Hot Shot Co-Pilot (HSCP) Winners?

By rabid1903, in X-Wing

Evening everyone, I was hoping to start a discussion on potential pilots that may see considerable benefit from HSCP.

The first thing that strikes me, is HSCP will favor high PS pilots. It seems like its best use is as a "best defense is a good offense" tactic. Using a high PS pilot, shoot at your most threatening target to strip their focus token so it can't be used for offense. If you do some damage, then that's just gravy.

So, my proposed winner is Whisper. Here's my proposed loadout:

"Whisper" (32)
Veteran Instincts (1)
Sensor Jammer (4)
Hotshot Co-pilot (4)
Advanced Cloaking Device (4)

My plan is to run her alongside some Bombers with homing/LRS/Crack Shot. That way, she can strip a focus off someone and the Bombers can launch their homers in immediately thereafter. Basically making someone roll naked dice against two fully modded 4 dice attacks. Very nasty alpha strike that I intend to try out.

Other winners I can see are:

Ten Numb (though very expensive this way)

Tomax (expensive, but great utility ship; run with either Crack Shot or Lightning Reflexes)

PS10 RAC (shoot first, allow other aces to follow up)

PS9 Fat Han (pair with Luke and Predator, and do huge amounts of consistent damage)

Party Bus (lower PS, but paired with gunner and bossk it has a similar output to Han)

I'll add more winners to the list above, but unfortunately I don't have a whole lot of time tonight to dig through everyone. What do you guys think?

Edited by rabid1903

It makes him expensive but I think as a second crew on tie shuttle crackshot Tomax gives him a lot more purpose Han just passing out focus. And with only a 2 dice attack most likely it will be a complete waste of a focus.

It makes him expensive but I think as a second crew on tie shuttle crackshot Tomax gives him a lot more purpose Han just passing out focus. And with only a 2 dice attack most likely it will be a complete waste of a focus.

I could see that working, but boy does it make him expensive. Nice utility ship though, burning their tokens and using crack shot to push damage through whenever possible. I do wish he had an extra die though, which would allow him to push damage through much more often.

If you paired him with some heavy hitters, that'd work really well. Something like two phantoms, some ordnance carriers, or some defenders.

Evening everyone, I was hoping to start a discussion on potential pilots that may see considerable benefit from HSCP.

The first thing that strikes me, is HSCP will favor high PS pilots. It seems like its best use is as a "best defense is a good offense" tactic. Using a high PS pilot, shoot at your most threatening target to strip their focus token so it can't be used for offense. If you do some damage, then that's just gravy.

So, my proposed winner is Whisper. Here's my proposed loadout:

"Whisper" (32)

Veteran Instincts (1)

Sensor Jammer (4)

Hotshot Co-pilot (4)

Advanced Cloaking Device (4)

My plan is to run her alongside some Bombers with homing/LRS/Crack Shot. That way, she can strip a focus off someone and the Bombers can launch their homers in immediately thereafter. Basically making someone roll naked dice against two fully modded 4 dice attacks. Very nasty alpha strike that I intend to try out.

Other winners I can see are:

Ten Numb (though very expensive this way)

Jan Ors w/ TLT (burn through tokens, take stress to give extra die to friend vs naked opponent)

Miranda Doni (first attack burns token, stronger second attack)

I'll add more winners to the list above, but unfortunately I don't have a whole lot of time tonight to dig through everyone. What do you guys think?

Jan & Miranda won't work as HSCP is Primary only.

Evening everyone, I was hoping to start a discussion on potential pilots that may see considerable benefit from HSCP.

The first thing that strikes me, is HSCP will favor high PS pilots. It seems like its best use is as a "best defense is a good offense" tactic. Using a high PS pilot, shoot at your most threatening target to strip their focus token so it can't be used for offense. If you do some damage, then that's just gravy.

