I think a slight bump to some underused ships that are not from cartoon land would be great! I'm thinking there are a few obvious choices that should get one 'cause they're obviously experts at their ships (duh, look at their abilities):

Edited due to putting an incorrect ship on the photo list; thanks guys!!

I think a slight bummer to some underused ships that are not from cartoon land would be great! I'm thinking there are a few obvious choices that should get one 'cause they're obviously experts at their ships (duh, look at their abilities):

Look at Nera's upgrade bar more closely.

Nera has an EPT

I think a slight bump to some underused ships that are not from cartoon land would be great! I'm thinking there are a few obvious choices that should get one 'cause they're obviously experts at their ships (duh, look at their abilities):

Look at Nera's upgrade bar more closely.

Woops; you are correct. I misplaced a photo. Good catch!! ...I'm getting alser-hymers I guess, haha!

in all honesty what would you give horton anyway?

R2 Astro + TLT + VTs + what for an ept? TLTs kinda removes the need for EPTs. You could slap Push on him but its kinda not needed on tlt shots especially when hes rerolling blanks anyway.

He could be used as an ordnance boat since he has 2 torps, so EMs + Proton Torps would be a thing and his ability would love that, but then hes like 41pts for TLT, R2, VTs, Deadeye, EM, and PTorps. Holy crap thats an expensive and squishy ship lol

It would be nice to not have to run a Y-Wing with TLT, I do really like my ion turret Y-Wings for control.

I would like to see some EPTs for other ships, however I dislike the OP's derogatory comment regarding an excellent TV show.

in all honesty what would you give horton anyway?

Marksmanship

in all honesty what would you give horton anyway?

R2 Astro + TLT + VTs + what for an ept? TLTs kinda removes the need for EPTs. You could slap Push on him but its kinda not needed on tlt shots especially when hes rerolling blanks anyway.

He could be used as an ordnance boat since he has 2 torps, so EMs + Proton Torps would be a thing and his ability would love that, but then hes like 41pts for TLT, R2, VTs, Deadeye, EM, and PTorps. Holy crap thats an expensive and squishy ship lol

Marksmanship. Horton works surprisingly well with that ability, since he gets it on both attacks. Outmaneuver works well, too.

Horton, however, has access to R2-D6, so if you want, you can give him an elite upgrade.

Kir Kanos is one of those pilots who, I agree, really suffers for the lack of an Elite Upgrade. His ability to trade an evade for a hit is nice in theory but adding a hit is not really doing much more for you than spending a focus would (on a 3-dice attack you add 3/4 of a hit on average) and compared to the flexibility of Push The Limit it's easier to see why people would rather take a Push The Limit generic Royal Guard.

There are quite a few pilots who really don't cut it as a result. Graz The Hunter is another example.

in all honesty what would you give horton anyway?

R2 Astro + TLT + VTs + what for an ept? TLTs kinda removes the need for EPTs. You could slap Push on him but its kinda not needed on tlt shots especially when hes rerolling blanks anyway.

He could be used as an ordnance boat since he has 2 torps, so EMs + Proton Torps would be a thing and his ability would love that, but then hes like 41pts for TLT, R2, VTs, Deadeye, EM, and PTorps. Holy crap thats an expensive and squishy ship lol

Marksmanship. Horton works surprisingly well with that ability, since he gets it on both attacks. Outmaneuver works well, too.

Horton, however, has access to R2-D6, so if you want, you can give him an elite upgrade.

Kir Kanos is one of those pilots who, I agree, really suffers for the lack of an Elite Upgrade. His ability to trade an evade for a hit is nice in theory but adding a hit is not really doing much more for you than spending a focus would (on a 3-dice attack you add 3/4 of a hit on average) and compared to the flexibility of Push The Limit it's easier to see why people would rather take a Push The Limit generic Royal Guard.

There are quite a few pilots who really don't cut it as a result. Graz The Hunter is another example.

Emon Azzameen and every single named TIE Interceptor that doesn't have one already.

Squints live and die by focus/evading every turn, take that off them they're toast.

