The rebels ain't getting the quasar unless both factions do. It's an Imperial class of ship now and just like the Interdictor, FFG is going to follow Star Wars Rebels and the New Canon before the EU when implementing the Quasar into Armada.

Think of it this way. Sure the Rebels have a Quasar but the Imperials probably have hundred if not thousands. Lore reasons alone would make it very strange to not give it to the Imperials.

I think there would be massive Rebels nerd rage if the carrier didn't come to the rebs: at the very least, Phoenix Home would need to be a title for the rebs even if it remains ostensibly Imp.

I don't understand this. Simply because the Rebels got one in a show does not make it a Rebel ship. If an SSD gets released, should the Rebels get one as well? Since they did steal several of them. And what about stolen Ties? Do I get to fly those as Rebels too? When do the Imp get the Nebulon, which was designed for the Empire.

The Quasar is an Imperial ship, and I expect it to come out as Imperial. We will get the Pelta, and rumor says it is a carrier.

You can fly the stolen tie in x-wing- Just saying, there's precedence from FFG for this now.

You may or may not like it, but I do believe it is most probably going to end up as a rebel option. I for one am in the "pleased" camp as replicating show/movie moments is as equally if not more important than the gameplay itself.

This isn't X-Wing so the comparison is lost, and I would assume the dev team is different for both games.

If we tried to replicate movie moments, this game would be so unbalanced it would be unplayable. Corvettes taking down an ISD? Unlikely. Rebels bombing an ISD? More plausible, but the majority would die. A-Wings even being relevant to the game? Nope, as Phoenix Squad shows, unless you smash into a SSD.

This game is supposed to "give the feeling" of recreating movie events, not actually attempt to.

Plus the Quasar onscreen is again an Imperial vessel. If you're trying to replicate what's on screen you have to make it Imperial or usable by both factions.

Yes, the Hammerhead will likely come to Armada, but i just really don't see a use for it atm. Everything it can do, the CR90 Corvette can do better. But oh well...

I'm lousy at predictions, but i'll go with the MC-40 Cruiser for the rebels and the Vindicator-Class Cruiser for the Imperials. Let's see some Medium-ship love

The hammerheads will look different though - and while that might not matter as much to some, personally I'm a very visual gamer and love to see diversity on the table top. I imagine they could be more like the Raider than the CR-90 - they might not have red dice, and they might be better against squadrons. Even slight differences can be significant here. Suppose they are JUST like a CR-90 but have 2 braces in place of the 2 evades - Now suddenly they can fill a different role altogether. They might work will with Ackbar, but wouldn't so much with Mon Mothma. They wouldn't take TRCs, but might take something else...

Why? The Empire had a single class of large ship because it was all they needed. That's why it was so general purpose. It makes sense for them to have only one large ship. The Rebs had to grab whatever they could and ended with quite the mishmash and thus have a large number of different classes available.

Mind you, I wouldn't be against another large option for the Imps, I'm just saying that it makes sense that they only have a single class of ship.

It's not about replicating the cinematic experience - otherwise it'd be a higher point limit so you could field more than 3 ISDs, and by the way, also have a Super Star Destroyer. Meanwhile the rebels would have... well virtually everything they can muster! - Actually yes that'll be the end-game for Correllian Conflict actually if you have a good 1500 point battle! Oh man that's gonna be insane! But either way, this is a game, and you NEED more variety if you want people to enjoy it. Can't just be like "Imps have the ISD and that's it."

And I've seen people ask for a "Wingless Liberty" a couple times - can anyone explain to me what exactly they are talking about? Do they not know that we had a Home One expansion already?

And I've seen people ask for a "Wingless Liberty" a couple times - can anyone explain to me what exactly they are talking about? Do they not know that we had a Home One expansion already?

ahahahhaha this is too funny

Anyone that already played the PC game X-Wing Alliance knows that there are lots of options for new ships to come. Not to mention from other games, series, comic books, movies... it is A LOT of options! I would wish to see... Modified Nebulon Frigate, Assault Frigate Mk1, Alliance/Imperial Escort Carrier, Dreadnought, Light Calamari or Strike Cruiser. But just any different is ok too, lol

Aye, that's one point of view.

The other point of view is that virtually none of that stuff is "Canon", anymore - and although FFG does not have to restrict itself to Canonicity, it may have to follow heavy recommendations to do so, from LFL Ltd....

