1) Did it ever get confirmed that the Nashtah Pup ship does or does not take damage when deployed?

2) You gain the pilot skill and ability when using the Hounds Tooth upgrade....why do you not get to keep your EPT (elite pilot talent) if purchased. That is something that definitely should carry over as well. I mean it is the named pilot that is flying the pup when deployed. Currently, Bossk pilot is the only YV-666 pilot that even gets an EPT. So if you think about it, your not going to loose your talent just because you are flying a different ship...anyone/ everyone agree?

1) Did it ever get confirmed that the Nashtah Pup ship does or does not take damage when deployed?

2) You gain the pilot skill and ability when using the Hounds Tooth upgrade....why do you not get to keep your EPT (elite pilot talent) if purchased. That is something that definitely should carry over as well. I mean it is the named pilot that is flying the pup when deployed. Currently, Bossk pilot is the only YV-666 pilot that even gets an EPT. So if you think about it, your not going to loose your talent just because you are flying a different ship...anyone/ everyone agree?

1) What?

2) The rules are clear. You can house rule it if you want, but officially the Nashtah Pup does not get to keep the EPT.

Why "what?" for 1st question. Last I heard ...i was told because hounds tooth is an upgrade....the pup ship does not take 1 damage when deployed. But the rule of deploying ships stats you do take a damage if the large ship was destroyed.

the 2nd question was more of a suggestion... I know it does not get to keep the EPT...I would like to see how many people thinks it should keep the EPT.

Why "what?" for 1st question. Last I heard ...i was told because hounds tooth is an upgrade....the pup ship does not take 1 damage when deployed. But the rule of deploying ships stats you do take a damage if the large ship was destroyed.

*Snip*

Edit: It seems I was sorely mistaken and have made a fool of myself.

Again..what you stated was the big argument at one time....you can't purchase a pup like you can a attack shuttle. a pup ship does not exist unless you purchase the upgrade card. Many people claimed that the pup was the exception to the rule and does not take a damage. I'm trying to find out is it damage or not?

Why "what?" for 1st question. Last I heard ...i was told because hounds tooth is an upgrade....the pup ship does not take 1 damage when deployed. But the rule of deploying ships stats you do take a damage if the large ship was destroyed.

I didn't think that was being questioned... What is the justification from the rules for the Nashtah Pup not taking damage when the Hound's Tooth is destroyed?

If nothing from the upgrade card says it doesn't take damage, then it takes damage.

There are no generic deployment rules. Each ship that is able to deploy another has its own specific rules. The deployment rules for the Pup don't say that it takes damage. The Gozanti and Ghost deployment rules do mention dealing damage to the docked ships that have not yet been deployed.

The Pup does not take damage when deploying.

Again..what you stated was the big argument at one time....you can't purchase a pup like you can a attack shuttle. a pup ship does not exist unless you purchase the upgrade card. Many people claimed that the pup was the exception to the rule and does not take a damage. I'm trying to find out is it damage or not?

Docked ships take damage when the ship in which they are docked is destroyed. The Phantom is docked in the Ghosts and TIEs dock in the Gozanti. The Nastah Pup is never docked so would not take damage when the Hounds Tooth is destroyed.

Are there no generic deployment rules??

Well I'll be damned.

Relevant rules:

Docked Ships

Nashtah Pup deployment instructions:

Gozanti Deployment instructions:

Are there no generic deployment rules??

Well I'll be damned.

I haven't seen them anywhere in except in the booklets that come with the ships that can do it. The sections are all specific to those ships as well.

I was a little off though. The bit about ships taking damage when they deploy upon destruction isn't in the deployment rules for those ships, it is in the "Docked Ships" section which is only present for the Gozanti and the Ghost. At no time do I ever see the Pup referenced as being docked in that booklet..

Ok thanks!

Now who is with me on the fact that the pup should keep it's EPT along with the pilot skill and ability! FAQ! FAQ FAQ!

Ok thanks!

Now who is with me on the fact that the pup should keep it's EPT along with the pilot skill and ability! FAQ! FAQ FAQ!

The only EPTs Bossk can keep at this stage are Veteran Instincts or Adaptability.

