I could see the Quasar as the first "either faction" ship, with separate ship cards per faction.

Since the imperials only have have one large based ship i think the resurgent class star destroyer might show up

My prediction for Wave 6:

Rebels: MC75, Hammerhead corvette

Imperials: Venator, ???

Resurgent doesnt make sense for Imperials entirely. As similar as they are I doubt the Empire and the First Order would get a long.

I doubt they would bring in resistance/new rebublic and first order factions though

But the current Imperial star Destroyer is still very good. What could they make better at a similar price? Not anything really

i added some edge highlighting its hard to tell its there

sorry wrong forum

A resurgent would have to be around like 200pts

My prediction for Wave 6:

Rebels: MC75, Hammerhead corvette

Imperials: Venator, ???

Reb: MC75, Hammerhead Corvette, a la Rogue One.

Imperials: Venator, Finalizer. Old and New

Both?: Something

5 ship wave!

Imps only have 1 large ship. And 1 more medium space triangle wouldn't be remiss.

That would be my utter dream set.

Upgrades to revitalize large and medium ships.

Cost reducers for large ship.

More actually effective AA cards.

An imperial ship with Fleet Supports (the Pelta stuff)

More Experimental Refits for the Interdictor

(And while I'm still dreaming, a rule change or upgrades that let you:

1. Attack twice against ships, and then attack twice vs squadrons. [separate turbolaser fire from point defense flak]

2. Ships do not need to spend defense tokens to resolve Brace and Redirect when attacked by squadrons. [scale ship defense better, require actually mixed fleet attacks to burn brace and redirect in bomber lists, instead of all emphasis on the squadrons]

)

Imps only have 1 large ship. And 1 more medium space triangle wouldn't be remiss.

I'd like a Vindicator cruiser. It's essentially a re-tooling of the Interdictor 3D sculpt no? It'd make such a great alternative for those of us who are reluctant to field ISDs too.

6 hours ago, Swayze said:

I'd like a Vindicator cruiser. It's essentially a re-tooling of the Interdictor 3D sculpt no? It'd make such a great alternative for those of us who are reluctant to field ISDs too.

Of course the Interdictor we have (from SW: Rebels) is larger than the original designs. I can live with the larger size though.

I know you Imperial players would love a carrier, but currently people are clamoring for 2-the Quasar-Fire and the Venator. So which design can you live with? As a rebel player, i know which one i'd be more scared of

The imperials need a carrier that can brawl more than anything...there is no afmk2 for the empire...the Venator would fill that role perfectly.

The qusar isn't what the meta needs.

as much as i'd like a quasar i would rather it not come in wave 6, we just got major fighter upgrades with squadron set II and CC, we don't need more yet, i also don't see it as being imperial only, the quazar was a cornerstone of the rebel fleet so i'd feel that it'd be either rebel only or dual faction, sadly the same argument goes for the venator.

14 hours ago, Forresto said:

Resurgent doesnt make sense for Imperials entirely. As similar as they are I doubt the Empire and the First Order would get a long.

But the first order was born from the empire...

Just now, Rune Taq said:

But the first order was born from the empire...

And if Kylo Ren is anything to go by, they certainly don't have "Daddy Issues" now, do they ?

10 minutes ago, Rune Taq said:

But the first order was born from the empire...

9 minutes ago, Drasnighta said:

And if Kylo Ren is anything to go by, they certainly don't have "Daddy Issues" now, do they ?

from what i can tell the first order was made from the most extreme of the empire, the natzi SS if you will, and are more focused will killing rather than maintaining or gaining an empire

1 hour ago, Gottmituns205 said:

The imperials need a carrier that can brawl more than anything...there is no afmk2 for the empire...the Venator would fill that role perfectly.

The qusar isn't what the meta needs.

Plus, it would give the Imperial side another Large-base ship, something they could really use.

I love the look and idea of the venator. I just never looked up the stats until now.

1200m

Similar (in total, but not identical) firepower to an ISD

Wayyyyyyyy more squadrons.

So it ends up being a 8-9 hull, 3/3/2 shield, 8 front dice, 5 squad value monster.

14 minutes ago, Church14 said:

I love the look and idea of the venator. I just never looked up the stats until now.

1200m

Similar (in total, but not identical) firepower to an ISD

Wayyyyyyyy more squadrons.

So it ends up being a 8-9 hull, 3/3/2 shield, 8 front dice, 5 squad value monster.

The efforts by the old customs group basically arrived here. We also had a final armament version that packed a ISD grade red/blue fore arc, and Gladiator grade side arcs, to give it a unique fighting style. The maneuver chart was a riff on what is now the Liberty, though even less agile. Speed 3 had no turn options, period. I'll see if I can find the card.

Edit: Found them.

I will also note there are older versions of that card from our work in DA's old thread (Google finds it better than the in-forum search engine) that were specced out as mediums, while the one above is specced out as a large. That distinction was the subject of fierce debate, as the Recusant class destroyer and Providence class cruiser are also about that size, give or take a gross meters or so.

Truth be told, as I read up on the Venator, I struggled to figure out why the Empire replaced these. I get the PR side of "this is the NEW," but the damned thing would hold its own with an ISD and probably win due to the massive number of squads.

Maybe a Venator/Rebel One wave

29 minutes ago, Church14 said:

Truth be told, as I read up on the Venator, I struggled to figure out why the Empire replaced these. I get the PR side of "this is the NEW," but the damned thing would hold its own with an ISD and probably win due to the massive number of squads.

Maybe a Venator/Rebel One wave

In canon, there are a couple reasons. First, while the Venator' s main battery is very powerful, on par with that of the Imperial class, its secondary armament is much less impressive than the latter. Second, the latter, not only for the listed armament reasons, is the much better ship-to-ship combatant. Notably, it lacks the gigantic target the Venator calls a hangar bay. It also carries a much larger contingent of ground forces, very useful in subjugating those pesky Outer Rim Rebel hotspots. Finally, the Venator was built to support GAR doctrine, which including the heavy, survivable fighters they used. When the Empire switched to the TIE family, they made the decision to ditch the class rather than refit them for an extended service period with the new fighters. All that make sense (even if it isn't ironclad logical)?

14 hours ago, Zach1996 said:

i added some edge highlighting its hard to tell its there

Very nice though

They were refitted for ties actually.