Hired Gun with Tusken Weaponry

By Eyfrosyne, in Imperial Assault Campaign

What do you think about? I didn't find any topic that was talking about this.

With 5 speed, it's easy to go melee, Green and Red + 1 is a great attack (even without surge), and if defeated, they will do another attack.

They will be very annoying to rebels. Am I wrong?

Yeah, Tusken Weaponry is great for making your cheap figures do more damage. But it's still pretty balanced - you have to get to melee range, and with Hired Guns it only goes on 2 figures (you could get it on 3 if you put it on Stormtroopers) and they can't use it during their Parting Shot.

Is it possibile to use Show of Force with Tusken Weaponry?

I don't know. I suspect yes - I think the "when an Imperial figure declares an attack" can happen before the attack, so not "during" the attack (when you can't use abilities). But I don't know for sure.

Show of Force is triggered at the declare target step of an attack.

I'm not sure if the intent of the wording of Tusken Weaponry is to disallow Show of Force, but literal interpretation would do exactly that (text on hero sheets and cards are abilities). So to be on the safe side, avoid using Show of Force.

(Declaring attack and declaring target and declaring an attack targeting xx are the same thing, because you can't declare an attack without a valid target, and by declaring an attack you are also declaring a target. A lot of abilities with the trigger "when declaring attack" do not work without the target of the attack being specified.)

Edited by a1bert

Show of Force is triggered at the declare target step of an attack.

I'm not sure if the intent of the wording of Tusken Weaponry is to disallow Show of Force, but literal interpretation would do exactly that (text on hero sheets and cards are abilities). So to be on the safe side, avoid using Show of Force.

(Declaring attack and declaring target and declaring an attack targeting xx are the same thing, because you can't declare an attack without a valid target, and by declaring an attack you are also declaring a target. A lot of abilities with the trigger "when declaring attack" do not work without the target of the attack being specified.)

So

- Abilities " during attack " (like adaptive weapons ) and Attachment (lie Pierce:1 of Savage weaponry) are not allowed

- Abilities " before declaring an attack " or " After an attack is resolved " are allowed like Surgical Strike

- Abilities " when you declares an attack " are doubt, like Show of Force, or Relentless , but it's safe to not use them

Am I correct in the examples?

Despite the name, after an attack resolves abilities are inside performing an attack . Thus I would say class and agenda cards with "after the attack resolves" are not possible either (Surgical Strike, the wording of Arc Blasters can be either, but I would put it here), but "after performing an attack" are possible (Sustained Fire). The wording of some is a little unclear, and the intent of some ( after X figure resolves an attack ) may be after performing an attack .

For the same reason when declaring an attack or when declaring a target are not available, but (just) before declaring a target would be ok, because the wording puts them outside of performing the attack, which starts with the declare target step.

Abilities that are triggered (from for example surges) during the attack but performed after the attack resolves are definitely off limits. (Like Punishment)

So, not 100% conclusive.

I would like to see an FFG ruling on this - whether Class/Agenda cards are affected by the restriction "Cannot use abilities", or whether its just meant to be abilities from the deployment card itself.

If it blocks ALL abilities, I feel it becomes a really useless attack - you're trading bonuses you might get from your class cards for a red/blue attack, etc... In some cases you'd actually be downgrading?

All text on cards and hero sheets are referred to as abilities.

If it says you can't use abilities, then I don't see it meaning other than you can't use abilities. Tusken Weaponry uses the same wording as the Tusken Raiders' deployment cards and there is no shortage of space to have "your" or "from this deployment card" if the intent would be just the surge abilities on the card. (This way Tusken Weaponry is also future-proof, i.e. you can't create some crazy combo that accidentally gets through testing.)

If Tusken Weaponry would be a downgrade for a group, attach it to some other group instead.

Edited by a1bert