Need advice to counter this list

By Aginorh, in X-Wing Squad Lists

Hi everyone,

I am facing regularly this scums build (sorry I forgot one of the improvements but the real list is 100 pts) and find it quite difficult to counter as the 2 protectorates have high PS of 9, high agility and mobility, plus the tanky firespray is successfully protecting them from my first shots

Fenn Rau (31) - Protectorate Starfighter Push The Limit (3)

Old Teroch (28) - Protectorate Starfighter Veteran Instincts (1), Concord Dawn Protector (1)

Mandalorian Mercenary (38) - Firespray-31 Recon Specialist (3)

So far I tried a whisper + defender list :

"Whisper" (44) - TIE Phantom

Veteran Instincts (1), Fire Control System (2), Gunner (5), Advanced Cloaking Device (4)

Colonel Vessery (39) - TIE Defender

Veteran Instincts (1), TIE/D (0), Ion Cannon (3)

Epsilon Squadron Pilot (16) - TIE/FO Fighter Primed Thrusters (1)

But as a recent player I find it rather difficult to keep the phantom at range 2 and maintain the 2 small ships in my firing arc since they always move after me...

So I thought of trying this :

Rear Admiral Chiraneau (62) - VT-49 Decimator Veteran Instincts (1), Gunner (5), Ysanne Isard (4), Dauntless (2), Engine Upgrade (4)

Colonel Vessery (38) - TIE Defender

TIE/D (0), Ion Cannon (3)

100 pts

or this :

Rear Admiral Chiraneau (57) - VT-49 Decimator Expose (4), Ysanne Isard (4), Experimental Interface (3)

The Inquisitor (31) - TIE Adv. Prototype Push The Limit (3), TIE/v1 (1), Autothrusters (2)

Academy Pilot (12) - TIE Fighter

100 pts

I thought it might be easier for someone not too skilled like me to use instead of the previous.

I have also seen the post on Decimator + Ryad very interesting, but how about the added control of Vessery for my specific opponents ?

Thanks in advance !

A.

plus the tanky firespray is successfully protecting them from my first shots

How is the Firespray keeping you from attacking the other ships?

VT-49 Decimator: · Rear Admiral Chiraneau (46)

Adaptability (Increase) (0)

Seismic Charges (2)

Engine Upgrade (4)

Gunner (5)

· Darth Vader (3)

· Rebel Captive (3)

TIE Defender: · Countess Ryad (34)

Push The Limit (3)

Twin Ion Engine Mk. II (1)

TIE/x7 (-2)

Darth Vader on a Patrol Leader is a very good answer to Mandalorian Fighters (and anything else agile with no shields).

Against this specific list:

RAC/VI/Vader/Gunner/Engine.

Arc dodge the Fangs and Vader/Gunner them to death.

Flavour with a high-defence ace of your choice, Whisper is a good option.

plus the tanky firespray is successfully protecting them from my first shots

How is the Firespray keeping you from attacking the other ships?

It is just that he is coming first and occupies the middle ground, so harder to manoeuver, and the Fangs stay a bit behind

Thanks guys really helpful, I think I'll test first RAC/VI/Vader/Gunner/Engine and a defensive Ace, because I really want to have a higher PS to move after these Fangs.

Just a precision, No Ysanne onboard ? Isn't it a good way for the Deci to last longer ?

VT-49 Decimator: · Rear Admiral Chiraneau (46)

Adaptability (Increase) (0)

Seismic Charges (2)

Engine Upgrade (4)

Gunner (5)

· Darth Vader (3)

· Rebel Captive (3)

TIE Defender: · Countess Ryad (34)

Push The Limit (3)

Twin Ion Engine Mk. II (1)

TIE/x7 (-2)

This^^

No way those fangs survive RAC. Can replace Ryad with the ace of your choosing. Soontir, gives you a 2pt init bid. Or a procket Inquisitor and swap seismic for thermal dets.

plus the tanky firespray is successfully protecting them from my first shots

How is the Firespray keeping you from attacking the other ships?

Would like to know the answer here too

Edited by IG88E

Just a precision, No Ysanne onboard ? Isn't it a good way for the Deci to last longer ?

It is, but she's expensive and RAC is already expensive; the more points you throw on him the less you have for your ace, and your ace needs enough to survive alone for the cleanup.

VT-49 Decimator: · Rear Admiral Chiraneau (46)

Adaptability (Increase) (0)

Seismic Charges (2)

Engine Upgrade (4)

Gunner (5)

· Darth Vader (3)

· Rebel Captive (3)

TIE Defender: · Countess Ryad (34)

Push The Limit (3)

Twin Ion Engine Mk. II (1)

TIE/x7 (-2)

This^^

No way those fangs survive RAC. Can replace Ryad with the ace of your choosing. Soontir, gives you a 2pt init bid. Or a procket Inquisitor and swap seismic for thermal dets.

With Fangs at PS 9 shall I not go straight for VI instead of Adaptability