Well I'm sure it's old news by now that r3a2 doesn't do what he used to as far as using him to double stress. So my arc170 braylen with r3a2 Gunner and Alliance Overhaul is not that great so I'm looking for a new wingman for Biggs and nora. I want to try

ARC-170: · Shara Bey (28)

Wingman (2)

Vectored Thrusters (2)

Tail Gunner (2)

Alliance Overhaul (0)

ARC-170: · Norra Wexley (29)

Push The Limit (3)

· R2-D2 (4)

Vectored Thrusters (2)

Tail Gunner (2)

Alliance Overhaul (0)

X-Wing: · Biggs Darklighter (25)

· R4-D6 (1)

Integrated Astromech (0)

Pretty straight forward nora can use shara's target lock and do a focus use PTL for vectored thrusters and wingman will clear her stress.

Not 100% sure though what is everyone else flying now in the 2 arc Biggs list these days? Has anyone tried the list that was posted in the alliance Overhaul article

ARC-170: · Shara Bey (28)

Wingman (2)

Vectored Thrusters (2)

Tail Gunner (2)

Alliance Overhaul (0)

ARC-170: · Norra Wexley (29)

Push The Limit (3)

· R2-D2 (4)

Vectored Thrusters (2)

Tail Gunner (2)

Alliance Overhaul (0)

X-Wing: · Biggs Darklighter (25)

· R4-D6 (1)

Integrated Astromech (0)

Idk really just brainstorming right now

Not this again:

https://community.fantasyflightgames.com/topic/233039-r3-a2-works-no-more/

Unless this changed in the last 5 minutes, I think you must be mistaken.

Just curious, but why do you think R3-A2 is useless? Every time I use Braylen he is the MVP with that droid. He has pretty much single-handedly beat a pair of IGs and contrary to what most people say, he is actually pretty good at denying x7 defenders their second action.

Read the thread I linked. You'll get sick of it before the end.

Read the thread I linked. You'll get sick of it before the end.

You're wrong

Read the thread I linked. You'll get sick of it before the end.

I made it about posts before skipping to the end.... those people are DUMB!!!!!!

Read the thread I linked. You'll get sick of it before the end.

I didn't even make it past the first 5 posts lol...

Same.

Good lord that's infuriating.

R3-A2 takes place in step 1v. The trigger is synonymous with "During the "Declare Target" step".

Go forth and stress.

Read the thread I linked. You'll get sick of it before the end.

I didn't even make it past the first 5 posts lol...

Same.

Good lord that's infuriating.

R3-A2 takes place in step 1v. The trigger is synonymous with "During the "Declare Target" step".

Go forth and stress.

You're wrong

Who's wrong? I'm not saying my actual position on the issue of R3-A2. My point is the discussion in the other thread got out of hand. If R3-A2 is broken, FFG will fix it. In the meantime, fly casual. Play with it the way it always worked. If you or an opponent is competing with R3-A2, then let the TO make the call. If you don't want to risk it yourself in competition, then fly something else.

On that note, I never actually answere the original poster's question about Biggs. Sorry about that. I didn't meant to pirate your thread. I'm an avid Rebel player, but I never use Biggs. I would fly something else that isn't trapped in formation with the other two. Force your opponent to make a decision. If you play it right, you wind up with any enemy chasing the ARC's tails, with your third ship chasing the enemy. I've had good results doing this with A-wings and Attack Shuttles.

A bunch of people having a conversation about something that they think might be a problem with how a card works with the rules, what the impact is, and how to keep it from becoming a problem that might have an effect on an actual game is clearly a misuse of the rules forum.

Is there a way that we can just ban everyone that posts in those threads?

Read the thread I linked. You'll get sick of it before the end.

I didn't even make it past the first 5 posts lol...

Same.

Good lord that's infuriating.

R3-A2 takes place in step 1v. The trigger is synonymous with "During the "Declare Target" step".

Go forth and stress.

Yeah, all fine to cut off R4 from the game, but no one dare to touch R3-A2!

I don't care about the game, but these thuoght made me laugh. FaQ's and Errata are the holy book of the game, even if they are f*cked.

Just wait until they change again, and try to play something different. As R4, as Uboats etc.

Again, we're derailing the actual intent of this thread. I started it by being snarky. Mistakes were made.

Without rehashing the discussion on R3-A2, does anyone else have anything to say about Biggs or the lists in the original post?

Again, we're derailing the actual intent of this thread. I started it by being snarky. Mistakes were made.

Without rehashing the discussion on R3-A2, does anyone else have anything to say about Biggs or the lists in the original post?

I mean, the actual answer is that no TO on the planet will rule that R3-A2 is a useless upgrade that has literally no game effect other than being used for Integrated Astro. The tournament rules explicitly give TOs the power to overrule the rules in situations like this.

So, no, you don't need to change your list because RAW R3-A2 literally does nothing. Whether you're at your local game store or Worlds, that's now how the ruling is going to go.

