Does Sqd. activate count as a move?

By Kiwi Rat, in Star Wars: Armada Rules Questions

Had a game the other day, my friend had a non rouge sqd placed on the edge of the space station.

It was engaged with one of my sqd's.

In the sqd phase when he activated his sqd, he said that he could attack my sqd, and despite that he couldn't move, he could still heal one health on his sqd.

But is this true?

Are you not supposed to be able to move and end your move on the space station to heal?

Or do activation itself count as a move, despite that you dont move???

My thoughts:

1. You can move and shoot or shoot and move, so had he blown up the squadron he was engaged with he could move freely.

2. If you are engaged, unless your opponents squadron is heavy or becomes heavy via intel you are engaged.

3. If you are obstructed then that squadron is not engaged.

Page 6, says "An engaged squadron cannot move."

I also understand that the stations special effect triggers "When you end a maneuver on the station." so, no, no healing for you little squadron.

Only if you are really able to move you can heal.

If the squadron is engaged, it cannot move. Not even if it was a rogue.

If it would count as a move, Mauler Mithel would deal his "move damage" as well each time he would activate.


• An engaged squadron cannot move.

My thoughts:

1. You can move and shoot or shoot and move, so had he blown up the squadron he was engaged with he could move freely.

2. If you are engaged, unless your opponents squadron is heavy or becomes heavy via intel you are engaged.

3. If you are obstructed then that squadron is not engaged.

Page 6, says "An engaged squadron cannot move."

I also understand that the stations special effect triggers "When you end a maneuver on the station." so, no, no healing for you little squadron.

The special effect from the station is (rules ref page 8):

When a ship or squadron overlaps an obstacle after executing a maneuver, it resolves an effect that depends on the type of obstacle it overlapped:

• Station: The ship can discard one of its faceup or facedown damage cards. The squadron can recover one hull point.

Executing a maneuver means (for squadrons) move. Even when it is nowhere writen in this way.

You must move .

Even if that move is so infinitesimally small as to be you didn't actually move... You still must expect your move to do it.

This could count in the situation, IF his Squadron bad been completely on the Station.

At that point, he wouldn't be engaged with you... Could still shoot you with the 1 reduced die due to obstruction (from the station), and then "move" nowhere to heal.

But if the closest part of his squadron to you, was not on the Station, then there is no ability to move, due to engagement.

Unless, of course, your Squadron is Heavy .

Besides ... If merely "Activating" counted as a Move....

... Then Yavaris would never work. Ever. Ever Ever Ever.

Edited by Drasnighta

Plus, even if he had destroyed th target he was shooting at, this was a non-rogue in the squad phase, you can either shoot OR move, not both. So no attacking, and then healing.

Lol just had this same situation in a game. I didn't question it and let my opponent regen, still won though.

You can move by remaining in place.

So it the squid was on the station and obstructed, it could shoot and heal as you describe.

Plus, even if he had destroyed th target he was shooting at, this was a non-rogue in the squad phase, you can either shoot OR move, not both. So no attacking, and then healing.

Every other response has missed the NON ROGUE part.

Cannot shoot AND move. So if it shoots, it cannot move. If it does not move, it does not heal.

Thanks for the answers guys :)

The confusion may come from how ships work... they count as moving even if they don't "move" because of a collision or such...

Squadrons are not the same.

Plus, even if he had destroyed th target he was shooting at, this was a non-rogue in the squad phase, you can either shoot OR move, not both. So no attacking, and then healing.

Every other response has missed the NON ROGUE part.

Cannot shoot AND move. So if it shoots, it cannot move. If it does not move, it does not heal.

Seriously thank you gink. As i was reqding through this I got more and more frustrated by this not having been addressed.

You can move by remaining in place.

So it the squid was on the station and obstructed, it could shoot and heal as you describe.

It's not rogue, so it cannot shoot then move.

Edited by TTC

You can move by remaining in place.

So it the squid was on the station and obstructed, it could shoot and heal as you describe.

It's not rogue, so it cannot shoot then move.

Squadron engagement requires unobstructed line of sight.