What've you got?

I put a list together for fun that would use Kylo, Hux and Palpatine which I'm actually kind of turned around on. I mean, Hux and Kylo conditions might not synergise well, but it looks like good fun.

Kenkirk, Palp and Ysanne is my favourite core Decimator build, but again accept that Palp might not be the best crew here, or Ysanne. Or even Kenkirk pilot...

Upsilon-class Shuttle: · Kylo Ren (34)

Predator (3)

Fire Control System (2)

· General Hux (5)

VT-49 Decimator: · Commander Kenkirk (44)

· Emperor Palpatine (8)

· Ysanne Isard (4)

-- TOTAL ------- 100/100p. --

Thoughts? What Upsilon /Decimator builds might be good (dial depending)

My thought is RAC/Ren. RAC/Pred/Captive/Engine, Ren/A Score To Settle/Palp/maybe Sensor Cluster or FCS, not sure.

Possibly changing Captive and the extra upgrade for Hux, alternatively. It's gonna throw a LOT of crits, with Kylo's ability...

Oh that's a nice build. Interesting choice of condition card, I hadn't realised it had been spoiled and also hadn't appreciated it was faction neutral too.

Indeed. Especially as it's a 0-point card. Combine with Kylo handing out I'll Show You The Dark Side and it gets very nasty indeed.

I wouldn't bother with Palpatine on a big-ship build.

Kylo is probably better on a crew card, because if you build a crit-slinging decimator, an opponent will go for that, then take on Kylo Ren.

A Score To Settle on Kenkirk would be nice, and with Isard you've got a tough, largely action-independent ship.

I am thinking that a typical RAC build accompanied by Kylo and/or Hux on the UPS might be the way to go. Boosting RAC at PS9+ is probably going to avoid far more damage than Palp can negate. I don't think that Palp brings the same edge to these big ships as he does when saving Aces from the odd lucky hit.

Rear Admiral Chiraneau plus Kylo Ren is definitely going to be scary.

Sorry for the Necro - following the updates to the dial etc, do you think this is a viable option still... Decimator and Upsilon?

I hadn't given it any thought before, but having acquired a cheap Decimator and liking the look of the Upsilon, curious to see if it's worth saving pennies etc.

Heck yes it will be. I mean, maybe not the list I posted, but it's a powerful 4 Dice ship that has decent hard turns with a strong support ship.

Absolutely yes. RAC can cover Kylo's back and they'll both hit like trucks. I can't wait for the Upsilon to get on Vassal so I can start trying it out.

This type of list (and the General Hux crew card) is what has me the most excited for the UPS. The build I plan on trying first when it comes out is this:

Kylo Ren: 42 pts

- A Score to Settle

- Sensor Jammer

- Agent Kallus

- Kylo Ren's Shuttle

RAC: 58 pts

- Adaptability

- Rebel Captive

- Hotshot Copilot

- Gunner

Strategy is to have RAC strip focus tokens with Hotshot/Gunner combo which in turn helps Kylo Ren's survivability using Sensor Jammer. With the potentially popular Expertise, Rebel Captive is gonna be a HUGE help since it's an immediate effect once the first ship attacks you. Kylo Ren's Shuttle will add the the stress control. Combining A Score to Settle and RAC's ability gets more crits on the bored for Kylo Ren condition. A Score to Settle plus Agent Kallus could be on one ship for free 2 focus to hit/crit or split it up if I feel the need to. Target priority "should" be difficult for the opponent because of the IWSYTDS from Kylo Ren plus Sensor Jammer on him and Rebel Captive on RAC.

For giggles I wanna do double starkiller pilots and patrol leader for 40 health of large ship

Is there any 100 list that can get more HP? U love the silliness of that list. Really really looking forward to pairing the Decimator with the Upsilon.

Is there any 100 list that can get more HP? U love the silliness of that list. Really really looking forward to pairing the Decimator with the Upsilon.

Rebels can get 40 HPs with 2 Lothal Rebels and a Y-wing but I think that is pretty much as high as it can go in 100 points unless you take no upgrades at all in which case you can just about squeeze in a naked Z95 which makes 44 HPs.

35 Lothal Rebel

you can also get 42 hp with scum

trandotion slaver +hull upgrade

trandotion slaver +hull upgrade

syndicate thug

syndicate thug

Or 43 with

syndicate thug +hull upgrade

syndicate thug + Hull upgrade

syndicate thug + hullupgrade

syndicate thug

So now we've had more time to consider the Upsilon /play with other wave 10 ships has anyone put more thought into a Decimator/Upsilon list?

In sort of set on having Kenkirk with Palp, Ysanne and Predator, with leaves 41 points to play with. Flying as Kylo Ren seems smart as he's the same pilot skill and I think FCS is probably a smart choice for system upgrade, but beyond that I'm stuck.