So, my proposed winner is Whisper. Here's my proposed loadout:

"Whisper" (32)

Veteran Instincts (1)

Sensor Jammer (4)

Hotshot Co-pilot (4)

Advanced Cloaking Device (4)

My plan is to run her alongside some Bombers with homing/LRS/Crack Shot. That way, she can strip a focus off someone and the Bombers can launch their homers in immediately thereafter. Basically making someone roll naked dice against two fully modded 4 dice attacks. Very nasty alpha strike that I intend to try out.

Other winners I can see are:

Ten Numb (though very expensive this way)

Jan Ors w/ TLT (burn through tokens, take stress to give extra die to friend vs naked opponent)

Miranda Doni (first attack burns token, stronger second attack)

I'll add more winners to the list above, but unfortunately I don't have a whole lot of time tonight to dig through everyone. What do you guys think?

Jan & Miranda won't work as HSCP is Primary only.

Well that's a **** shame.

PS10 RAC.

Top two competitors for that slot are Ysanne Isard and Rebel Captive, and both of those crew are amazing, but Hotshot Co-Pilot may also be a contender. Being able to strip the offensive token from another ship before it fires at you OR your ace is a great defensive tool, but it can also be used as an offensive tool, by having RAC strip the defensive token from an autothruster ace, then having your ace follow-up with a haymaker.

Looking forward to testing this out.

Edited by CBMarkham

I think any DeciVader with Gunner, Vader, and HSCP.

Evening everyone, I was hoping to start a discussion on potential pilots that may see considerable benefit from HSCP.

The first thing that strikes me, is HSCP will favor high PS pilots. It seems like its best use is as a "best defense is a good offense" tactic. Using a high PS pilot, shoot at your most threatening target to strip their focus token so it can't be used for offense. If you do some damage, then that's just gravy.

So, my proposed winner is Whisper. Here's my proposed loadout:

"Whisper" (32)

Veteran Instincts (1)

Sensor Jammer (4)

Hotshot Co-pilot (4)

Advanced Cloaking Device (4)

My plan is to run her alongside some Bombers with homing/LRS/Crack Shot. That way, she can strip a focus off someone and the Bombers can launch their homers in immediately thereafter. Basically making someone roll naked dice against two fully modded 4 dice attacks. Very nasty alpha strike that I intend to try out.

Other winners I can see are:

Ten Numb (though very expensive this way)

Jan Ors w/ TLT (burn through tokens, take stress to give extra die to friend vs naked opponent)

Miranda Doni (first attack burns token, stronger second attack)

I'll add more winners to the list above, but unfortunately I don't have a whole lot of time tonight to dig through everyone. What do you guys think?

Jan & Miranda won't work as HSCP is Primary only.

Well that's a **** shame.

A smart **** shame. It would be woefully overpowered working on things like TLT...

I think any DeciVader with Gunner, Vader, and HSCP.

Or Original Han with Luke, Predator, and HSCP.

Maybe a Bren with Lightning reflexes to always have a target in arc with HSCP. Toss in tactician and he is a token stripping, stress dealing, hard to catch PS8 ship that attacks near first. Add a couple juking defenders perhaps?

The Jukes of Hazard

Evening everyone, I was hoping to start a discussion on potential pilots that may see considerable benefit from HSCP.

The first thing that strikes me, is HSCP will favor high PS pilots. It seems like its best use is as a "best defense is a good offense" tactic. Using a high PS pilot, shoot at your most threatening target to strip their focus token so it can't be used for offense. If you do some damage, then that's just gravy.

So, my proposed winner is Whisper. Here's my proposed loadout:

"Whisper" (32)

Veteran Instincts (1)

Sensor Jammer (4)

Hotshot Co-pilot (4)

Advanced Cloaking Device (4)

My plan is to run her alongside some Bombers with homing/LRS/Crack Shot. That way, she can strip a focus off someone and the Bombers can launch their homers in immediately thereafter. Basically making someone roll naked dice against two fully modded 4 dice attacks. Very nasty alpha strike that I intend to try out.

