Would you ever take the snowies over SuvivalTroopers now?

Same points, but the stormtroopers do much better damage. They have less health but that seems negligible to me.

What do you think?

Other than the ability to self-focus, you're right, that there is now no reason to take eSnows. Unless you also want another attachment on them for some reason.

I guess unless you really wanted two groups of elite stormtroopers and some elite snowtroopers. But I don't see a need to take them instead...

The auto-recover is good but it depends on the amount of exterior spaces in maps. The new ISB Map has none, Landfill is less than half, and Warzone is about 75% outdoors. So if Blast damage gets powerful for some reason, Snowtroopers (both Elite and Regular) are still a possible counter.

But yeah, if you just wanted the movement bonus, this combo is probably better.

I've seen one unit of eSnow work really well in conjunction with eStorms to heal 5-6 guys multiple times in one activation.

So survivalist is much worse in just a plain healing comparison. I think the health is actually a thing as well, as I can reliably do 4-5 damage with several of my usual deployments essentially one-shotting a stormy, but getting 6 dmg without a unique character is difficult

la ck of outdoor tiles is also going to a problem on several maps including the majority of the Bespin maps

I think Stormtroopers were always taken over snow troopers because they were cheaper and harder hitting. But I don't think survivalist replaces snow troopers at least not elite.

Does anyone feel like the Merc faction in general has been left out of the trooper craze in general ? Is this intentional? EWing don't cut it as there isn't another Trooper that isn't a guardian to play off of for their abilities. Not without hiring a rebel trooper (which I will do since I'm not relying on the rebel care package) Scum Rangers!

I guess Mercs have an antiTrooper built in as well now with Jabba

There never was any reason to take eSnowtroopers over eStormtroopers in the first place. The only reason I'd take eSnowtroopers is because I wasn't allowed a third eStormtroopers group and the white nuns were the next best thing (for a time, at least).

Survivalist changes nothing in that dynamic.

I don't rate this card much. I'd prefer Cross Training.

Yes it makes Snowtroopers even worse, but they weren't particularly good to begin with.

The new map makes it even worse. There's no difficult terrain on that map and it's all indoors.
This upgrade is literally worthless on that map.

It's not bad on Warzone or Landfill, but completely useless 1/3rd of the time (in tournaments). So I doubt it will see much play. 1 Recover isn't amazing (Wing Guard have 2 and still don't see much use). And the difficult terrain thing is handy but very situational, and not overly necessary for ranged troopers.

If you could give it to wookies or something... but you can't.

Currently, This would only be good on Trandos. And even then, I think it's too situational to make them viable.