So I was going through list ideas and I ran into an interesting scenario; what happens when Maarek Stele gets a crit against a ship with the I'll Show You The Dark Side condition? Does the condition override his ability? Does he get to draw 3 then choose between one of his or the already displayed crit on the condition? Will Maarek Stele ever see competitive play again?

So I was going through list ideas and I ran into an interesting scenario; what happens when Maarek Stele gets a crit against a ship with the I'll Show You The Dark Side condition? Does the condition override his ability? Does he get to draw 3 then choose between one of his or the already displayed crit on the condition?

The condition deals the card instead of the critical damage. Since it's the card and not Maarek dealing the card, I would rule Maarek's ability has nothing to trigger it.

Will Maarek Stele ever see competitive play again?

Clearly you haven't bought Imperial Veterans.

So I was going through list ideas and I ran into an interesting scenario; what happens when Maarek Stele gets a crit against a ship with the I'll Show You The Dark Side condition? Does the condition override his ability? Does he get to draw 3 then choose between one of his or the already displayed crit on the condition?

The condition deals the card instead of the critical damage. Since it's the card and not Maarek dealing the card, I would rule Maarek's ability has nothing to trigger it.

Maaek's ability doesn't trigger on critical damage though. It triggers when his attack deals a face-up damage card. If the ISYTDS card is considered to be dealt by Maarek's attack, his ability should trigger. If Maarek's ability does trigger, would you ignore the ISYTDS card and draw three instead like it says?

Leebo will definitely trigger but is much easier to apply because it instructs you to draw an additional card and choose.

· I'll Show You the Dark Side

When this card is assigned, if it is not already in play, the player who dealt it searches the Damage deck for 1 Damage card with the Pilot trait and may place it faceup on this card. Then shuffle the damage deck.

When you suffer critical damage from an attack, you are instead dealt the chosen faceup Damage card.

When there is no Damage card on this card, remove it.

When your attack deals a faceup Damage card to the defender, instead draw 3 Damage cards, choose 1 to deal, and discard the others.

An extra faceup damage card dealt by Major Explosion counts as damage dealt by the attack per the Rexler Brath FAQ entry, so I would think that a faceup damage card dealt by I'll Show You The Dark Side would as well. They seem to cast a pretty wide net on what counts as a damage card dealt by your attack.

I think by current RAW what would happen is that he'd try to deal the face up damage from ISYTDS, *leave the card where it is* and draw 3 deal 1 - because it says 'when you would deal a faceup... instead draw 3 deal 1. Normally that means 'instead of draw 1 deal 1, draw 3 deal 1', but in this case, the card he would be dealing isn't coming off the deck, so there's no call to remove it from ISYTDS.

But I doubt that's the intention (it seems way too powerful an interaction to me, to potentially deal a direct hit to an E Wing or B Wing through all their shields), and it'll need FAQing to clarify intent.

If it does work the way i think it does it's a potentially *very* powerful interaction.

Nah, Maarek Stele will not work with this card. The attacker deal a damage card before the defender is dealt a damage card I would say. note, that the condition is triggered on the critical damage not a face up card. This means that even a Chewbacca may get a card under shields (though, it will be facedown).

Now, the sequence is like Maarek deals a face up card (as a part of a critical hit), he takes 3, chooses 1 and instead he is dealt 1 from the condition.

At least, that's how I read it.

As noted, I think this will need an FAQ to clarify their intent.

My best guess would be that they'll go with 'no interaction between these two elements - when Maarek crits someone with ISYTDS his ability is ignored'. ISYTDS is good enough already.

"It's important to note, here, that all you have to do is get the critical hit past your opponent's defense dice and tokens. So long as the damage isn't cancelled, it is suffered, and while the damage your opponent's ship suffers would normally apply first to its shields—if it has any—I'll Show You the Dark Side alters the standard effect. The critical damage isn't suffered as the removal of a shield token or as a card drawn and revealed faceup from the damage deck; the damage is simply suffered as the faceup critical hit stored on I'll Show You the Dark Side."

https://www.fantasyflightgames.com/en/news/2016/10/24/fanatical-devotion/

That's from the preview article. This MAY mean that the victim just has to eat what's there. However, when I look at the condition card it states that victim is "dealt" the card from the condition. We'll have to wait and see on this one, I think.

"It's important to note, here, that all you have to do is get the critical hit past your opponent's defense dice and tokens. So long as the damage isn't cancelled, it is suffered, and while the damage your opponent's ship suffers would normally apply first to its shields—if it has any—I'll Show You the Dark Side alters the standard effect. The critical damage isn't suffered as the removal of a shield token or as a card drawn and revealed faceup from the damage deck; the damage is simply suffered as the faceup critical hit stored on I'll Show You the Dark Side."

https://www.fantasyflightgames.com/en/news/2016/10/24/fanatical-devotion/

That's from the preview article. This MAY mean that the victim just has to eat what's there. However, when I look at the condition card it states that victim is "dealt" the card from the condition. We'll have to wait and see on this one, I think.

Taking into consideration volume of rules mistakes made in preview articles, I would not use this as a reliable source of information in this matter (although, I really like those previews ).

Theres 3 ways this could be viewed.

1) Maarek Stele is not the usual crit effect. Since there is no usual crit effect, the Kylo condition doesnt even trigger at all.

2) Maarek Stele's ability still happens, only the faceup card is included in the 3 cards he picks from.

3) Kylo's card, being special and unique, overrides Maarek's ability entirely.

Tbh i could see the first one being the one that gets ruled for. Maarek is already manipulating the usual crit effect.

But, it does need a faq, as i could see all 3 of these being a valid argument.

Tbh i could see the first one being the one that gets ruled for. Maarek is already manipulating the usual crit effect.