Plus if they were using Xwing/TIE fighter we would not have a large thread on the Assault Gunboat in the Xwing forums.

Yes, the Hammerhead will likely come to Armada, but i just really don't see a use for it atm. Everything it can do, the CR90 Corvette can do better. But oh well...

I'm lousy at predictions, but i'll go with the MC-40 Cruiser for the rebels and the Vindicator-Class Cruiser for the Imperials. Let's see some Medium-ship love

The hammerheads will look different though - and while that might not matter as much to some, personally I'm a very visual gamer and love to see diversity on the table top. I imagine they could be more like the Raider than the CR-90 - they might not have red dice, and they might be better against squadrons. Even slight differences can be significant here. Suppose they are JUST like a CR-90 but have 2 braces in place of the 2 evades - Now suddenly they can fill a different role altogether. They might work will with Ackbar, but wouldn't so much with Mon Mothma. They wouldn't take TRCs, but might take something else...

Why? The Empire had a single class of large ship because it was all they needed. That's why it was so general purpose. It makes sense for them to have only one large ship. The Rebs had to grab whatever they could and ended with quite the mishmash and thus have a large number of different classes available.

Mind you, I wouldn't be against another large option for the Imps, I'm just saying that it makes sense that they only have a single class of ship.

It's not about replicating the cinematic experience - otherwise it'd be a higher point limit so you could field more than 3 ISDs, and by the way, also have a Super Star Destroyer. Meanwhile the rebels would have... well virtually everything they can muster! - Actually yes that'll be the end-game for Correllian Conflict actually if you have a good 1500 point battle! Oh man that's gonna be insane! But either way, this is a game, and you NEED more variety if you want people to enjoy it. Can't just be like "Imps have the ISD and that's it."

And I've seen people ask for a "Wingless Liberty" a couple times - can anyone explain to me what exactly they are talking about? Do they not know that we had a Home One expansion already?

Look at the establishing shot in RotJ of the Sullust fleet: the ILM crew had 3 types of MC80: the Liberty, Home One, and the Liberty with wings removed and an extra engine. In terms of what's on screen, the wingless liberty are actually the most numerous MC type ship in the Endor fleet as they fill in the most often for "background blob" ship MC.

And I perfectly respect your opinions: I'll still personally be hoping for a dual faction space triangle!

Wingless Liberty to the starboard aft of Home One

Studio model, ventral shot.

As much as I still want to see the Providence -class, Recusant -class, and Venator -class ships brought into Armada, I'll guess on the safe side and assume FFG is continuing forward with ships that are appearing in Rebels and Rogue One. While I'm still hoping and expecting other capital ships (Empire at War's ships still come to mind prominently), my guess is that we'll see more Rebels and Rogue One content before FFG starts delving back into the Legends EU. So long as Rebels and Rogue One are providing enough Armada content.

I also currently believe that Wave 6 will be a small wave with just two ships. Especially after Wave 5 will contain two ships and new squadron packs, making it more of a "large" wave.

Rebels

Hammerhead -class Cruiser.

- This ship has shown up multiple times in Rebels as an important addition to their growing fleet, and it's been identified in the background of the Rogue One trailer. There's no way FFG wouldn't put this ship into the game. The tough part is making it feel different enough from the Nebulon-B.

Empire

Quasar Fire -class Bulk Cruiser

- The rebels stole a single one of these, and I don't believe we're so far along in Armada that we have to start doing cross-faction ships (like X-Wing did with Sabine's TIE Fighter). It's an Imperial ship through and through. The only argument against this ship I have is that the Empire already has quality carrier ships in the Victory -class and Imperial -class that can double as offensive powerhouses, as well as the Gozantis for cheap squadron pushers. I find it hard to see a need for a pure carrier-based for the Empire.

As much as I still want to see the Providence -class, Recusant -class, and Venator -class ships brought into Armada, I'll guess on the safe side and assume FFG is continuing forward with ships that are appearing in Rebels and Rogue One. While I'm still hoping and expecting other capital ships (Empire at War's ships still come to mind prominently), my guess is that we'll see more Rebels and Rogue One content before FFG starts delving back into the Legends EU. So long as Rebels and Rogue One are providing enough Armada content.

