Death Star... Empire done!

Death Star II with the ability to blow up capital ships...done!

Going back it seems like the dreadnought fits more with the rebels and the vindicator being the Imperial ship. My reasoning is both are the same size ship with the vindicator being the space wedge and the dreadnought not.

A medium and large base Flotilla...or an Armada

Now this...Irokenics may have just hit on something. Sort of?

What if -- and hear me out with an open mind now -- what if we got a flotilla style base for miniature capital ships to form fleets? Ships that compose the fleet could decide it's speed, command dials, shields, and firepower.

Would be a bit tricky...but think something akin to an advanced form of Battleship for targeting the individual ships?

Would make it possible to have "massive" fleets engage each other without needing a larger play space.

....Star Wars Armada: Epic Scale?

...yeah no. Nevermind.

There is a reason people say the Quasar should be a Rebel ship, and that is because that's what it started out as:

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/The_Truce_at_Bakura

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Flurry

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Star_Wars:_Rebellion_(video_game)

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Quasar_Fire-class_bulk_cruiser

Yes in the current canon, it is an Imperial ship. I don't know much about the current canon, but in the old canon, Nebulon-Bs, Corellian Corvettes (okay, basically everyone had these), and even X-Wings were Imperial ships (it was designed for the Empire, and its design team at Incom defected before it was put into production). In the old canon, ever single Nebulon-B the Rebels fielded (which was many of them) was stolen. So basically, who cares if it's an Imperial ship in the new canon? More may get stolen.

I want a K-wing

Just so I can enjoy hearing Imperial players moan about the rebels got a "Fast B-wing" on steoroids, that is to OP

I kinda want the skipray blast boat. Have it be a bomber, escort and counter 1

I want an Imperial Gun Boat just to see the xwing board have a melt down.

I want an Imperial Gun Boat just to see the xwing board have another melt down.

...... As the Corellian Conflict provided us with the most Recent one

I want an Imperial Gun Boat just to see the xwing board have a melt down.

I already mentioned this actually.

No Super Star Destroyers! That belongs to Rebellion - there are supposed to be very few and commanded by Grand Admiral/Grand Moff types;

I would like an expansion to have more Mon Cal ships, but they don't have to change their points, shields or firing options; Every Mon Cal ship was unique, they didn't run shipyards in the conventional manner, so a large ship that has the exact repeat stats of Home One and Karren, would be fine, just with different looking models. Keeps Canon and assists the traditional EU fans.

I am always a fan of plasticless expansion kits, more tokens, obstacles, mission cards, scenarios, etc. That's be worth it too.

No Super Star Destroyers! That belongs to Rebellion - there are supposed to be very few and commanded by Grand Admiral/Grand Moff types;

You mean, like me?

There is a reason people say the Quasar should be a Rebel ship, and that is because that's what it started out as:

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/The_Truce_at_Bakura

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Flurry

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Star_Wars:_Rebellion_(video_game)

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Quasar_Fire-class_bulk_cruiser

Yes in the current canon, it is an Imperial ship. I don't know much about the current canon, but in the old canon, Nebulon-Bs, Corellian Corvettes (okay, basically everyone had these), and even X-Wings were Imperial ships (it was designed for the Empire, and its design team at Incom defected before it was put into production). In the old canon, ever single Nebulon-B the Rebels fielded (which was many of them) was stolen. So basically, who cares if it's an Imperial ship in the new canon? More may get stolen.

As true as that might be, I believe there is an equally good gamist reason to keep the Quasar Fire Imperial. Right now there is a clear, clean visual distinction between the two factions. Triangles vs. Cucumbers. By all rights the Neb-B should be on the Imperial roster, but it's not because it fits the rebel side visually.

I'm not saying they won't make the QF a rebel ship, but it would muddle the design space. From a visual standpoint I would prefer it to stay Imperial.

There is a reason people say the Quasar should be a Rebel ship, and that is because that's what it started out as:

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/The_Truce_at_Bakura

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Flurry

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Star_Wars:_Rebellion_(video_game)

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Quasar_Fire-class_bulk_cruiser

Yes in the current canon, it is an Imperial ship. I don't know much about the current canon, but in the old canon, Nebulon-Bs, Corellian Corvettes (okay, basically everyone had these), and even X-Wings were Imperial ships (it was designed for the Empire, and its design team at Incom defected before it was put into production). In the old canon, ever single Nebulon-B the Rebels fielded (which was many of them) was stolen. So basically, who cares if it's an Imperial ship in the new canon? More may get stolen.

As true as that might be, I believe there is an equally good gamist reason to keep the Quasar Fire Imperial. Right now there is a clear, clean visual distinction between the two factions. Triangles vs. Cucumbers. By all rights the Neb-B should be on the Imperial roster, but it's not because it fits the rebel side visually.

I'm not saying they won't make the QF a rebel ship, but it would muddle the design space. From a visual standpoint I would prefer it to stay Imperial.