If I were ever to win Worlds (not happening), I would want to make this card-

Top of Class (unique, 0 point title, small ship only)

Your upgrade bar gains 1 <elite> upgrade icon. You may not equip this if you have an <elite> upgrade icon unless that <elite> upgrade icon comes from a title. You may equip a second title.

If your base squad point cost is 29 or higher, this cards squad point cost is increased by 2.

So the idea here is that it is free, but unique, so you can't spam it. This allows you to give one ship an elite slot that would otherwise not have it. So poor souls like Horton, the interceptor pilots that desperately need PTL, etc., can grab an elite for free, but only one such instance per squad. Forcing a ship costing 29 or higher to pay for the elite eliminates the worry of this being spammed on the likes of Miranda, who already see high level play without the elite. The line about not being able to equip the title if you have an elite already, but allowing it if that elite comes from a title, does two things. First, it allows the card to be equipped in general (without this wording, it would counter itself the instant it became equipped), and second, it allows Arvel and Gemmer a second elite slot, which they really need.

What do you guys think? Maybe a PS restriction so PS 1 or 2 still can't equip it? Not sure that's really necessary though.

If I were ever to win Worlds (not happening), I would want to make this card-

Top of Class (unique, 0 point title, small ship only)

Your upgrade bar gains 1 <elite> upgrade icon. You may not equip this if you have an <elite> upgrade icon unless that <elite> upgrade icon comes from a title. You may equip a second title.

If your base squad point cost is 29 or higher, this cards squad point cost is increased by 2.

So the idea here is that it is free, but unique, so you can't spam it. This allows you to give one ship an elite slot that would otherwise not have it. So poor souls like Horton, the interceptor pilots that desperately need PTL, etc., can grab an elite for free, but only one such instance per squad. Forcing a ship costing 29 or higher to pay for the elite eliminates the worry of this being spammed on the likes of Miranda, who already see high level play without the elite. The line about not being able to equip the title if you have an elite already, but allowing it if that elite comes from a title, does two things. First, it allows the card to be equipped in general (without this wording, it would counter itself the instant it became equipped), and second, it allows Arvel and Gemmer a second elite slot, which they really need.

What do you guys think? Maybe a PS restriction so PS 1 or 2 still can't equip it? Not sure that's really necessary though.

The Pilot Skill restriction needs to be 5 or higher and this title should probably cost 1pt.

Why? Wampa.

EDIT: You know what? I take it back. You can't have this card under any circumstances. PS10 Miranda is too terrifying to contemplate.

The Pilot Skill restriction needs to be 5 or higher and this title should probably cost 1pt.

Why? Wampa

Indeed. Allowing him access to Calculation would be horrific.

If I were ever to win Worlds (not happening), I would want to make this card-

Top of Class (unique, 0 point title, small ship only)

Your upgrade bar gains 1 <elite> upgrade icon. You may not equip this if you have an <elite> upgrade icon unless that <elite> upgrade icon comes from a title. You may equip a second title.

If your base squad point cost is 29 or higher, this cards squad point cost is increased by 2.

So the idea here is that it is free, but unique, so you can't spam it. This allows you to give one ship an elite slot that would otherwise not have it. So poor souls like Horton, the interceptor pilots that desperately need PTL, etc., can grab an elite for free, but only one such instance per squad. Forcing a ship costing 29 or higher to pay for the elite eliminates the worry of this being spammed on the likes of Miranda, who already see high level play without the elite. The line about not being able to equip the title if you have an elite already, but allowing it if that elite comes from a title, does two things. First, it allows the card to be equipped in general (without this wording, it would counter itself the instant it became equipped), and second, it allows Arvel and Gemmer a second elite slot, which they really need.

What do you guys think? Maybe a PS restriction so PS 1 or 2 still can't equip it? Not sure that's really necessary though.

The Pilot Skill restriction needs to be 5 or higher and this title should probably cost 1pt.

Why? Wampa.

EDIT: You know what? I take it back. You can't have this card under any circumstances. PS10 Miranda is too terrifying to contemplate.

