With the new FAQ stating that you can't hide information and answer questions honestly, if a player asks to see an opponent's dial(obviously before they set a maneuver) to see all the possible maneuvers the ship can do, is the opponent obligated to do so?

An unassigned dial is Open Information, because it is information about the ship, and because your opponent may verify the legality of anything in your build. An assigned dial is Hidden Information.

With the new FAQ stating that you can't hide information and answer questions honestly, if a player asks to see an opponent's dial(obviously before they set a maneuver) to see all the possible maneuvers the ship can do, is the opponent obligated to do so?

That or provide the information in some other way (maneuver reference, etc).

That or provide the information in some other way (maneuver reference, etc).

This is an excellent reason to keep the maneuver reference charts for all the ships you buy, as only the official ones are permitted in competitive play.

That or provide the information in some other way (maneuver reference, etc).

This is an excellent reason to keep the maneuver reference charts for all the ships you buy, as only the official ones are permitted in competitive play.

Myth. The "outside references" rule doesn't prevent you from using consolidated references, as long as the information in them is the same as what's contained in the official products, without any additions.

With the new FAQ stating that you can't hide information and answer questions honestly, if a player asks to see an opponent's dial(obviously before they set a maneuver) to see all the possible maneuvers the ship can do, is the opponent obligated to do so?

That or provide the information in some other way (maneuver reference, etc).

Interesting. My local Xwing Facebook group is in disagreement. Multiple people are claiming that during a tournament you can ask but the opponent can decline because "you can look it up yourself." Which seems bogus. Guess I will just have to call for a TO if that ever happens.

That or provide the information in some other way (maneuver reference, etc).

This is an excellent reason to keep the maneuver reference charts for all the ships you buy, as only the official ones are permitted in competitive play.

Myth. The "outside references" rule doesn't prevent you from using consolidated references, as long as the information in them is the same as what's contained in the official products, without any additions.

There is no mention of any authorized "consolidated references" in the rule. As written the Tournament Regulation is pretty clear; players may reference official rule documents. Official rule documents are defined, and there is no third party compilation in that definition.

FFG stated via social media shortly after that rules update went out that maneuver lists were acceptable provided it was solely a list of available maneuvers. You couldn't print out the first seven or eight maneuvers you'd planned out for your squad, for example.

Could you provide a link to the social media post?

Oh geez, I have no idea. This was back at least one FAQ ago.

But it's common sense. The game has been out since 2012. They can't turn around in 2015/2016 and say, "Hey, you know those package inserts you threw away with all the maneuvers on them? Well, too bad, only legal maneuver reference now."

http://sirwillibald.com/x-wing-minimaneuvercards-v5-0/

They are pretty much the same as the ones that come in the box. If I played anyone (outside of a tournament) that would not allow these I'd just stop playing with them.

As a TO who believes in following the rules and common sense I allow these for tournaments.

Oh geez, I have no idea. This was back at least one FAQ ago.

But it's common sense. The game has been out since 2012. They can't turn around in 2015/2016 and say, "Hey, you know those package inserts you threw away with all the maneuvers on them? Well, too bad, only legal maneuver reference now."

On the plus side, I did keep one copy of each ship maneuver insert going right back to game release in 2012... so I'm golden.

Dumb question related to "Open information" under the newest FAQ. What about your ship builds (pilots, ordnance, upgrade cards, etc.). Can you opponent come over and inspect your builds at any time during the game? The FAQ states that "discarded upgrade cards" are open information. This could be interpreted to mean that all other upgrade cards in play are NOT open information. Thoughts?

Dumb question related to "Open information" under the newest FAQ. What about your ship builds (pilots, ordnance, upgrade cards, etc.). Can you opponent come over and inspect your builds at any time during the game? The FAQ states that "discarded upgrade cards" are open information. This could be interpreted to mean that all other upgrade cards in play are NOT open information. Thoughts?

There is no need to specify that normal upgrades are open information since they are face up cards on the table. The reason to specify discarded cards is because those are flipped face down (or placed under the ship card in the case of dual sided upgrades).

Dumb question related to "Open information" under the newest FAQ. What about your ship builds (pilots, ordnance, upgrade cards, etc.). Can you opponent come over and inspect your builds at any time during the game? The FAQ states that "discarded upgrade cards" are open information. This could be interpreted to mean that all other upgrade cards in play are NOT open information. Thoughts?

It could be interpreted that way if you wanted to be obtuse.

Pretty much all cards in play are Face-up which means all of the information on them is common public knowledge that can not be hidden in any way. If you consider that in some arenas players could easily walk around the table as they played having someone "come over and look at your squadron" shouldn't cause any issues. The only reason the FAQ makes any note about the "discarded" cards is because they should still be public information even if they are not currently actively involved in the game.

