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By Bluhfer, in Star Wars: Force and Destiny RPG

I love all the ffg star wars books.

These new books that need to be added

1.playable species book.

2. Monster manual type book(info, lore,stats, if rideable and so on)

3.weapons book.info

4.equipment book.

5.armor book.

It would be perfect if ffg made these books.. less time fishing around in books.. more time playing. I believe.

The character generator really cuts down on the time of searching through the various source books of the various lines.

I personally find that Sammy Hagar's opinion of "greatest hits" albums applies to such collection books: publishing them is a message that the game has nothing new to add, so the publisher wants to soak up some extra cash by getting the audience to re-purchase material they already have in a different package.

Welcome to the boards, Bluhfer! You have unlocked the Achievement: Make the Exact Same Argument that People have Been Making at Least Once a Week for the Past Four Years.

Apologies for the sarcasm, but this argument has been rehashed over and over again. It's not without merit, but it's unlikely to ever happen. Editing and printing books is expensive, and few people will be buying them if they already have the content. You're in luck, though. Oggdude's Character Creator is amazing. It's linked somewhere around here, but a simple Google Search ought to find it for you.

It would be perfect if ffg made these books.. less time fishing around in books.. more time playing. I believe.

No, it would kill the product line. FFG learned from both WEG and WotC on this. The margins on the game are thin, so if not enough people buy the "new monsters" or "fancy weapons" compendiums, you lose the revenue stream and the game dies.

Their current pattern seems to work quite well for keeping the game line alive: each book has new species (2 out of 3 anyway); a few new weapons and equipment; new vehicles; and a few mini-adventures. I don't expect they will change this winning strategy any time soon.

FFG does see the problem that producing these kinds of compendiums, and their solution was to come up with the "utility decks" accessories to the game. In general, I do not see the justification in buying the critical injury decks or the Specialization decks, mostly because there is so much player generated resources that address this particular need.

That said, I did pick up the "Scum and Villainy" adversary deck (which I think comes close to what you are looking for in a "monster compendium," Bluhfer) and I have gotten plenty of use and mileage out of them and would recommend it and the other adversary decks for their convenience factor.

Edited by Algetzz

I love all the ffg star wars books.

These new books that need to be added

1.playable species book.

2. Monster manual type book(info, lore,stats, if rideable and so on)

3.weapons book.info

4.equipment book.

5.armor book.

It would be perfect if ffg made these books.. less time fishing around in books.. more time playing. I believe.

1,2,3,4 and 5 is done in basically all of the FFG publications, they just mix it up by theme.

The character generator or websites with equipment lists make it easy to find and/or look up specific stuff as well, because they all give you the book and page for detailed descriptions. There really is no point in huge all in one publications, and while it is a pain in the ass sometimes to look things up, it works quite effective as format to sell informations. As long as an effective index and list of all stuff is avaible online, there is little point of an extra publication.

The career books come with new equipment for characters of that career and new adversaries fitting for that career players and offer new species which are especially good for players who want to play that career.

The regional books to the same, just centered around the sector they describe. You get obviously corellians, lets of spaceships and corrillian related gear, creatures and adversaries as well in Suns of Fortune splatbook.

I am happy about the collection of stuff in my Ace career book. It is highly focus and if I would not spend anyway thousands of dollars on FFG stuff, I would be happy that my character (Verpine Hotshot) gets along just fine with one corebook, Strongholds of the Resistance and Stay on Target. That is really all the splatbooks I need.

Outside of some stuff from fly casual which should be part of the corebooks (I am looking at the hyperspace routes and travel times and pages on BoSS) the system works really good to allow you to pick what you need and only what you need. It must be a lot easier to publish in that format, because you can focus on themes and do net need to focus on a giant project which still will be always very incomplete and still massive as the star wars galaxy itself is massive.

You could most likely publish a whole monster campanion for each planet in the galaxy, starting with Alderaan and ending with Zygerria. And FFG seems to be willing to do that, one sector at a time. ;-)

Edited by SEApocalypse

I love all the ffg star wars books.

These new books that need to be added

1.playable species book.

2. Monster manual type book(info, lore,stats, if rideable and so on)

3.weapons book.info

4.equipment book.

5.armor book.

It would be perfect if ffg made these books.. less time fishing around in books.. more time playing. I believe.

Considering the amount of material already out such a book would be a nightmare. The greater bulk of material would be a rehash of pretty much everything we've already bought. Those kind of choices are a beginning life of the game kind of thing. If you don't plan your line to have compendium books then adding them later is a bad idea.

I just input the stuff into a word document as I get it. Basically does exactly what you are saying but for free.

I would really like to see a "Backgrounds" book that has a bunch of additional character options to mechanically flesh out your character's back ground.

These would basically be similar to talents that you can pick up at character creation, so you might have backgrounds like:

"Veteran of the Clone Wars" that grants you Boost on using or knowing any equipment that was used in the Clone Wars.

"Served a Hutt" which would grant you bonuses when dealing with Hutts, and you speak Huttese.

"Imperial Training" which gives you bonuses on knowing their procedures and codes etc.

"Raised in Space" which gives you a bonus in zero G situations.

Stuff like that. Basically you'd be able to buy bonuses that are similar to your typical racial bonuses for about 10 XP during character creation, or even get some for free and they would all have something to do with how your character grew up or what he used to do. (A good DM can already give you boosts based on your background, but it would be nice to codify it a little)

"Veteran of the Clone Wars" that grants you Boost on using or knowing any equipment that was used in the Clone Wars.

"Served a Hutt" which would grant you bonuses when dealing with Hutts, and you speak Huttese.

"Imperial Training" which gives you bonuses on knowing their procedures and codes etc.

