tie mini aces w/bomber shuttle

By snowydude, in X-Wing Squad Lists

so I have a fairly insane idea for a list that i've now put on the table a couple of times with a reasonable amount of success. it is of course running everyone's favorite bad combination of youngster with expose. but its also running the tie bomber shuttle title with vader and fleet officer. for tie's were taking zeta for the extra red die, and scourge or mauler depending on preference also for the extra red die. both of them adaptability'd up to 8. and lastly howlrunner with swarm tactics so the bomber can also be shooting at ps 8.

this setup enables some very lethal 5 red die shots at range 1 with a focus and a quasi predator. as well as the bomber being able to just plink the first/last damage on like an ace or a tanky ship. with 3 ps 8s you get to shoot first quite a bit and with a ps 2 and a ps6 your blocking ability is retained.

record so far with the list is
3/1 against rebels (game i lost po soloed the entire list after i 1 turned the A-wing and nora in the same round)

(victories against a fat han list, nora/jan hawk/wedge list, and 2 k wing + biggs thing)

3/2 against imp (lost 1 game to bumping the palp shuttle with 2 tie fighters. yes im a bad pilot -_- and the other game was a swarmy mirror where i lost to enemy green dice that could not roll less than 2 evades ever.)

(victories against whisper/inqusitor/vader list, palp/soontir/defender steele, and a decimator/phantom)

0/3 against scum (i hate bro bots,also party bus, also missile boats but thats gone now) im not sure if its my bad piloting or what but i can't beat scum with any list, not just this one.

"Zeta Leader" — TIE/fo Fighter 20
Adaptability 0
Ship Total: 20
"Howlrunner" — TIE Fighter 18
Swarm Tactics 2
Ship Total: 20
"Youngster" — TIE Fighter 15
Expose 4
Ship Total: 19
"Scourge"/"Mauler Mithel" — TIE Fighter 17
Adaptability 0
Ship Total: 17
Scimitar Squadron Pilot — TIE Bomber 16
Darth Vader 3
Fleet Officer 3
Twin Ion Engine Mk. II 1
TIE Shuttle 0
Ship Total: 2
its 99 points overall which even lets you get that 1 point bid on the ps 8 initiative battle.
i have no concept of why or how thats good but its there.
Edited by snowydude

The Vader/fleet officer mix doesn't feel too hot to me. Either you want it to be a support shuttle, or a combat shuttle. It's not great at trying both. And Vader will flame out a shuttle faster than you need it to.

For fleet officer: rebel captive or mara will punish those who target support over guns, or systems officer, Intel, or moff for increased utility?

The Vader/fleet officer mix doesn't feel too hot to me. Either you want it to be a support shuttle, or a combat shuttle. It's not great at trying both. And Vader will flame out a shuttle faster than you need it to.

For fleet officer: rebel captive or mara will punish those who target support over guns, or systems officer, Intel, or moff for increased utility?

people keep telling me that vader is the most dangerous thing in the list tho. and its not like i particularly need to use him everytime the shuttle shoots right? hes quite good at finishing off aces

rebel captive and mara jade stress enemies, im not sure how to take advantage of that with a list of ties.

i dont dislike systems officer but the only thing that can target lock is zeta leader so if he dies the upgrade becomes kinda meh.

intel could be good for bumping i could see some potential there.

moff... moff jerad? im not sure turning a crit facedown is worth anything on a shuttle.

The logic behind the shuttle is that we want to take fleet officer (technically we want to take gen hux but hes 5 points)

so that our tie's have focus on thier bonus die shots.but we also dont want to take a ship the opp can just ignore and kill later.

so we have to put enough actual threat on the shuttle for it to be just below zeta, and howl runner as the top target.

thus i arrived at vader he is quite dangerous but at the same time using him kills the shuttle. which results in

"do i really want to shoot it? hes just going to vader 3 times and itll be gone"

You don't need the TL icon on your action bar to take advantage of the Systems Officer. Anyone can benefit