Exactly. I can only see it going two ways and both include the Quasar being available for the Imperials because in the new canon, which trumps old canon sadly sometimes, its an Imperial ship. Unless the Rebels started using these ships en masse its not likely to be claimable as a rebel ship.

1) It's given to the Imperials. (visually I prefer this because of the triangle theme.)

2) Its the first neutral ship available for use by both factions.

Insanity: a kit with sprues to make a custom Mon Cal ship.

There is a reason people say the Quasar should be a Rebel ship, and that is because that's what it started out as:

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/The_Truce_at_Bakura http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Flurry

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Star_Wars:_Rebellion_(video_game) http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Quasar_Fire-class_bulk_cruiser

Yes in the current canon, it is an Imperial ship. I don't know much about the current canon, but in the old canon, Nebulon-Bs, Corellian Corvettes (okay, basically everyone had these), and even X-Wings were Imperial ships (it was designed for the Empire, and its design team at Incom defected before it was put into production). In the old canon, ever single Nebulon-B the Rebels fielded (which was many of them) was stolen. So basically, who cares if it's an Imperial ship in the new canon? More may get stolen.

As true as that might be, I believe there is an equally good gamist reason to keep the Quasar Fire Imperial. Right now there is a clear, clean visual distinction between the two factions. Triangles vs. Cucumbers. By all rights the Neb-B should be on the Imperial roster, but it's not because it fits the rebel side visually.

I'm not saying they won't make the QF a rebel ship, but it would muddle the design space. From a visual standpoint I would prefer it to stay Imperial.

Exactly. I can only see it going two ways and both include the Quasar being available for the Imperials because in the new canon, which trumps old canon sadly sometimes, its an Imperial ship. Unless the Rebels started using these ships en masse its not likely to be claimable as a rebel ship.

1) It's given to the Imperials. (visually I prefer this because of the triangle theme.)

2) Its the first neutral ship available for use by both factions.

I've always said make it an Imperial ship with a unique title to fly in a Rebel fleet.

Insanity: a kit with sprues to make a custom Mon Cal ship.

I'd say: suggest that to the 3D guys, like Mel, similar to the ISD1-conversion kit he created.

I can't see FFG making bank on that.

I've always said make it an Imperial ship with a unique title to fly in a Rebel fleet.

Its one of those tricky rules things... The Ship Cards themselves have symbols that say what fleet they belong to. And you cannot attach a Rebel upgrade Card to an Imperial Ship Card, in order to take it... Its kind of a chicken/egg dealio... You need to have the ship card down before the upgrade card attaches, but you need the upgrade card to include the ship card...

Its rules-messy.

I've always said make it an Imperial ship with a unique title to fly in a Rebel fleet.

Its one of those tricky rules things... The Ship Cards themselves have symbols that say what fleet they belong to. And you cannot attach a Rebel upgrade Card to an Imperial Ship Card, in order to take it... Its kind of a chicken/egg dealio... You need to have the ship card down before the upgrade card attaches, but you need the upgrade card to include the ship card...

Its rules-messy.

What if the Upgrade card did not say Rebel only , but only declared the change of allegiance in the effect text?

Then you're allowing a Rebel Ship in an Imperial Fleet.

You'd have an Imperial Ship card, become a Rebel Ship Card, which could then further equip Rebel ship cards ....

Why would you do it?

Perhaps you really want Adar Tallon in your Imperial Fleet....

(I'mk pretty sure the wording in the Rulebook would at least attempt to stop you, but its still what I consider rules murky )...

...

Really, the only way to have it is to have it come, rather than 2 Variants of 1 Ship, still have 2 Ship Cards - only one is Imperial and one is Rebel, and attempt to have all the upgrades be as neutral as possible - and even then, it would break the mold of being the first Ship which either didn't have a Fleet commander upgrade, or would have two .....

Or they can simply put an insert in the package saying this ship an be used for both sides. Add a special rule like they did for Flotillas.

"The rebel Quasar title allows the Quasar to be played as a rebel ship, while normally the ship is for Imperial only."

FFG can do whatever they want and bend the rules how they want.

This sounds like an issue for people who say:

"But it doesn't say in the rules that I can't overlap my ships on setup."

Or they can simply put an insert in the package saying this ship an be used for both sides. Add a special rule like they did for Flotillas.

"The rebel Quasar title allows the Quasar to be played as a rebel ship, while normally the ship is for Imperial only."

FFG can do whatever they want and bend the rules how they want.

Then, by necessity, they'll have to print a 3rd type of ship card.

One that doesn't have the Imperial or Rebel symbol on it.

Which is all I am stating needs to happen!

I just don't believe they'll do it because it has more follow on effect.

A unique ship card would be the more elegant solution.

Or they can just print 2 neutral cards. Or print 1 card for each faction and not have a variant.

And neither of those are going to happen.

You would need a new cardboard base with different coloured fire arcs too.