A bit miffed at this one. I would like to have a mini swarm of tie FO's with primed thrusters to be able to sloop and barrel roll. Likewise with 3 T70's being able to talon roll and boost.

I'm certainly not buying more than 1 copy of HOTR. Guess I'll need to proxy.

hopefully there will be more in the next wave

yeah i find it odd they only put 1 in there. Especially since usually the only nonunique in a big box thats single are the high impacting ones or require a token (chutes, smuggling compartment, seismic torps)

Primed Thrustors are considered the lesser of the two techs, but we got 2 of the better one? weird....

Same problem here

Why aren't there at least 2 of them in the box? They are very useful and only cost 1 point, so I am sure I'd put them on multiple X-Wings.....

Wave 10 has two more Snap Shots coming, so I'm hoping X58 has some other HotR exclusives...

The limited quality is definitely disappointing.

i also thought that it was a bit tight to only include 1 card
since i already have 7 T70's and 2 YT1300 already i was only ever going to buy 1 HOTR box

but after the amount of wasted card on the ARC-170 that could've been used for something more

i'm not surprised

FBJ

yeah i find it odd they only put 1 in there. Especially since usually the only nonunique in a big box thats single are the high impacting ones or require a token (chutes, smuggling compartment, seismic torps)

Primed Thrustors are considered the lesser of the two techs, but we got 2 of the better one? weird....

Because, I suspect, Pattern Analyser is better suited to X-wings, and it's nominally a Rebel box. Finally handing out enough Integrated Astromech cards to equip all the T-70s you own is a nice touch.

Don't get me wrong - I play TIE/fos and I so want Primed Thrusters cards! But I can understand why that was the "one off" card.

I would like to have a mini swarm of tie FO's with primed thrusters to be able to sloop and barrel roll.

Same problem here

Why aren't there at least 2 of them in the box? They are very useful and only cost 1 point, so I am sure I'd put them on multiple X-Wings.....

popular...people want them..so only one in a box means you buy more boxes.... Makes sense to some marketer somewhere in FFG land.

AT's only in StarVipers, Twin Ion Engine MK II's in Punishers.... The list goes on.

And yet the U-Wing comes with 2 Stealth Devices.

Poe gets the best of the best stuff. Hims cute that way.

Well, so did the firespray. Which to my knowledge is the only source of stealth device right now.

Im not sure what governs 1 or 2 cards in a box. Stuff like Smuggling Compartment i can totally understand because tbh unless youre joking around who wants 2 yts in a list? lol. But things like VTs....we got 2 of those in a 20buck expansion. Thats a pretty impacting mod on a fair number of ships (ywings especially, god thats fun lol).

Its clearly not popularity because we only got 1 seismic torp in the same box, and that card is largely ignored except for fun lists. And is subject to EMuns so big deal lol.

So far im kinda salty at FFG because i originally only wanted 1 hotr but im seeing reasons for a 2nd....the addition of a THIRD falcon is the main reason im holding back.

Well, so did the firespray. Which to my knowledge is the only source of stealth device right now.

Im not sure what governs 1 or 2 cards in a box. Stuff like Smuggling Compartment i can totally understand because tbh unless youre joking around who wants 2 yts in a list? lol. But things like VTs....we got 2 of those in a 20buck expansion. Thats a pretty impacting mod on a fair number of ships (ywings especially, god thats fun lol).

Its clearly not popularity because we only got 1 seismic torp in the same box, and that card is largely ignored except for fun lists. And is subject to EMuns so big deal lol.

So far im kinda salty at FFG because i originally only wanted 1 hotr but im seeing reasons for a 2nd....the addition of a THIRD falcon is the main reason im holding back.

Stealth Device also came in the M3-A.

I suck it up and buy at least one of everything because I'm a ridiculous fanboy, but some things I'm definitely more excited about than others. This one I was not super excited. As a painter, the models are nothing to me. The cards are neat, but nothing that leaves me giddy. If I were not a completion, I don't think I would have gotten this. Maybe printed some proxies of the cards for casual games until something jumped out at me for a tournament list.

Its funny. Theres no indifferent people about hotr, either theyre like you (I paint so meh, the cards are soso) or people like me (DUDE ALL THE CAAAARDS!!!)

I used to paint a lot thanks to 40k but it also killed my passion for it after painting around 8000pts of Tau rofl. With bleach white spots at that, which i have never been able to paint cleanly without 3-4 rounds of paint, dry, paint, etc. xwing drew me at first because i didnt have to paint so i could relax lol. The only ships ive repainted is two Awings to be Greenwings (which was literally oh look theres green where red used to be) and one TIE fighter attempting to adapt my Tau scheme to my Imps (im indifferent on that..)

But the cards in this box....pretty much the only one i didnt really care for was Finn. I use T70s/TIEsfs all the time, and those techs make them sing. The new droid is hilarious on an ARC w/ WeapEngineer or Tarn Mison. Copilot makes RAC kinda dangerous, in fact im trying that today. Rey can be used for getting TL + Focus on a ship with a crew w/o using PTL, opening up a whole new can of worms.

