means there is still hope for all (most) of the EU races out there.

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I'm never likely to watch the cartoons so I've no idea what and what isn't part of Disney's canon.

But my point stands; we won't see anything that isn't 'canon' in the RPG. For the first two years, the game drew quite a lot from the EU. The last year however, seems to have only included the official Disney stuff.

Also, I'm not certain that appearances in books and novels will be enough to make something official, to be honest.

I see an exception to this: the Elomin from "Forged in Battle" are 100% EU (to my knowledge) and this was created and released this year. That means there is still hope for all (most) of the EU races out there.

Nope, canon.

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Elomin/Canon

They were part of the Marvel Han Solo comic series this year. Most of the EU returns via the new EU into the canon again. ^_^

Im probably looking for a modular encounter sourcebook but I feel this game is significantly lacking in the following areas:

1- Technician/Computer skills. I often scratch my head that there are 5 skills for knowledge yet one all encompassing Technician skill and one all encompassing Computer skill. I mean which technician out there can disassemble an HVAC system or a water vaporator then has the ability to rebuild a warp drive on an Imperial Cruiser. Similar comparisons can be drawn with Computer (and even medical) skill.

2- Space- it is the backdrop of the entire game. Yet, Space as a dangerous location is completely ignored. I believe there are scores of incredible challenges in which the players would have to pit themselves against the environs of Space.

I have been toying with the idea of creating one shot modular encounters to run after I finish JOY and The Pirate Queen. I would like to put the "Sci" back into "SciFi"- within the confines of the abilities of the players. Perhaps the party gets hired to track down a rare and valuable mineral locked in a small moon orbiting a comet...perhaps the party gets trapped inside a massive star destroyer fusion drive when scrounging for parts and they need to rework certain components to escape before it's moved to a trash compactor.....perhaps the party comes across a bulkhead in which the entire crew was slain by a microscopic virus...how do they go about identifying it and killing it? How do they save their friends?

The Core rulebook discusses what SW is and isn't really meant to be- that was their approach from a game designer and Im fine with that, I get that. But I do think that an out of the box approach to a modular encounter where the pcs keep their weapons holstered and strap on their thinking caps would be a really fun break from the run of the mill typical adventure. I really think there is so much more detail that can be mined out of these areas of the game that FFG has only really just barely scratched the surface. Again, I think these types of things aren't for everyone, but I do believe they could offer some very interesting possibilities.

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I'd like to see the Acclamator -class assault ship and maybe the V-19 Torrent . I'm indifferent to a Clone Wars ruleset, as I think it could be done well enough with the existing classes, but there were a lot of cool ships used by the GAR and other factions around the end of the Republic.

My concern is that since ships have so few characteristics, there's really not a lot to differentiate them as it is. Add in a bunch of new ships, and they'll all start to run together with just a point in this characteristic or that to separate them. To a lesser extent, that's also my biggest concern with introducing too many species.

Does anyone else feel the same way?

I completely agree. Also, the V-19 Torrent is in Savage Spirits.

I'd like a compendium of clone wars gear and vehicles, as that's probably my favorite time in Star Wars. I agree that we don't really need a ruleset, (AoR will work just fine) but I would like a PDF compendium of group-specific vehicles and weapons. An Imperial list would really help with the Rebellion adventure we're playing.

I guess I need to get busy.