Worlds Meta

By Mikael Hasselstein, in Star Wars: Armada

Some info on lists for day 1.

41 player, 3 took national bye.

20 rebell, 21 imperial.

8 motti, 6 riekan, 6 screed, 4 dodonna, 3 cracke, all other 1-2

Average ship activations: 3.97, average sqadrons: 7.0.

4 interdictors, 13 isd, 4 MC80, 3 MC80L (liberty).

I will do the coznt tomorrow as well.

Good stuff, thanks for compiling!

Seconded. Good summary.

I will do the same today for second day. I will even try to give full lists for the top tables on round 3+4.

I will do the same today for second day. I will even try to give full lists for the top tables on round 3+4.

I'm interested in seeing what the lists are, thanks!

One of the main themes of Worlds meta we catching in major lists mentioned on the forms is the pushing past 8 deployments many said was standard. Both JJ and the German regional champion are the current lists pushing deployment to the limit. JJ's has 12 while German regional champ has 15.

With floatillas and deployment power as main themes, I decided to compare cost and power of Floats and squads against corvettes. The results, Both sides have ample access to get 1 float and 2 squads making for 1 activation and 2 deployments within the cost of a 44pt. corvette. Rebels surprisingly could get away with it using X-wings.

Info for day 2:

35 player, 5 bye in round 1 (4 from national champ, 1 from uneven number)

15 rebel, 20 imperial.

Commanders:

Motti 8

rieekan 8

Screed 7

Dodonna 4

Vader 2

ozzel 2

Ackbar 2

Konstantine 1

Mardine 1

all other 0

There are:

10 ISD

4 interdictor

4 MC80

4 MC80L

29 gozanti

32 rebell transport

Average squadcount per list: 6.57

Average ship activations: 4.2

average flotilla count: 1.74

And here are the other ship (just because i had time)

Gladiator 19

VSD 8

CR90 4

MC30 3

Raider 10

Nebulon B 8 (all yavaris)

That's a lot more nebs then yesterday. We only had 2-3 (all Yavaris I beleive).

I'm a little sad on the inside that there isn't non Yavaris B's.

And a little happy so many VSD's.

I find it interesting the top commanders are about staying alive/on the board and the next ones deal with crit effects.

WTF. ACKBAR MC30's

WHERE ARE THEY?

WTF. ACKBAR MC30's

WHERE ARE THEY?

If we get to were flotillas is the only viable build, I'm gonna be pissed....

Ard get your arse to ffg

NOW

Did Hero actually get paid for that

Ard get your arse to ffg

NOW

BUT GUYS! I BROUGHT SHRIMPS!

Did Hero actually get paid for that

Wasn't Hero actually.

Ard get your arse to ffg

NOW

BUT GUYS! I BROUGHT SHRIMPS!

Midwestern shrimp?

Is that like Imitation Crab?

Did Hero actually get paid for that

Wasn't Hero actually.

I had to do a double take because it read a lot like HERO and then lo and behold you are correct. I was surprised.

Ard get your arse to ffg

NOW

BUT GUYS! I BROUGHT SHRIMPS!

Midwestern shrimp?

Is that like Imitation Crab?

Indiana is really proud of its shrimp cocktails.

Nobody around the place seems to know why. Shrimp don't live in Lake Michigan. You can get better fresher shrimp cocktails on the coasts but DAGGUMIT INDIANA IS DERN PROUD OF ITS SHRIMP COCKTAILS, BOYO.

If we get to were flotillas is the only viable build, I'm gonna be pissed....

Nah. The high number of flotillas is owed more to the fact they're so cheap to take to supplement your heavy hitters. Everybody at the top has a heavy hitter or two and then just uses the flotillas as activations and/or carriers. Furthermore, two of the top lists (JJs, and I'm guessing soon to be Nathan) have H9s for a reason. As much as I hate Ackbar, he has room for a comeback in this meta. AFIIs with Gunnery Teams and H6s could shred flotillas.

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If we get to were flotillas is the only viable build, I'm gonna be pissed....

Nah. The high number of flotillas is owed more to the fact they're so cheap to take to supplement your heavy hitters. Everybody at the top has a heavy hitter or two and then just uses the flotillas as activations and/or carriers. Furthermore, two of the top lists (JJs, and I'm guessing soon to be Nathan) have H6s for a reason. As much as I hate Ackbar, he has room for a comeback in this meta. AFIIs with Gunnery Teams and H6s could shred flotillas.

H9's? H6's are pretty good, but don't exactly hard counter flotillas...

If we get to were flotillas is the only viable build, I'm gonna be pissed....

Nah. The high number of flotillas is owed more to the fact they're so cheap to take to supplement your heavy hitters. Everybody at the top has a heavy hitter or two and then just uses the flotillas as activations and/or carriers. Furthermore, two of the top lists (JJs, and I'm guessing soon to be Nathan) have H6s for a reason. As much as I hate Ackbar, he has room for a comeback in this meta. AFIIs with Gunnery Teams and H6s could shred flotillas.

H9's? H6's are pretty good, but don't exactly hard counter flotillas...

I assume he meant H9s.

Although that Rieekan Ace Holes list has two H6 Scurggs in there, too! I'll tell anyone who wants to listen those things are legit in the right fleet but they're not terribly popular on the forums anyways...

It is hard to say how seriously we should take forum popularity. In my experience, there are a number of upgrades, ship types, and commanders that aren't exactly the most talked about, but some of the very best players have put them to good use. Almost all players suffer from perception bias, but in my experience, you get a whole lot less of it out of the top players. They are keenly putting their minds to use on the problem of how to the less used commanders/upgrades/ship types work.

Info for day 2:

35 player, 5 bye in round 1 (4 from national champ, 1 from uneven number)

15 rebel, 20 imperial.

Commanders:

Motti 8

rieekan 8

Screed 7

Dodonna 4

Vader 2

ozzel 2

Ackbar 2

Konstantine 1

Mardine 1

all other 0

There are:

10 ISD

4 interdictor

4 MC80

4 MC80L

29 gozanti

32 rebell transport

Average squadcount per list: 6.57

Average ship activations: 4.2

average flotilla count: 1.74

Ha HA. I was the only one running Madine today. Excellent. And I started off playing the only person running Konstantine....

Had a great game with CaribbeanNinja and the Canadian National Champ though too!