The new T70 pilots are dope, im not a fan of hotrChewie, unsure about hotrHan right now, and i dislike Rey pilot purely because i hate Finn both as a character and a card and shes designed to work with his crew.

I had like....6 lists that needed a card from this box i really wanted to play lol.

The next TFA/Episode 8 release will probably have 2 in it... since it's a Tech.

I think this is the reason so many have moved to using proxy cards.

I think this is the reason so many have moved to using proxy cards.

Yes because not having enough copies of a given card is new and different...

Its one thing if its not enough of a 15-20USD kit. I bought a second phantom for a second tactician because it was 15USD, i actually can see myself using 2 phantoms, and i doubt i'd ever run more than 2 tacs anyway.

But the 30-40USD ones....theres now two of them you kinda need to buy multiples of. Lancer has only 1 cargochute, so you need multiples to spam that. HOTR only has 1 primed thrustors, smuggling compartment, and quite frankly a lot of tech-heavy lists want more than 2 PAs lol. My triple T70 list i literally modified to use the Primed Thrustors since i didnt have 3 PAs, but i made it work anyway (nein numb using bb8 and primed kinda bypasses the lack of PAs)

Those kits add up quick. When Tau got their 7th edition codex i honestly didnt notice how much money i dumped on that release until i was building everything rofl. Breachers ->50USD ... 3x Ghostkeels -> 65USD Each ... Stormsurge -> 150USD (got for 120) .. Codex -> 50USD .. Total: 415USD counting my Stormsurge discount!!! Yeouch!

im really, really trying to avoid doing that again. Only reason i have a Ta'unar is because tax returns lol.

...sorry for you non40k peeps this post probably went right over your head lol

This one really bugged me and there aren't any in WAVE 10. X58... maybe it is that protectorate X-wing afterall... hmm.

Well, so did the firespray. Which to my knowledge is the only source of stealth device right now.

Im not sure what governs 1 or 2 cards in a box. Stuff like Smuggling Compartment i can totally understand because tbh unless youre joking around who wants 2 yts in a list? lol. But things like VTs....we got 2 of those in a 20buck expansion. Thats a pretty impacting mod on a fair number of ships (ywings especially, god thats fun lol).

Its clearly not popularity because we only got 1 seismic torp in the same box, and that card is largely ignored except for fun lists. And is subject to EMuns so big deal lol.

So far im kinda salty at FFG because i originally only wanted 1 hotr but im seeing reasons for a 2nd....the addition of a THIRD falcon is the main reason im holding back.

Stealth Device is also in the Scyk, which might not be terrible anymore after the title patch.

Also this:

Did...did you actually run a double YT list?

Ive been trying to make one but i keep ending up with a pretty lackluster list because i have to cut things i dont wanna cut. Im not one to do the best list period but im not going to play a list i feel will just fold instantly lol

I think this is the reason so many have moved to using proxy cards.

Yes because not having enough copies of a given card is new and different...

I didn't mean to imply that it was new or different. Sorry about that.

In fact it has been something of discussion for a while so it isn't either new or different. I was trying to say that this issue has come up before and people have been frustrated that to get the cards they want for one ship they sometimes have to buy multiples of other ships they don't want.

That is what has lead some/many to proxy the cards they do use in casual play. I never used to proxy and from my OCD stayed away from it. Now and because of this very type of packaging I do proxy any card that I don't have enough of.

Did that help?

That is what has lead some/many to proxy the cards they do use in casual play.

I should apologize, my reply was more snarky than it should've been.

My point is that people have been using proxies since like wave 2, because there is always a card that people "need" that either comes in a different faction pack and/or one per pack so you got to buy multiples of it to get enough.

There can only be so many upgrade cards in a given pack, even though they may be cheap to print, there is still a cost. So there will pretty much always be some card or another that people don't get enough of.

The HotR pack has a lot of cards... 10 pilot cards and 18 upgrades, that's way more than any other package released so far, with two copies of Integrated Astromech, Snapshot, Trickshot and Burnout SLAM.

the two IA cards made me happy. I refused to buy another T70 for it because that was the ONLY card i wanted in that box, but i often wanted 3 IAs. I do have a 4Xwing list so i technically need a 4th but im kinda expecting to talk myself into getting a 2nd hotr anyway eventually.

Probably next time i get a 10% discount card at my store (every 100USD). Which would be after Wave10 drops lol...meaning i probably wouldnt use it until either Wave11 or something else shows up i want that is worth the discount (Startrek Ascendancy expansions for one)

Two Primed Thrusters would have been preferable to double snap shots.

I'll tell you what, Snap Shot is going to be an extremely niche upgrade.

A list with multiple Primed Thrusters won't be tournament viable, so this is really a non-issue. Multiple copies of cards are only needed for tournaments.

Two Primed Thrusters would have been preferable to double snap shots.

To you, but that's not true of everyone. If there were two Primed Thrusters and only one Snap Shot I can guarantee that we'd have a thread commenting about how there was only one Snap Shot in the pack.