I also currently believe that Wave 6 will be a small wave with just two ships. Especially after Wave 5 will contain two ships and new squadron packs, making it more of a "large" wave.

Rebels

Hammerhead -class Cruiser.

- This ship has shown up multiple times in Rebels as an important addition to their growing fleet, and it's been identified in the background of the Rogue One trailer. There's no way FFG wouldn't put this ship into the game. The tough part is making it feel different enough from the Nebulon-B.

Empire

Quasar Fire -class Bulk Cruiser

- The rebels stole a single one of these, and I don't believe we're so far along in Armada that we have to start doing cross-faction ships (like X-Wing did with Sabine's TIE Fighter). It's an Imperial ship through and through. The only argument against this ship I have is that the Empire already has quality carrier ships in the Victory -class and Imperial -class that can double as offensive powerhouses, as well as the Gozantis for cheap squadron pushers. I find it hard to see a need for a pure carrier-based for the Empire.

Empire

Quasar Fire -class Bulk Cruiser

- The rebels stole a single one of these, and I don't believe we're so far along in Armada that we have to start doing cross-faction ships (like X-Wing did with Sabine's TIE Fighter). It's an Imperial ship through and through. The only argument against this ship I have is that the Empire already has quality carrier ships in the Victory -class and Imperial -class that can double as offensive powerhouses, as well as the Gozantis for cheap squadron pushers. I find it hard to see a need for a pure carrier-based for the Empire.

No love for the Ton Falk Space Slug? Is it considered canon at this point? I feel that both sides need to have dedicated carriers (and also dedicated anti-squadron ships too)

The hammerhead I believe is supposed to be longer then a Nebulon B right? The pelta model''s size may throw things off a bit.

Call me crazy but I really want to see the Imperial cargo transport make it into the game.

Empire

Quasar Fire -class Bulk Cruiser

- The rebels stole a single one of these, and I don't believe we're so far along in Armada that we have to start doing cross-faction ships (like X-Wing did with Sabine's TIE Fighter). It's an Imperial ship through and through. The only argument against this ship I have is that the Empire already has quality carrier ships in the Victory -class and Imperial -class that can double as offensive powerhouses, as well as the Gozantis for cheap squadron pushers. I find it hard to see a need for a pure carrier-based for the Empire.

No love for the Ton Falk Space Slug? Is it considered canon at this point? I feel that both sides need to have dedicated carriers (and also dedicated anti-squadron ships too)

Unfortunately I don't know as much as I'd like to of Legends capital ships from the Galactic Civil War era. Has the Ton-Falk -class shown up visually in the new canon yet? If not, then I don't expect to see it in Armada.

I still have trouble thinking of a need for dedicated carrier ships in Armada. There already are effective carrier ships in the game with the Victory , Imperial , Nebulon-B, MC-80, and even the flotillas. A dedicated carrier ship would (assumingly) have less offensive firepower than most ships it's size (I'd put the Quasar at a medium-size ship). So why choose it over ships that would be similarly costed, but can deal reliable damage to enemy ships at the cost of a lower squadron command value?

It really seems the only things still canon left are quasar, hammerhead, tector, and the star jammer or whatever they are called from the new EU.

Edit just remembered lancers, carracks and immobilizers are canon again

Empire

Quasar Fire -class Bulk Cruiser

- The rebels stole a single one of these, and I don't believe we're so far along in Armada that we have to start doing cross-faction ships (like X-Wing did with Sabine's TIE Fighter). It's an Imperial ship through and through. The only argument against this ship I have is that the Empire already has quality carrier ships in the Victory -class and Imperial -class that can double as offensive powerhouses, as well as the Gozantis for cheap squadron pushers. I find it hard to see a need for a pure carrier-based for the Empire.

No love for the Ton Falk Space Slug? Is it considered canon at this point? I feel that both sides need to have dedicated carriers (and also dedicated anti-squadron ships too)

Unfortunately I don't know as much as I'd like to of Legends capital ships from the Galactic Civil War era. Has the Ton-Falk -class shown up visually in the new canon yet? If not, then I don't expect to see it in Armada.