Also keep in mind the rules about hidden information have been added basically verbatim to all their organized play games. Most of it is for their card games and doesn't really apply to X-Wing much. Placed dials are hidden from an opponent and the order of cards in a damage deck is hidden from everyone. That's about it in X-Wing.

Just keep that in mind if there's some stuff in there that seems a bit out of place, because it probably IS a bit out of place. Don't get caught up trying to twist it to try and make it apply to something it shouldn't just to make it fit in the game better.

In my view, people can ask me pretty much anything that I know the answer to and I'll tell them the answer - with the obvious exception of what move I've planned. Things like upgrades, specific ships and things like if Corran has double tapped are all fair game to know.

Similarly, whilst no-one knows the wording of face down damage cards that have been dealt, face up ones are for everyone to know.

AFAIK, the only hidden information in this is game is your planned move and what action you plan to take.

In my view, people can ask me pretty much anything that I know the answer to and I'll tell them the answer - with the obvious exception of what move I've planned. Things like upgrades, specific ships and things like if Corran has double tapped are all fair game to know.

Similarly, whilst no-one knows the wording of face down damage cards that have been dealt, face up ones are for everyone to know.

AFAIK, the only hidden information in this is game is your planned move and what action you plan to take.

What action you plan to take it completely unimportant. You don't finalize that until you actually TAKE a given action at which point it becomes public knowledge to everyone including yourself as you could have changed it up until that point. Just saying

I will take exception when it comes to damage cards. The FULL contents of a damage deck is public information and can be checked at the beginning of the game; this also means that the effect of each card should be known. The ORDER of those cards within the deck should be randomized and thus unknown to everyone. Cards that are dealt face-down, and stay face down, are as unknown as the next card in the damage deck until such a time that the ship is destroyed and they are put in the discard pile at which time they become knowns. Cards that are dealt or flipped face-up become public knowledge; this knowledge should remain even if a card is flipped face-down but I believe all effects that will flip a face-down card up require a random selection from all of a ship's face-down cards so if there is only one card you may know what will be flipped over.

The only hidden information in X-Wing is the unrevealed maneuver dial setting and which specific damage card an unrevealed damage card is.

I seem to recall that there is actually a line somewhere that says that you must have the dial rules reference sheet available to show your opponent. I also seem to recall that nobody follows that rule, and most of those who are even aware of it don't think it is binding.

I just checked my maneuver reference inserts, and they say: "Keep this sheet on hand so that players can reference this table at any time." It's not phrased as a "you must" or anything, but it also doesn't leave any room for not doing it.

I seem to recall that there is actually a line somewhere that says that you must have the dial rules reference sheet available to show your opponent. I also seem to recall that nobody follows that rule, and most of those who are even aware of it don't think it is binding.

I just checked my maneuver reference inserts, and they say: "Keep this sheet on hand so that players can reference this table at any time." It's not phrased as a "you must" or anything, but it also doesn't leave any room for not doing it.

No, there's no rule that says you have to provide dial reference - but if they ask, I think you do have to show them an unset dial for your ship. THey're obv. not allowed to ask once the dials have been set.

The maneuvers available to a ship is open information.

The "legal" way to convey it the easiest is to have the piece from the ship's pack. Looking at at unset dial should also work but is far less desirable. Although its legality could be questions as "an outside resource" some of the compiled ship maneuver summary pages would work the best.

The maneuvers available to a ship is open information.

The "legal" way to convey it the easiest is to have the piece from the ship's pack. Looking at at unset dial should also work but is far less desirable. Although its legality could be questions as "an outside resource" some of the compiled ship maneuver summary pages would work the best.

The only reference material you are allowed are rule documents or inserts from the X-wing page of the FFG website, or those found in an X-wing product. This effectively rules out compilation reference such as the BIG Reference Card.

The maneuvers available to a ship is open information.

The "legal" way to convey it the easiest is to have the piece from the ship's pack. Looking at at unset dial should also work but is far less desirable. Although its legality could be questions as "an outside resource" some of the compiled ship maneuver summary pages would work the best.

The only reference material you are allowed are rule documents or inserts from the X-wing page of the FFG website, or those found in an X-wing product. This effectively rules out compilation reference such as the BIG Reference Card.

Except FFG said those are okay, provided the information on them is solely the available maneuvers and nothing else. And if someone wants to throw me out of a tournament for having a compilation of maneuvers because I didn't have the foresight to save every ship insert for the last four years, well, that's a tournament I'm not going back to.