Anakin and Luke

By JinFaram, in Star Wars: Force and Destiny RPG

Do you think the Racer Specialization would fit for them? I can't remember was Luke racing T-16's or just shooting womp rats with them?

For Anakin, yes, I think it's pretty fitting, as are Artisan and Shien Expert. I think he makes an iconic Sentinel, if only by FFG rules. At least as far as the prequels are concerned, with the podrace in Phantom Menace and the Coruscant chase scene in Attack of the Clones, I think Racer fits him very well.

Luke, however, does not feel much like a Racer to me, nor a Sentinel at all (why did he have to be on the cover?). He starts out as an Ace: Pilot, picks up Force Emergent, and then... that might actually be about it, for the original trilogy. I suppose he must pick up Hermit at some point ;-). I could actually see him grabbing the 2x Force Rating specs and turning into a potent Force Wizard, but I'll need to see more of him before I can really make a judgment call like that.

Your specs are what define you. Not every character who drives something has to have the Driver spec. Not everyone who flies a spacecraft has the Pilot spec. Sometimes a decent skill is all that's required.

as an efficiency thing, I'd start him as a warrior:starfighter ace, "knight level," with his starting xp plus morality bumping, brawn, dex, cunning (survival, perception), and willpower to 3. Knight level xp spent mostly on skills and the top part of starfighter ace. He'd have most (maybe 3/4) of the star fighter ace tree (but definitely not force rating +1) by the end of "a new hope" (e.g. full throttle, exhaust port, touch of fate, intuitive strike, probably tricky target, maybe intuitive evasion).

In Empire he picks up force rating +1 from star fighter ace pretty much as soon as he meets yoda, and "officially" would get started on shien expert. But most of the xp he'd been saving between A new hope and Empire would get spent on the force powers. Who knows maybe Luke, Han, and Leia had such huge bounty obligations on them from the empire and in Han's case also Jabba the Hutt, that they couldn't spend xp when they were together because their combined obligation was over 100 but when they split the party, with GM George running solo sessions for Mark Hamill on Dagobah, Luke's obligation by itself was low enough that he could spend all the xp he had been accumulating.

Both Luke and Vader supposedly used form 5, and that's probably the justification for putting Luke on the cover of the Sentinel book. A weak excuse I know. But really I kind of think sentry might be a better fit for his abilities than the "official" shien expert spec, and Sentry would get him to force rating 3 by the end of RotJ when he faces Vader the second time and has filled out most of the sentry tree.

I'd give him the two (force rating +1)x2 specs in between RotJ and the Force Awakens. which would put his force rating up to 7. not sure what he spent the 2 dedications on from star fighter ace and and sentry. maybe brawn and agility, there is an argument for and against willpower.

Strangely I dont see the original characters as having specs but just being NPCs with the required abilities they are shown as using.

He had little to no combat experience, for the Death Star battle IMO he was surrounded by better or equal pilots to himself, however it was a combination of a number of other things that caused him to save the day, his focus when firing, which had assistance from the force, the fact that Vader sensed how strong in the force he was, and Han Solo pulling a Corellian send off on Vaders wingman.

This does not make him an Ace or Pilot, because at his core he was a moisture farmer up till buying the droids, that puts him in fringer or colonist. He would still most likely be one of the better pilots in the area in much the same way boy racers were sometimes bettter drivers than their background would have you believe.

I really don't think Luke would have the Racer spec. I'd be more inclined to say he was Starfighter Ace from Warrior. I get the argument that he may have started out as a Colonist or Fringer but I don't think Luke would have gained enough xp over the course of the movie to have gone Force Emergent and then gotten Enhance to a level that would be useful for the Death Star run. Thus I think he starts out as a Force using school and builds upon that in the movie.

Edited by Kael

The section in the Age of Rebellion Core Rulebook on selecting careers and specializations specifically identifies Luke as having started as an Ace with the Pilot specialization, but Starfighter Ace seems to make about as much sense.