Minor nitpick: Maarek's ability affects dealing face up cards, not crits.

In the case of Maarek's ability and ISYTDS, Maarek's ability is triggered by dealing the card from ISTDS.

I think we've got 4 things that could happen here:

1. ISTDS counts as the source of the dealt card instead of Maarek's attack. Maarek's ability doesn't even trigger.

2. Maarek's ability draws three cards and deals the one of his choice. The ISTDS card is left on the condition.

3. Maarek's ability draws three cards and deals the one of his choice. The ISTDS card is discarded.

4. Maarek's ability draws three cards and deals the one of his choice. The ISTDS card is also dealt.

Also valid.

im actively avoiding that interaction until its faq'd when we get the UPS because its just way too open for debate.

Tbh i could see the first one being the one that gets ruled for. Maarek is already manipulating the usual crit effect.

Minor nitpick: Maarek's ability affects dealing face up cards, not crits.

In the case of Maarek's ability and ISYTDS, Maarek's ability is triggered by dealing the card from ISTDS.

I think we've got 4 things that could happen here:

1. ISTDS counts as the source of the dealt card instead of Maarek's attack. Maarek's ability doesn't even trigger.

2. Maarek's ability draws three cards and deals the one of his choice. The ISTDS card is left on the condition.

3. Maarek's ability draws three cards and deals the one of his choice. The ISTDS card is discarded.

4. Maarek's ability draws three cards and deals the one of his choice. The ISTDS card is also dealt.

5. Maarek's ability draws two cards from the deck and third one from the ISTDS card and deals one.

Because normally, when he deals a face up, instead of drawing 1 he draws 3 - it is never like takes one, nah, let's take another 3. Therefore, you need to take the first which "allows" you to take additional two. After above discussion I think that the nr5 is the most possible.

Or there will be no interaction at all (due to different triggers).

I think the timing goes like this. ISYTDS triggers first, on suffering critical damage. The chosen pilot crit is dealt face up and triggers Maarek's ability.

It's very unclear to me whether the ISYTDS damage is one of three Maarek can choose from, or if it's replaced by the 'draw 3' instruction. If the latter, it's still unclear whether it should remain on the ISYTDS condition card, or is discarded because it had been removed from the condition card when it triggered Maarek.

I can imagine 2, 3 or 5 being correct. I like 5 best.

Ah... I forgot about the wording...

ISYTDS says: "When you suffer critical damage from an attack, you are instead dealt the chosen faceup Damage card."

The pilot skill is: "When your attack deals a faceup damage card to the defender, instead draw 3 Damage cards, choose 1 and discard the others."

Therefore, the green part seems like should be maybe replaced with the red part which is a pity imho I see no reason, why you would discard the card on ISYTDS. Please, get a mail ruling on that (at least!)...

They don't usually provide rules answers to unreleased cards. But this

Ah... I forgot about the wording...

ISYTDS says: "When you suffer critical damage from an attack, you are instead dealt the chosen faceup Damage card."

The pilot skill is: "When your attack deals a faceup damage card to the defender, instead draw 3 Damage cards, choose 1 and discard the others."

Therefore, the green part seems like should be maybe replaced with the red part which is a pity imho I see no reason, why you would discard the card on ISYTDS. Please, get a mail ruling on that (at least!)...

Seems like the most RAW-correct answer to me (note the minor change in where the text colour is...).

When you deal crit damage an IWSYTDS ship with Maarek, what happens is that the card stays on IWSYTDS and Maarek draws 3 from the opposing damage deck and chooses one to apply directly to that ship's hull, bypassing shields.

This seems RAW-correct, and is a VERY powerful interaction.

BUT:

It takes a bare minimum of 19 points (Scimitar TIE Shuttle/Kylo Crew) plus 33 points (Maarek/x7) to pull off - i.e. more than half your list - and it still relies on Maarek getting a crit and getting it through evade dice, and the enemy still having shields, to be meaningful. So it's HUGELY expensive and still not all that likely to happen.

So if that RAW is used... it's powerful but it's probably not a lot more powerful than many other possible 52+ point two-ship combos. For instance, for the same price you can get two crack shot GSVs with Homing Missiles, which have a very good chance of just... killing that same E Wing or B Wing in a single volley. And (without Extra Munitions) cost 2 points less...

I'm definitely in the camp of RAW Maarek's critical damage draws 3 cards, applies one, and the condition crit is left untouched. While expensive this seems pretty crazy since it would mean that every critical damage Maarek deals ignores shields. Against ships with a hefty amount of shields and low agility (bwings, most large based ships) this seems really strong. Also seems very good against regen ships that aren't very dodgy (nora, miranda). I am uncertain how they can handle it without just disqualifying Maarek's ability for that condition card via hard FAQ.

I'm definitely in the camp of RAW Maarek's critical damage draws 3 cards, applies one, and the condition crit is left untouched. While expensive this seems pretty crazy since it would mean that every critical damage Maarek deals ignores shields. Against ships with a hefty amount of shields and low agility (bwings, most large based ships) this seems really strong. Also seems very good against regen ships that aren't very dodgy (nora, miranda). I am uncertain how they can handle it without just disqualifying Maarek's ability for that condition card via hard FAQ.

As noted, it costs a bare minimum of 52 points to pull off, it SHOULD be good.

As noted, it costs a bare minimum of 52 points to pull off, it SHOULD be good.

I mean it can be brought down to 48 points which generates crits fairly consistently (tie shuttle and tie advanced maarek with x1, atc, calculation) but point taken.

doubt we'll get anything until the UPS is released. FFG far as i know hasnt FAQ'd or Emailed any answers about unreleased products.

doubt we'll get anything until the UPS is released. FFG far as i know hasnt FAQ'd or Emailed any answers about unreleased products.

They've even said as much in the past.