Maybe going for a lower PS with Kylo crew is better? Really interested in people's thoughts now we know about the dial etc (is using upgrades to get sharper turns better? Maybe Engine Upgrade?)

VT-49 Decimator: · Commander Kenkirk (44)

Predator (3)

· Emperor Palpatine (8)

· Ysanne Isard (4)

Upsilon-class Shuttle: · Kylo Ren (34)

Fire Control System (2)

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Engine upgrade is fantastic forthem, and for kylo daredevil is pretty great at helping a turn too, there is also the ept that let's him broll

He doesn't need daredevil as he already has hard red 1's my man. Expert handling might be an excellent choice though...

He doesn't need daredevil as he already has hard red 1's my man. Expert handling might be an excellent choice though...

Think about doing a 2 hard then a 1 hard. Now you have turned around 180.

Oh yes, right you are...

I was thinking something like that:

Im not sure if Engine Upgrade should be on RAC instead of the shuttle or replaced altogether by hotshot copilot. Could also replace the shuttle title and hyperwave by a rebel captive or another crew on either the shuttle or RAC. Might be something possible with kenkirk instead or RAC. Maybe with a mercenary copilot to get some crit chances.

want about this

7 hours ago, HugoDamask said:

want about this

Rear Admiral Chiraneau — VT-49 Decimator	46
Adaptability	0
Gunner	5
Darth Vader	3
Hotshot Co-pilot	4
Engine Upgrade	4
Ship Total: 62
Starkiller Base Pilot — Upsilon-class Shuttle	30
Kylo Ren	3
General Hux	5
Ship Total: 38

why have two action cards with no way to use both of them on the starkiller pilot? Also darth vader crew won't proc kylo ren's STDS not sure if you knew that or not.

I really like hotshot RAC, though I think he's really hard to fly well, so tempted to try the below. The EPT might change to "A score to settle" though. I like the thought of doing a hard 1 and still having rerolls on eyes/Kallus to help against certain ships. Sensor Jammer will help him love, especially if RAC is stripping focus on lower PS pilots. FCS might be the better choice though, with a switch to VI for RAC.

VT-49 Decimator: · Rear Admiral Chiraneau (46)
Adaptability (Increase) (0)
Engine Upgrade (4)
Gunner (5)
Hotshot Co-pilot (4)

Upsilon-class Shuttle: · Kylo Ren (34)
Wired (1)
Sensor Jammer (4)
· Agent Kallus (2)
-- TOTAL ------- 100p. --

I also still really like a tweaked version of my simple list from my first post, though Hux is probably way too expensive for a two ship list, I think his ability synergises well with RAC who rolls no defence Dice.

Upsilon-class Shuttle: · Kylo Ren (34)

A score to settle (0)

Fire Control System (2)

· General Hux (5)

VT-49 Decimator: · Commander Kenkirk (44)

Predator (3)

· Emperor Palpatine (8)

· Ysanne Isard (4)

-- TOTAL ------- 100/100p. --

How about this build? Yep, it's not RAC, but it has a combat phase arc-dodging (Ysanne's ability+PTL -> Boost Action) Decimator with Hux's Card, a focus token, an evade token and an extra agility to survive. The Upsilon can coordinate and/or use Hux's Action in range 3 and the Enhanced Scopes ensures it has actions. The list handles a bit with stress due the redundancy of Inspiring Recruit and gives out some via Kylo Ren's title.

100 points
• Commander Kenkirk VT-49 Decimator - PS6 (56 points)
Push the Limit
Ysanne Isard
Inspiring Recruit
Engine Upgrade

• Major Stridan Upsilon-class Shuttle - PS4 (44 points)
Enhanced Scopes
General Hux
Inspiring Recruit
Kylo Ren's Shuttle
Experimental Interface

The other day I made and played 2 games with a Tripsilon list:

Lieutenant Dormitz with FCS and Hyperwave Comm Scanner (34)
Starkiller Base Pilot with FCS and Hyperwave Comm Scanner (33)
Starkiller Base Pilot with FCS and Hyperwave Comm Scanner (33)

12 damage dice and a total of 36 health.

The first game was versus Scum (Ventress, Manaroo, and Rau all with Mindlink (you know the list)). I tabled him and he managed to destroy one ship and take one down to half, the other had 1 shield left so he got no points from him. It was a learning experience to see how hard to push the ships and what to do and what not to do.

The second game was versus Empire (Kenkirk with Palp, Ysanne, Countermeasure, Lone Wolf, Proximity Mine and the standard Push Ryad). I managed to down the Decimator in 2 turns...turn one had one Upsilon at range 3 and the following turn had it in range of all 3 (2 of which were range 1) but he popped Countermeasures. Still managed to cause it to evaporate. The rest of the game was a game of cat and mouse between the Upsilons and the defender. He managed to table me with only 1 minute and 45 seconds left on the clock.