I still have trouble thinking of a need for dedicated carrier ships in Armada. There already are effective carrier ships in the game with the Victory , Imperial , Nebulon-B, MC-80, and even the flotillas. A dedicated carrier ship would (assumingly) have less offensive firepower than most ships it's size (I'd put the Quasar at a medium-size ship). So why choose it over ships that would be similarly costed, but can deal reliable damage to enemy ships at the cost of a lower squadron command value?

I think they will start making ship specific upgrades like they have for the Interdictor and are doing for the Pelta. Means you have to take the carrier to get a good bonus instead of throwing the upgrades on a Vic.

As much as I still want to see the Providence -class, Recusant -class, and Venator -class ships brought into Armada, I'll guess on the safe side and assume FFG is continuing forward with ships that are appearing in Rebels and Rogue One. While I'm still hoping and expecting other capital ships (Empire at War's ships still come to mind prominently), my guess is that we'll see more Rebels and Rogue One content before FFG starts delving back into the Legends EU. So long as Rebels and Rogue One are providing enough Armada content.

I also currently believe that Wave 6 will be a small wave with just two ships. Especially after Wave 5 will contain two ships and new squadron packs, making it more of a "large" wave.

Rebels

Hammerhead -class Cruiser.

- This ship has shown up multiple times in Rebels as an important addition to their growing fleet, and it's been identified in the background of the Rogue One trailer. There's no way FFG wouldn't put this ship into the game. The tough part is making it feel different enough from the Nebulon-B.

Empire

Quasar Fire -class Bulk Cruiser

- The rebels stole a single one of these, and I don't believe we're so far along in Armada that we have to start doing cross-faction ships (like X-Wing did with Sabine's TIE Fighter). It's an Imperial ship through and through. The only argument against this ship I have is that the Empire already has quality carrier ships in the Victory -class and Imperial -class that can double as offensive powerhouses, as well as the Gozantis for cheap squadron pushers. I find it hard to see a need for a pure carrier-based for the Empire.

might come with a lot of squadron buff upgrades

Are squadron buffs really needed? Seems like squadrons are doing just fine and dandy with what they have available now.

The hammerhead I believe is supposed to be longer then a Nebulon B right? The pelta model''s size may throw things off a bit.

Call me crazy but I really want to see the Imperial cargo transport make it into the game.

Hammerheads are a little bit smaller than a CR90 so I think they can make a good flotilla option.

It really seems the only things still canon left are quasar, hammerhead, tector, and the star jammer or whatever they are called from the new EU.

Edit just remembered lancers, carracks and immobilizers are canon again

Brahatok!!!! They would make great flotillas!

Dreadnoughts!!!!!! \o/

Seriously, I want to see the first cross-faction ship. A monster that can be used by both sides! It would be awesome

A monster, that is barely larger than a Gladiator? Kind of like a Pocket Monster. Catch them all?

Please, FFG, this: you can take more of our money, don't need new molds, and don't have to pollute our tables with Outer Rim YV-3vilz0rz Crapterian Garbage Haulers that happen to include 3 power creep cards necessary to make the rest of our collections function in public.

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Endor Campaign Box

Jakku Campaign Box

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That Outer Rim YV-3vilz0rz sounds pretty intriguing. Let's start a discussion about a 3rd faction...

More titles for wave 1,2,3 and 4 ships. (AF2 needs a bit of love in that department )

AF1

I feel this will be the follow up to CC, call it kuat shipyards or something.

It will be interesting to see how well the CC does. I do think that campaign boxes are great vehicles to offer more options to existing expansions, such as special titles and characters.

Anyway, my predictions vary quite a bit from what I want. Because this is a prediction for a wave, which means more ships/squadrons, rather than campaign boxes or anything that might be deemed 'epic' (SSD), I'll predict the following:

• Quasar Fire (I don't like it - it's fugly - but it's in Rebels, so I think they'll do it).
• Hammerhead flotilla (or not-flotilla. How long is this thing again?)
• Imperial Squadrons 3 (digging into more of the X-Wing stuff, such as TIE Adv. Prototype, TIE Punisher, TIE Striker, and Sentinel-class landing craft)
• Rebel Squadrons 3 (K-Wing, Shadow Caster, ARC-170, something else)

I would actually like:

• Lancer-class frigate (yes, it's been re-canonized in name, but not shape)
• Pride of Tarlandia (It's pictured in the Battle of Endor, and referred to in the old literature as a communications ship, and it has been re-canonized.)
• Marauder-class Corvette .
• DP-20 frigate

Dreadnoughts!!!!!! \o/

Seriously, I want to see the first cross-faction ship. A monster that can be used by both sides! It would be awesome

A monster, that is barely larger than a Gladiator? Kind of like a Pocket Monster. Catch them all?