"Raised in Space" which gives you a bonus in zero G situations.

This is a pretty good idea. I'm not sure if there's enough there to fill a whole book.

I have to admit I already do this. I hand out Boosts to PC when dealing wit situations directly related to their backstories.

Maybe it could be rolled into a book that also has a ton of new species choices, and have it be the "Origins" book that simply gives you tons of character creation options.

That book could also include custom species rules, by giving you a master list of species traits with their associated XP costs, and then you'd start off a character similarly to how making a droid works, 1s across the board, and the ability to buy things like wings, water breathing, night vision, prehensile tail, etc. from a big list. As the source books like to remind us, there are 5 million known sentient species in the Universe, and most of it is yet to be charted, so there is plenty of room for making one up.

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Maybe it could be rolled into a book that also has a ton of new species choices, and have it be the "Origins" book that simply gives you tons of character creation options.

That book could also include custom species rules, by giving you a master list of species traits with their associated XP costs, and then you'd start off a character similarly to how making a droid works, 1s across the board, and the ability to buy things like wings, water breathing, night vision, prehensile tail, etc. from a big list. As the source books like to remind us, there are 5 million known sentient species in the Universe, and most of it is yet to be charted, so there is plenty of room for making one up.

I would definently buy a book like that.

Maybe it could be rolled into a book that also has a ton of new species choices, and have it be the "Origins" book that simply gives you tons of character creation options.

That book could also include custom species rules, by giving you a master list of species traits with their associated XP costs, and then you'd start off a character similarly to how making a droid works, 1s across the board, and the ability to buy things like wings, water breathing, night vision, prehensile tail, etc. from a big list. As the source books like to remind us, there are 5 million known sentient species in the Universe, and most of it is yet to be charted, so there is plenty of room for making one up.

I would definently buy a book like that.

me too.

Unless they start publishing books that aren't tied to one of the lines I don't see them doing a book like that. Since they currently pitch each line as separate and no need to buy the other books a book with brand new character creation options would be difficult to find a specific line to produce it for. That's the inherent flaw of having three separate lines that you market as self-contained, makes it problematic to do any real changes to the rules over all or major rules additions.

Due to how they opted to do this gaming line a lot of the more standard book ideas that most people would likely want to see just aren't doable.

Unless they start publishing books that aren't tied to one of the lines I don't see them doing a book like that. Since they currently pitch each line as separate and no need to buy the other books a book with brand new character creation options would be difficult to find a specific line to produce it for. That's the inherent flaw of having three separate lines that you market as self-contained, makes it problematic to do any real changes to the rules over all or major rules additions.

Due to how they opted to do this gaming line a lot of the more standard book ideas that most people would likely want to see just aren't doable.

You just publish a clone wars character supplement in the FaD line or even just as the Clone Wars label, one for the mandalorian wars for Edge and maybe some the force awakens one, etc

FFG seems to have no trouble to publish stuff under a label which is not direct part of any of the 3 major lines. It all star wars RPG anyway and they seem to have a licence for all star wars too.

Unless they start publishing books that aren't tied to one of the lines I don't see them doing a book like that. Since they currently pitch each line as separate and no need to buy the other books a book with brand new character creation options would be difficult to find a specific line to produce it for. That's the inherent flaw of having three separate lines that you market as self-contained, makes it problematic to do any real changes to the rules over all or major rules additions.

Due to how they opted to do this gaming line a lot of the more standard book ideas that most people would likely want to see just aren't doable.

You just publish a clone wars character supplement in the FaD line or even just as the Clone Wars label, one for the mandalorian wars for Edge and maybe some the force awakens one, etc

FFG seems to have no trouble to publish stuff under a label which is not direct part of any of the 3 major lines. It all star wars RPG anyway and they seem to have a licence for all star wars too.

If they were honestly going to go that route though ..... I have doubts that Mandalorians would be appearing in an adventure. And they've only published one thing that wasn't under one of the 3 major lines and made very clear how this was just a special kind of thing.

Maybe it could be rolled into a book that also has a ton of new species choices, and have it be the "Origins" book that simply gives you tons of character creation options.

That book could also include custom species rules, by giving you a master list of species traits with their associated XP costs, and then you'd start off a character similarly to how making a droid works, 1s across the board, and the ability to buy things like wings, water breathing, night vision, prehensile tail, etc. from a big list. As the source books like to remind us, there are 5 million known sentient species in the Universe, and most of it is yet to be charted, so there is plenty of room for making one up.

We(the community) could tryand homebrew such a book. It would be a lot off fun to build such a species. One other thing would be penaltiez, like the gands lungs. (Don't have a book with them so not sure if I'm a hundread percent accurate.)

Most species have starting stats with four 2s,one 1, and one 3, one bonus skill, and one racial trait, 10 base wounds and strain with 100 XP to spend left over.

That means the combined stats would cost 50 XP,

Droids start with 1s, get 175 XP to spend, and have the droid advantage and disadvantage of not needing food, air or sleep, but not being able to benefit from normal healing.

So the racial traits and skill should be worth around 25XP, with a point of wounds or strain thrown in here or there to balance it out.

Thanks guys for adding your views, Really :D

I was just staying when.. they do end the chain of books.. Maybe it would be a good thing to see?

it might help new people get into the game? I would pay.. meh

If the compilation books can't/won't be made, then the next best thing would be to do what was done for Pathfinder with d20pfsrd.com. A site where all the info of the books is brought together in a searchable form that would be a great resource for players and GM's alike.

There are some fan-made resources that are similar to what you describe. Some are linked from the Compiled Resources List thread in the EotE forum.

FFG doing so might cross the line into "electronic distribution," which they can't do per the terms of the contract.