Give it a try on a Hawk... preferably with Ventress around.

The Hawk, with its all annoying TLT, was always a good support ship in my book, but both Palob and Torkil had the nasty habit of dying too quickly (when an opponent realized how dangerous they could be in the long run).

With Latts Razzi (crew), however, a Hawk can survive a long time and a remain a constant pain in the binary circuits! Give it a try; you'll be pleasantly surprised

You need something throwing out stress reliably for it to be worth the investment, but when it is, it really, really is. I know I've been firmly persuaded by experience that removing the stress isn't nearly as big a problem as I thought it would be compared to the benefit.

I would rate Latts Razzi crew as better than C-3PO for 1 less point.

Wait, who says Latts Razzi is terrible?

Wait, who says Latts Razzi is terrible?

Personally, I'd always thought that removing the stress was way too big a cost for the benefit.

I've learned differently from experience.

You need something throwing out stress reliably for it to be worth the investment...

Not always. Sometimes it's just a solid meta pick.

The meta right now is heavily PtL users, Party Buses and Dengaroo, etc. Even Crack Swarms will clip debris or pull K-Turns occasionally, and Ghosts love Hera and Chopper.

If the upgrade is solid in 2 out of 3 matches in a tournament because of the environment in the meta, and you have enough game to deal with non-Dengaroo, non-PtL lists without that crew slot doing work, then Latts can still be a solid pick even if you can't guarantee it's effectiveness in an individual match.

Latts Razzi + Rebel Captive = yet another reason cross-factioning in the game is not allowed

I agree with "on a HWK," but for all the Green on an Unhinged Dengar, K4 is superior.

I never got the impression that people thought that Latts was a terrible crew. It's just that most scum ships are limited to a single crew so it's hard to prioritize Latts over one of the other strong options for that slot.

The only reason I don't run latts crew is because I'm running her as a pilot, but I do try to squeeze her in if I have the spare crew slots now

I'm also thinking about putting Latts Razzi instead of Gonk on Manaroo in Dengaroo.

Latts costs no action to use and is 1 point cheaper (giving you 2 poonts to play with, for either bigger Init bid or maybe a Seismic Torpedo on Manaroo).

Between the fact that Dengaroo brings 3 Debris and the fact that many ships that can catch up to Manaroo run PtL it might also get you better results than Gonk.

What do you think ?

I have used Latts on Bossk + Daredevil + EU + K4 successfully. Paired him with Ventress to hand out the stress. Gives Bossk another 3 or so health per game. Think Latts is awesome in the current Meta. Especially with Party Bus and Dengaroo everywhere.

Below is my fun list I bring to casual night. So much fun bringing aces down to PS0 and having my slavers pound on them. Torkhil stays behind the gunner slaver for jammer bonus, plus Latts. Gives Tork 3/4 dice plus evade.

TORKHIL'S TRANSPORT CO.

100 points

PILOTS

Torkhil Mux (27)
HWK-290 (19), Twin Laser Turret (6), Latts Razzi (2)

Trandoshan Slaver (34)
YV-666 (29), Dengar (3), 4-LOM (1), Zuckuss (1)

Trandoshan Slaver (39)
YV-666 (29), Gunner (5), Bossk (2), Tactician (2), Tactical Jammer (1)

Honestly, she's not worth it, in a competitive setting, if you don't have a way of giving stress. There are plenty of lists that DON'T utilize stress as a mechanic, so you're wasting an extremely valuable crew spot (specifically considering Scum's crew options) on a "maybe" upgrade.

WITH a stress giver, she's a gorram uber beast. I personally love her on Ventress, because a PtL Ventress can almost guarantee she's going to tag her opponent with stress.

I like the idea of taking her on a HWK, but the only HWK that interests me is Palob, and he's already causing PtL players to skip using PtL... So I still want a stress chucker with him.

WITH a stress giver, she's a gorram uber beast. I personally love her on Ventress, because a PtL Ventress can almost guarantee she's going to tag her opponent with stress.

Ventress works too well with Dengar IMO for Latts to be worth using. It's giving you some extra defense, but you're dropping your offense a lot on a ship that's already suffering from low-ish offense. Since Target Locks are rather hard to acquire at PS6 vs many lists, the best you can do offensively is 3 dice with focus (+ range mods). There are plenty of lists (like Aces or Defenders, although vs. Defenders it's easier to get Target locks) that aren't bothered too much by that little firepower.