You would be paying 3 points for PS 10 Miranda, but that would be pretty rough as she can just SLAM until the end of the game, which, she already can do in a lot of cases... Either way, could make a PS restriction and just cut her out completely.

Wampa is... Difficult for sure. Let me think on that one for a sec. I could just cancel out PS 4 itself, which would be clunky, but resolve the issue although there would be some casualties, such as Roark and a Dagger sq pilot.

Well, maybe PS 5 and higher is fine anyways. Most of the named pilots under PS 4 perform fairly well anyways (Tarn and Wampa come to mind).

Revised version-

Top of Class (unique, 0 point title, small ship only)

Your upgrade bar gains 1 <elite> upgrade icon. You may not equip this if you have an <elite> upgrade icon unless that <elite> upgrade icon comes from a title. You may equip a second title.

You may not equip this card if your base squad point cost is 29 or higher or if your pilot skill is 4 or lower.

Pilots who would have access to an Elite with this card:

- Arvel (2nd Elite)

- Gemmer (")

- Esege

- Blue Ace

- Red Ace

- Biggs (hmm.. I think this should be fine. There isn't really an EPT that makes him much more efficient than he already is)

- Hobbie

- Garven

- Dutch

- Horton

- Night Beast

- Winged Gundark

- Backstabber

- Dark Curse

- Fel's Wrath

- Lt. Lorirr

- Kir Kanos

- Shadow Squadron Pilot

- Deathrain

- Redline

- Epsilon Leader

- Graz

- Laetin

- Drea

Ya, I think that helps enough pilots I would be pretty satisfied

Edit: Added pilots effected. Also realized a PS restriction cuts out Horton as well, so went back to squad point and just cut out Miranda.

If I were ever to win Worlds (not happening), I would want to make this card-

Top of Class (unique, 0 point title, small ship only)

Your upgrade bar gains 1 <elite> upgrade icon. You may not equip this if you have an <elite> upgrade icon unless that <elite> upgrade icon comes from a title. You may equip a second title.

If your base squad point cost is 29 or higher, this cards squad point cost is increased by 2.

So the idea here is that it is free, but unique, so you can't spam it. This allows you to give one ship an elite slot that would otherwise not have it. So poor souls like Horton, the interceptor pilots that desperately need PTL, etc., can grab an elite for free, but only one such instance per squad. Forcing a ship costing 29 or higher to pay for the elite eliminates the worry of this being spammed on the likes of Miranda, who already see high level play without the elite. The line about not being able to equip the title if you have an elite already, but allowing it if that elite comes from a title, does two things. First, it allows the card to be equipped in general (without this wording, it would counter itself the instant it became equipped), and second, it allows Arvel and Gemmer a second elite slot, which they really need.

What do you guys think? Maybe a PS restriction so PS 1 or 2 still can't equip it? Not sure that's really necessary though.

The Pilot Skill restriction needs to be 5 or higher and this title should probably cost 1pt.

Why? Wampa.

EDIT: You know what? I take it back. You can't have this card under any circumstances. PS10 Miranda is too terrifying to contemplate.

The Pilot Skill restriction needs to be 5 or higher and this title should probably cost 1pt.

Why? Wampa

Indeed. Allowing him access to Calculation would be horrific.

Becomes a bit of a mouthful if you try and get around that

Top of Class (unique, 0 point title, small ship only)

Your upgrade bar gains 1 <elite> upgrade icon. You may not equip this if you have an <elite> upgrade icon unless that <elite> upgrade icon comes from a title.

You may not equip <elite> upgrades that cost less than 2 squad points unless you have more than one <elite> upgrade icon in your upgrade bar. You may equip a second title.

If your base squad point cost is 29 or higher, this cards squad point cost is increased by 2.

in all honesty what would you give horton anyway?

R2 Astro + TLT + VTs + what for an ept? TLTs kinda removes the need for EPTs. You could slap Push on him but its kinda not needed on tlt shots especially when hes rerolling blanks anyway.