Other winners I can see are:

Ten Numb (though very expensive this way)

Tomax (expensive, but great utility ship)

I'll add more winners to the list above, but unfortunately I don't have a whole lot of time tonight to dig through everyone. What do you guys think?

I love the sound of this Whisper build - just a point too expensive for what I'd like to fly with it - namely a pair of BOTEs with Juke, Clusters, Title and AT

I haven't flown Whisper much since the Phantom was fixed - how important is PS 9 on her these days? is she still viable at PS8 with Adaptibility ?

8 is definitely not enough, 9 is also not that much wit Rey at 10 going to fly around much now.

8 is definitely not enough, 9 is also not that much wit Rey at 10 going to fly around much now.

I thought as much - how about dropping the clusters and swapping out one of the Barons for Alonzen with Clusters Juke Ttile and AC ?

“Whisper” (45) TIE Phantom (32), Hotshot Co-pilot (4), Sensor Jammer (4), Veteran Instincts (1), Advanced Cloaking Device (4)

Baron of the Empire (24) TIE Advanced Prototype (19), Juke (2), TIE/v1 (1), Autothrusters (2)

Commander Alozen (31) TIE Advanced (25), TIE/x1 (0), Cluster Missiles (4), Juke (2), Accuracy Corrector (0)

Jan & Miranda won't work as HSCP is Primary only.

Primary only when attacking - any weapon when defending

Here's my thought: Latts Razzi/HotCoP/Gunner/Bossk. 44 points that pretty much guarantee scary levels of damage against high-defence aces, without the major downsides of stress and ions. Also works on a Slaver for 40 points, which is admittedly, a lot more than Dengar/Zuck/4LOM. But it's a powerful ace hunter. Combine it with a high threat, high damage ace like Dengar or Ketsu, you've got a nice list. Ketsu especially is nice, as you can then penalise someone's agility by THREE for one of the attacks, potentially, which is a hilarious thing to do to a high-AGI ace. You've instead I think got enough room in there for a couple of fangs, or Fenn and N'Dru.

Similarly, OpSpec/HotCoP/Gunner on a Deci. Or Vader/HotCoP/Gunner.

I think any DeciVader with Gunner, Vader, and HSCP.

Or Original Han with Luke, Predator, and HSCP.

My initial thought that it is a good combo with gunner - so these look like good places for it. That said, its a 9 (11 - if you go for Luke) point combo which is pretty pricey.

My R5-P9 Poe has absolutely no time for this upgrade...

Edit - how does this interact with Poe's ability? both cards say when attacking/defending. As the Poe player do I get to choose the order in which they activate? So could I choose for Poe's ability to go off first meaning that if I have rolled 1 focus result, i can convert it to a hit/evade so that there are no focus results for me to spend a focus on when HSCP activates?

Obviously, it's no good if I roll multiple focuses...

Edited by asters89

8 is definitely not enough, 9 is also not that much wit Rey at 10 going to fly around much now.

I thought as much - how about dropping the clusters and swapping out one of the Barons for Alonzen with Clusters Juke Ttile and AC ?

“Whisper” (45) TIE Phantom (32), Hotshot Co-pilot (4), Sensor Jammer (4), Veteran Instincts (1), Advanced Cloaking Device (4)

Baron of the Empire (24) TIE Advanced Prototype (19), Juke (2), TIE/v1 (1), Autothrusters (2)

Commander Alozen (31) TIE Advanced (25), TIE/x1 (0), Cluster Missiles (4), Juke (2), Accuracy Corrector (0)

In a casual environment, good flying can make up for the lack of PS 9 on Whisper. But her hard counters become dramatically more common once you drop out of the PS 9 bracket, and I've yet to have her live through a match at PS 7 (haven't tried 8.)