From the tournament regulations: "All card interpretations during a tournament are a marshal’s responsibility, and he or she may overrule the rules documents when a mistake or error is discovered."

Technically, I don't know if the OP is referring to the snafu that R3-A2 is ambiguously timed - skimming that thread I don't see a lot of notes specifically about Gunner/R3-A2 interaction or regards to double stress, and on my own, I can't think of a reason why Double-Stress doesn't work (Gunner is specifically clarified to be a second attack). Speaking about the finer points of phrasing, would thebigeb2589 say specifically about R3-A2 and double stress if it was about the fact that (in an incredibly literally minded way which doesn't seem intended by R3-A2 or the FAQ) Stressbot may or may not actually stress anybody? We might want to wait for a little clarification on that point before we go really hard on any discussion.

I mean, the actual answer is that no TO on the planet will rule that R3-A2 is a useless upgrade that has literally no game effect other than being used for Integrated Astro. The tournament rules explicitly give TOs the power to overrule the rules in situations like this.

So, no, you don't need to change your list because RAW R3-A2 literally does nothing. Whether you're at your local game store or Worlds, that's now how the ruling is going to go.

From the tournament regulations: "All card interpretations during a tournament are a marshal’s responsibility, and he or she may overrule the rules documents when a mistake or error is discovered."

If you are in doubt, you should ask your local TO how they'd rule.

My apologizes I don't live on the Internet and last I heard it didn't work.

My apologizes I don't live on the Internet and last I heard it didn't work.

Technically, I don't know if the OP is referring to the snafu that R3-A2 is ambiguously timed - skimming that thread I don't see a lot of notes specifically about Gunner/R3-A2 interaction or regards to double stress, and on my own, I can't think of a reason why Double-Stress doesn't work (Gunner is specifically clarified to be a second attack). Speaking about the finer points of phrasing, would thebigeb2589 say specifically about R3-A2 and double stress if it was about the fact that (in an incredibly literally minded way which doesn't seem intended by R3-A2 or the FAQ) Stressbot may or may not actually stress anybody? We might want to wait for a little clarification on that point before we go really hard on any discussion.

My apologizes I don't live on the Internet and last I heard it didn't work.

It's cool man. I think some of us, myself included, probably owe you an appology for being overly snarky.

My apologizes I don't live on the Internet and last I heard it didn't work.

It's cool man. I think some of us, myself included, probably owe you an appology for being overly snarky.

well I forgive you I did feel a little like I was being railroaded

I actually think that RAW, you may technically be correct. Despite being technically correct, I don't think anybody on the planet is going to play RAW as opposed to RAI.

We have a very large tournament coming up on Saturday, and our TO essentially ruled that this is clearly an unintended language consequence by FFG and that we're going to use the droid RAI as opposed to RAW, which is what I expect any person who wasn't the worlds biggest troll would do.

Good times.

Technically, I don't know if the OP is referring to the snafu that R3-A2 is ambiguously timed - skimming that thread I don't see a lot of notes specifically about Gunner/R3-A2 interaction or regards to double stress, and on my own, I can't think of a reason why Double-Stress doesn't work (Gunner is specifically clarified to be a second attack). Speaking about the finer points of phrasing, would thebigeb2589 say specifically about R3-A2 and double stress if it was about the fact that (in an incredibly literally minded way which doesn't seem intended by R3-A2 or the FAQ) Stressbot may or may not actually stress anybody? We might want to wait for a little clarification on that point before we go really hard on any discussion.

I simply meant that IF r3a2 didn't work then Gunner r3a2 wouldn't work so the braylen build would then be useless. But since I was misinformed it's a moot point. But that being said what is everybody using theit arcs for these days other than ficklegreendice very popular list

I figured, but since things were getting a little tense, I also figured maybe we should make sure we're all on the same page.

Personally, I haven't had my ARC very long, I'm not entirely sure what I want to do with it (as I only have one anyway) other than put Thane on the board, because Thane is a cool dude. Once Wave X hits I know I'm going to try Ashoka and Recon Spec (maybe just VI+Mod) with Nora so the latter can TL+Focus without needing to PTL.

You're wrong

Who's wrong? I'm not saying my actual position on the issue of R3-A2. My point is the discussion in the other thread got out of hand. If R3-A2 is broken, FFG will fix it. In the meantime, fly casual. Play with it the way it always worked. If you or an opponent is competing with R3-A2, then let the TO make the call. If you don't want to risk it yourself in competition, then fly something else.

On that note, I never actually answere the original poster's question about Biggs. Sorry about that. I didn't meant to pirate your thread. I'm an avid Rebel player, but I never use Biggs. I would fly something else that isn't trapped in formation with the other two. Force your opponent to make a decision. If you play it right, you wind up with any enemy chasing the ARC's tails, with your third ship chasing the enemy. I've had good results doing this with A-wings and Attack Shuttles.

Sorry, was reffering to the Op