You need something throwing out stress reliably for it to be worth the investment...

Not always. Sometimes it's just a solid meta pick.

The meta right now is heavily PtL users, Party Buses and Dengaroo, etc. Even Crack Swarms will clip debris or pull K-Turns occasionally, and Ghosts love Hera and Chopper.

If the upgrade is solid in 2 out of 3 matches in a tournament because of the environment in the meta, and you have enough game to deal with non-Dengaroo, non-PtL lists without that crew slot doing work, then Latts can still be a solid pick even if you can't guarantee it's effectiveness in an individual match.

I honestly disagree. With Pattern Analyser coming and traditional PTL imperial aces being forced out in favour of defenders, and fangsaroo being the current meta bugbear scum list, I really don't think stress is all that prevalent.

I honestly disagree. With Pattern Analyser coming and traditional PTL imperial aces being forced out in favour of defenders, and fangsaroo being the current meta bugbear scum list, I really don't think stress is all that prevalent.

Must be a regional thing.

Where I'm from, Defender are sometimes red and PtL like nobody's business while making green 5-Ks.

No one says Latts Razzi is horrible. Do not make fake statements to "promote" your thread

In the right list she is a beast. On the right ship (Assaj) I don't play anything else.

I would rate Latts Razzi crew as better than C-3PO for 1 less point.

Agreed!

And it makes me wonder, why another upgrade that adds Evade results that ALSO combos with Evade tokens...

Didnt we all tell FFG that THIS (auto 2 evades) was what we hated about Fat Han? And its even usable more than once per round! Oh the humanity! Haha.

No one says Latts Razzi is horrible. Do not make fake statements to "promote" your thread

I'm ready to bet the house that someone, somewhere said, quote "I think Latts [crew] [is] horrible" and if you don't think so, you're [something] - because a user in this very thread (ArbitraryNerd) said he she's "not worth it" in certain settings. Don't make fake statements to "promote" your wrong statements.

Anyway, for 1 point, throw her on a Slaver. Like someone said above, it is not an edge-case where an enemy will be stressed (be it of their own volition or not) and attacking. Free evade. And in my example, the Slaver is less concerned with your ability to make white moves as it concerned with make 3-hard turns and getting half the mat in-arc.

But, nah, not horrible.

No one says Latts Razzi is horrible. Do not make fake statements to "promote" your thread

I'm ready to bet the house that someone, somewhere said, quote "I think Latts [crew] [is] horrible" and if you don't think so, you're [something] - because a user in this very thread (ArbitraryNerd) said he she's "not worth it" in certain settings. Don't make fake statements to "promote" your wrong statements.

Anyway, for 1 point, throw her on a Slaver. Like someone said above, it is not an edge-case where an enemy will be stressed (be it of their own volition or not) and attacking. Free evade. And in my example, the Slaver is less concerned with your ability to make white moves as it concerned with make 3-hard turns and getting half the mat in-arc.

But, nah, not horrible.

Not being worth it and "being horrible" are two different things.

And I stand by my reasoning -- your slaver would get more use out of the standard party bus array of crew, and Latts is taking a spot from them... And may never trigger.

Engine Upgrade is great card -- I certainly wouldn't take it over Autothrusters, or on a cheapo blocker, or on a Palp Shuttle.

And there was a thread, back when she was announced, where some rando did say she was garbage. 'Course, if memory serves, everyone who saw the obvious Ventress combo realized that wouldn't be the case.

And there was a thread, back when she was announced, where some rando did say she was garbage.

Not sure why whoever made this gif thought it needed to move.

She's definitely good on Assaj Ventress. The ability to hand out stress reliably on a ship that's probably already pulling focus/evade and has 2 green dice at its disposal makes it a right bugger to hit.

I always run Asajj with Lone Wolf and Latts. They make her a real pain in the butt to kill. Then add BMST and either Burnout SLAM or Rigged Chute for extra frustration.

She's definitely good on Assaj Ventress. The ability to hand out stress reliably on a ship that's probably already pulling focus/evade and has 2 green dice at its disposal makes it a right bugger to hit.

She's extremely good on Latts. I've not seen her on anything else yet, mostly because I still think you do need some means of passing stress to your opponent reliably for her to be worth taking. Using her as PTL/k-turn/zuckuss insurance just isn't quite the same, though she is a good counter to Zuckuss.