I think any DeciVader with Gunner, Vader, and HSCP.

Or Original Han with Luke, Predator, and HSCP.

My initial thought that it is a good combo with gunner - so these look like good places for it. That said, its a 9 (11 - if you go for Luke) point combo which is pretty pricey.

My R5-P9 Poe has absolutely no time for this upgrade...

Edit - how does this interact with Poe's ability? both cards say when attacking/defending. As the Poe player do I get to choose the order in which they activate? So could I choose for Poe's ability to go off first meaning that if I have rolled 1 focus result, i can convert it to a hit/evade so that there are no focus results for me to spend a focus on when HSCP activates?

Obviously, it's no good if I roll multiple focuses...

You actually can always spend a focus, even if there aren't any dice to be modified. They FAQ'd that a while back to help out Garven Dreis and Keyan Farlander. In other words, this upgrade is a hard counter to Poe. May actually see him running Sensor Cluster if HSCP becomes very common, that way he can get some benefit when it triggers.

You actually can always spend a focus, even if there aren't any dice to be modified. They FAQ'd that a while back to help out Garven Dreis and Keyan Farlander. In other words, this upgrade is a hard counter to Poe. May actually see him running Sensor Cluster if HSCP becomes very common, that way he can get some benefit when it triggers.

By Jove, he's right. This is mega sucky for Poe. Hopefully the points cost and the crew slot put everyone off....

You actually can always spend a focus, even if there aren't any dice to be modified. They FAQ'd that a while back to help out Garven Dreis and Keyan Farlander. In other words, this upgrade is a hard counter to Poe. May actually see him running Sensor Cluster if HSCP becomes very common, that way he can get some benefit when it triggers.

By Jove, he's right. This is mega sucky for Poe. Hopefully the points cost and the crew slot put everyone off....

or you can use Biggs

don't need to care about spending the focus if you're not getting shot at

You do if you want to shoot the ship this upgrade is on, though...

Epic ships are the big winners with this crew. Because if opponent want to modify dice to attack your huge ships, they need to take a target lock, which means they have no focus for defense, so your other ships can more easily kill them.

Edited by Wildhorn

RAC w/ Vader, HSCP, and Gunner.

I stopped bringing Gunner on decis purely because people ALWAYS somehow manage to roll just enough evades to not take any damage except for that 1 focus reesult they opt out of. HSCP says F*** YOU USE IT! lol.

Could also toss Rebel Cap or Mara Jade instead of Vader if you dont wanna nuke yourself. But in the current times im seeing a lot more squishy ships that are hard to hit (fangs) so i can easily kill them with vader crits lol.

Also for those wondering: you can spend a focus when you have nothing to mod. Unless you are denied dice mods, you WILL spend that focus whether you like it or not hehehe

Edited by Vineheart01

Epic ships are the big winners with this crew. Because if opponent want to modify dice to attack your huge ships, they need to take a target lock, which means they have no focus for defense, so your other ships can more easily kill them.

those are huge winners*

Note that it doesnt say you spend a focus for no reason. You still get the benefits from said focus or choose on what you spend it on. You just cant opt out of it, unless you are unable to use it obviously (Jax is around or denied dice mods).

They'd still have a focus against the huge ships. They just wouldnt be able to keep it for defense if they rolled well and didnt need it.

You actually can always spend a focus, even if there aren't any dice to be modified. They FAQ'd that a while back to help out Garven Dreis and Keyan Farlander. In other words, this upgrade is a hard counter to Poe. May actually see him running Sensor Cluster if HSCP becomes very common, that way he can get some benefit when it triggers.

By Jove, he's right. This is mega sucky for Poe. Hopefully the points cost and the crew slot put everyone off....

or you can use Biggs

don't need to care about spending the focus if you're not getting shot at

But you would have to spend it if you fired at the ship with HSCP, killing any prospect of using R5-P9. So budget Poe is effectively neutered against HSCP.