Also I do want to add....from the YV-666 paper that came with the ship...it did mention about a dock ship rule and taking damage if ship was destroyed...I am trying to locate it now. I want to say dock ship was in the last FAQ as well, it is not in the new one though

Ok thanks!

Now who is with me on the fact that the pup should keep it's EPT along with the pilot skill and ability! FAQ! FAQ FAQ!

The only EPTs Bossk can keep at this stage are Veteran Instincts or Adaptability.

Technically, I don't think he keeps the EPT as an equipped upgrade. He keeps the modified PS.

Could make a difference if you get an "ignore EPT" damage card, or if Boba Fett (crew) wanted to knock down your PS by discarding your EPT.

Also I do want to add....from the YV-666 paper that came with the ship...it did mention about a dock ship rule and taking damage if ship was destroyed...I am trying to locate it now. I want to say dock ship was in the last FAQ as well, it is not in the new one though

I'm looking at mine right now. It does not include a section on docked ships and it says nothing about the Pup taking damage when it deploys. The only use of the word "dock" in the entire booklet is in what is essentially flavor text describing the Nashtah Pup and its folding wings.

It's entirely possible that the booklet is different in the Hound's Tooth expansion reprints.

Ok thanks!

Now who is with me on the fact that the pup should keep it's EPT along with the pilot skill and ability! FAQ! FAQ FAQ!

The only EPTs Bossk can keep at this stage are Veteran Instincts or Adaptability.

Technically, I don't think he keeps the EPT as an equipped upgrade. He keeps the modified PS.

Could make a difference if you get an "ignore EPT" damage card, or if Boba Fett (crew) wanted to knock down your PS by discarding your EPT.

Yeah, I think you could be right there. The FAQ says "If Bossk is equipped with Hound’s Tooth and either Veteran Instincts or Adaptability, the Nashtah Pup Pilot keeps that modified pilot skill."

So technically, it's just the modified PS, not the Upgrade card itself. That would make him immune to Boba Fett, but not to a PS-decreasing Damage card.

Version 4.0 of the FAQ had a section on deploying ships on page 3. It does not mention docked ships taking damage when deploying from a destroyed ship. I believe the Hound's Tooth and the was the only expansion that had been released before this FAQ that could deploy a ship.

The section is gone in Version 4.1. The Ghost and Gozanti were released by the time this FAQ came out.

Version 4.0 of the FAQ had a section on deploying ships on page 3. It does not mention docked ships taking damage when deploying from a destroyed ship. I believe the Hound's Tooth was the only expansion that had been released before this FAQ.

The section is gone in Version 4.1.

Well, that's an unusual omission.

I suppose they thought it wasn't required as anyone that bought a ship that could dock another ship, would get a rules leaflet with it anyway.

Yeah i can't find docked ships anywhere anymore....I'm not going crazy....I remember reading about taking damage from a destroyed ship somewhere

Like someone mentioned before..guess the rule is specific to specific ships...but i do remember it being in an older FAQ...oh well

Version 4.0 of the FAQ had a section on deploying ships on page 3. It does not mention docked ships taking damage when deploying from a destroyed ship. I believe the Hound's Tooth was the only expansion that had been released before this FAQ.

The section is gone in Version 4.1.

Well, that's an unusual omission.

I suppose they thought it wasn't required as anyone that bought a ship that could dock another ship, would get a rules leaflet with it anyway.

Not having those rules available online is problematic. I don't know the last time I saw someone bring those rules booklets to tournaments with them and they are not available through FFGs web page.

Thanks everyone....big help you are! Keep fighting for my pup...it should be able to keep the EPT no matter what it is!

Yeah i can't find docked ships anywhere anymore....I'm not going crazy....I remember reading about taking damage from a destroyed ship somewhere

It was in FAQ 3.2.1.

It's odd, the Gozanti had been announced but doesn't look like it was available yet.

Yep..i remember that.....that is why people went back and forth with the damage on pup argument

Considering that the ONLY way for the Pup to enter play is to have the Tooth get destroyed I believe it makes little sense that it should take damage just for coming into existence. All of the other docked ships can be deployed before a ship is destroyed and having those ships suffer damage encourages earlier deployment but the Tooth just doesn't have that option.