He could be used as an ordnance boat since he has 2 torps, so EMs + Proton Torps would be a thing and his ability would love that, but then hes like 41pts for TLT, R2, VTs, Deadeye, EM, and PTorps. Holy crap thats an expensive and squishy ship lol

Marksmanship. Horton works surprisingly well with that ability, since he gets it on both attacks. Outmaneuver works well, too.

Horton, however, has access to R2-D6, so if you want, you can give him an elite upgrade.

Kir Kanos is one of those pilots who, I agree, really suffers for the lack of an Elite Upgrade. His ability to trade an evade for a hit is nice in theory but adding a hit is not really doing much more for you than spending a focus would (on a 3-dice attack you add 3/4 of a hit on average) and compared to the flexibility of Push The Limit it's easier to see why people would rather take a Push The Limit generic Royal Guard.

There are quite a few pilots who really don't cut it as a result. Graz The Hunter is another example.

Here, Fickle, where Horton suffers a lot is that he NEEDS to use R2-D6 to get an EPT. So if he had one, he would then be able to have another droid. Blue Ace also suffers from this, but i think FFG may have made a good decision on him. If he had EPT too many broken things would be possible.

Btw i agree on marksmanship. It's really nice, because as it has been said it works on both attacks.

Horton doesn't need an EPT, he needs a crew slot so Finn has a reason.

in all honesty what would you give horton anyway?

R2 Astro + TLT + VTs + what for an ept? TLTs kinda removes the need for EPTs. You could slap Push on him but its kinda not needed on tlt shots especially when hes rerolling blanks anyway.

He could be used as an ordnance boat since he has 2 torps, so EMs + Proton Torps would be a thing and his ability would love that, but then hes like 41pts for TLT, R2, VTs, Deadeye, EM, and PTorps. Holy crap thats an expensive and squishy ship lol

I've been running Kavil as a UBoat replacement - Deadeye GC EM Plasma OCR4 and the dreaded ABT . He clocks in at 33 points and sits behind my Party Bossk, guarding the rear and throwing 4+1 damage at anything I point the Party Bossk at.

I think every named pilot and every second-tier generic should have an Elite slot, with only a few exceptions (Biggs, maybe Wampa, etc). There's absolutely no reason why the PS4 Generic X-Wing doesn't get an EPT but the PS4 Generic T-70 does.

I think every named pilot and every second-tier generic should have an Elite slot, with only a few exceptions (Biggs, maybe Wampa, etc). There's absolutely no reason why the PS4 Generic X-Wing doesn't get an EPT but the PS4 Generic T-70 does.

It's especially bad for low-mid PS named pilots. Why doesn't Thane Kyrell have an EPT for example?

In my opinion, the pilots from the rebel faction that need it most are Hobbies and Eaden Vrill. It would make their "ok" abilities into good pilots. (I am not as familiar with the other factions.) A generic E-Wing with Juke would also be nice. All the ARC pilots should have an EPT as well (with no generics, they really should.)

EADON VRILL!

Outside of Wampa and maybe Biggs, giving every single named pilot without an elite, an elite-except those flying a ship with no elite pilots already- would benefit the game with next to no negative effects. It's always really sad whenever FFG releases a named pilot without an elite. It's almost a death sentence before they're even born. Yes, there are SOME exceptions, but those are very rare compared to the mountain of non-elite named pilots who see little to no play.

The Pilot Skill restriction needs to be 5 or higher and this title should probably cost 1pt.

Why? Wampa

Indeed. Allowing him access to Calculation would be horrific.

He could have access to Marksmanship through Youngsters ability

Outside of Wampa and maybe Biggs, giving every single named pilot without an elite, an elite-except those flying a ship with no elite pilots already- would benefit the game with next to no negative effects. It's always really sad whenever FFG releases a named pilot without an elite. It's almost a death sentence before they're even born. Yes, there are SOME exceptions, but those are very rare compared to the mountain of non-elite named pilots who see little to no play.

Why no elite for Wampa? ....probably a dumb easy reason, but I'm in that category.