The section in the Age of Rebellion Core Rulebook on selecting careers and specializations specifically identifies Luke as having started as an Ace with the Pilot specialization, but Starfighter Ace seems to make about as much sense.

Edit for the record he was still using Ataru in AotC and used it to fool Dooku (in the novel) into thinking he was still using Ataru in RotS. Dooku didnt realise he was facing a Soresu and a Shien master at the time.

Edit not that any of this matters, as ultimately it works better if you build them like NPCs , the reason players dont get to cherry pick like the GM does is to provide a , kind of levelling platform, and also stops people from cherry picking the best abilitiesnand ignoring other "lesser" abilities.

Edited by syrath

The section in the Age of Rebellion Core Rulebook on selecting careers and specializations specifically identifies Luke as having started as an Ace with the Pilot specialization, but Starfighter Ace seems to make about as much sense.

Yes and that was written before Force careers were available. You can't expect them to state that Luke starts as a Starfighter Ace when rules for it don't yet exist.

The section in the Age of Rebellion Core Rulebook on selecting careers and specializations specifically identifies Luke as having started as an Ace with the Pilot specialization, but Starfighter Ace seems to make about as much sense.

Yes and that was written before Force careers were available. You can't expect them to state that Luke starts as a Starfighter Ace when rules for it don't yet exist.

....uh, yeah, that's why I said Starfighter Ace makes as much sense. It's the FaD equivalent.

Strangely I dont see the original characters as having specs but just being NPCs with the required abilities they are shown as using.

He had little to no combat experience, for the Death Star battle IMO he was surrounded by better or equal pilots to himself, however it was a combination of a number of other things that caused him to save the day, his focus when firing, which had assistance from the force, the fact that Vader sensed how strong in the force he was, and Han Solo pulling a Corellian send off on Vaders wingman.

This does not make him an Ace or Pilot, because at his core he was a moisture farmer up till buying the droids, that puts him in fringer or colonist. He would still most likely be one of the better pilots in the area in much the same way boy racers were sometimes bettter drivers than their background would have you believe.

"Best bush pilot in the outer territories."

T16-Skyhopper was looks ships which he used to fly true the canyons of tatooine. He was younger and better than Biggs as a pilot. There is little doubt imho that Luke started his career as Ace:Pilot, added force emergent, became squadron leader of rogue squadron (without acquiring the spec, though he might gain peacekeeper here) and THEN got his proper education from Yoda as a jed and basically abandoning his old ace career. What careers he picks up here is hard to say, but Niman and Shien seem both decent enough fits, together with a huge xp dump on force powers. Between ANH and ESB was a good deal of other adventures to get enough XP to progress to act 2 of the main campaign. Shien + Seer would be my personal guess for Yoda's training. Together with the basic on all forms to improve the lightsaber skill itself up to 5. But it really is imho hard to tell.

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I personally think the forms aren't hugely important. Obi-Wan is good with a lightsaber and he's an apprentice. He might have favoured that style but a form should merely be a frame of mind rather then a hard codified "OH NO BLASTERS I MUST ADOPT FORM 3 FOR MAXIMUN DEFLECTION" shenanigans. Most likely he simply said to the DM "ok, my master died now I want to do something different. DM, mind if I train in something else over the time jump to show how my master being killed changed me?" and just address it that way. Most of the time people pick up trees to actually gain parry and/or reflect so they don't die. How they fluff those mechanical bonuses is up to the player.

Aniakin is definitely most aspects of the sent tree. No questions asked.

Luke is probably a starfighter ace and he just picked a LS form and a few other bits and pieces. The lore have him as a guy with a high machine affinity but he doesn't do anything actually related to mechanics, so some ranks of astronavigation is probably good enough and leave his int at 2

Im not using the examples as an example of what specs they used but to back up my advice to build as an NPC and not worry about specs. Specs are for PCs.