Please, FFG, this: you can take more of our money, don't need new molds, and don't have to pollute our tables with Outer Rim YV-3vilz0rz Crapterian Garbage Haulers that happen to include 3 power creep cards necessary to make the rest of our collections function in public.

...

Endor Campaign Box

Jakku Campaign Box

...

That Outer Rim YV-3vilz0rz sounds pretty intriguing. Let's start a discussion about a 3rd faction...

More titles for wave 1,2,3 and 4 ships. (AF2 needs a bit of love in that department )

AF1

I feel this will be the follow up to CC, call it kuat shipyards or something.

It will be interesting to see how well the CC does. I do think that campaign boxes are great vehicles to offer more options to existing expansions, such as special titles and characters.

Anyway, my predictions vary quite a bit from what I want. Because this is a prediction for a wave, which means more ships/squadrons, rather than campaign boxes or anything that might be deemed 'epic' (SSD), I'll predict the following:

• Quasar Fire (I don't like it - it's fugly - but it's in Rebels, so I think they'll do it).
• Hammerhead flotilla (or not-flotilla. How long is this thing again?)
• Imperial Squadrons 3 (digging into more of the X-Wing stuff, such as TIE Adv. Prototype, TIE Punisher, TIE Striker, and Sentinel-class landing craft)
• Rebel Squadrons 3 (K-Wing, Shadow Caster, ARC-170, something else)

I would actually like:

• Lancer-class frigate (yes, it's been re-canonized in name, but not shape)
• Pride of Tarlandia (It's pictured in the Battle of Endor, and referred to in the old literature as a communications ship, and it has been re-canonized.)
• Marauder-class Corvette .
• DP-20 frigate

Dreadnaughts I believe are atleast 600 meters, and being the template for the AF, it would be mediumship. If ever made to Armada by FFG.

A monster, that is barely larger than a Gladiator? Kind of like a Pocket Monster. Catch them all?

Dreadnaughts I believe are atleast 600 meters, and being the template for the AF, it would be mediumship. If ever made to Armada by FFG.

You Rebels would be preciously cute, if you weren't nefarious nihilists, intent on destroying galactic civilization. Yes, I'm sure 600 meters seems large to you, given the piddly size of your other ships. That is still a whole 100m shy of an AFMkII, and only just 100m longer than a Gladiator.

Surely you do not think of that as being impressive, or really worthy of the name 'dreadnought'.

P.S. Don't mind my bombastic attitude. I'm just channeling my inner Imperial to get more Dark Side energy on my side tonight and for Saturday's Regional competition.

How about an "escape from both" campaign.

How about an "escape from hoth" campaign.

I meant hoth. Sorry for the typo.

I think carriers can be special by providing something like an automatic squadron command every turn or something that makes them more specialized than the standard VSD/AF template. That being said, I think we can wait a wave or two before giving an easier time to Squads.

I'd love to see cross factional ships too like the Quasar or Dreadnoughts or even Nebulon B's. To me that screams the nature of the Rebellion's 2nd hand repurposing of existing ships.

I also would love more medium base ships. Anything to move from MSU kind of lists we are seeing do so well.

Empire

Quasar Fire -class Bulk Cruiser

- The rebels stole a single one of these, and I don't believe we're so far along in Armada that we have to start doing cross-faction ships (like X-Wing did with Sabine's TIE Fighter). It's an Imperial ship through and through. The only argument against this ship I have is that the Empire already has quality carrier ships in the Victory -class and Imperial -class that can double as offensive powerhouses, as well as the Gozantis for cheap squadron pushers. I find it hard to see a need for a pure carrier-based for the Empire.

No love for the Ton Falk Space Slug? Is it considered canon at this point? I feel that both sides need to have dedicated carriers (and also dedicated anti-squadron ships too)

It was recanonised in "Tarkin", along with 3 types of Gravity Well ship, one being the Immobilizer 418. While the Ton Falk wasn't pictured, obviously, it did come with a brief yet accurate description of the ship originally created by WEG with the same name.