I would so love to see...... Starviper + Khirax Scum Aces!

By tsuruki, in X-Wing

So a few months ago I came here to this forum to beg FFG to officially release my favorite Star wars ship, the Arc, and they did! THE ABSOLUTE MADMEN!

On the off chance that there happens to be an FFG spy hiding under my bed granting my wishes (like that time they noticed how much I wanted Jetpack stormtroopers for Imperial assault even though I didn't say anything online) i'dd like to say that there´s at least one buyer out here waiting on the edge of his seat for an upgrade for Starvipers and Khiraxes!

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Seriously, I´dd buy that and I am probably not alone. Pretty much everyone who play´s competitive has a spare Starviper and then lots of the casuals should own the AWESOME looking starviper too. We all have these models just lying around! If we were to get an update pack (Scum Aces?) it would be torn off the shelves so fast!

Also since i'm at it, I'dd love to see the V - 19 introduced. It´s a distinctive ship that, although not strictly necessary for the rebels (they already have a bunch of heavy fighters) but would at least look cool on the table and provide a missile toting alternate to the X - Wing.

Perhaps it'd have a dial comparable to the B-wing with more white on its dial, agile but not particularly fast. 4 Hull? 2 Shields? Attack 2 or 3, Agi 2? Whatever it would be statted as, I'dd buy 2!

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Edited by tsuruki

Is it out of the realm of possibility that FFG releases something like a Nemesis expansion pack?

A great example of what I'm thinking would be if they released, during Wave II or shortly thereafter, a pack that came with a T-65 X-Wing (model with Luke's call-name/stripes and R2-D2 riding shotgun) and a Tie Advanced (the Raider Advanced model would have sufficed). This pack would've had the pilots/upgrades that we were conned into buying from the Epic exp-packs (i.e. Wes, Tie/x1 title, Advance Targeting Computer) and thematic AF.

Today, maybe they release Rogue One or Clone Wars.

I know Clone Wars has been disowned and this would never happen, but I'd love to see new life breathed into the Imperial OR Scum Firespray (with a sweet new paint-job) and a Jango pilot. Also included? The Delta-7B and the emergence of Obi-Wan pilot and Crew Upgrade. Keep dreaming.

FFG is fine the way they are doing it now, but this would be a cost-effective way to push out "fixes" that don't warrant giving one faction a whole "Aces" pack like people keep asking for.

Missing sku may equal scum aces

Fingers crossed

Gonna laugh so hard when it's a Rogue One mat. Or is that World's prize-support mat?

Isn't that so early for the 58? How much time is passed between Imperial Veterans and Hots?

Good point.

Also since i'm at it, I'dd love to see the V - 19 introduced. It´s a distinctive ship that, although not strictly necessary for the rebels (they already have a bunch of heavy fighters) but would at least look cool on the table and provide a missile toting alternate to the X - Wing.

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Are you reading my mind?! Are we the same person?!?!?

Missing sku may equal scum aces

Fingers crossed

Kind of unlikely with the new faq and m3a errate buff.

Missing sku may equal scum aces

Fingers crossed

Kind of unlikely with the new faq and m3a errate buff.

FFG might have decided that the M3-A could either be fixed by a second title that would invalidate the first, or they could do something small and make the Heavy Scyk title usable.

Far from meaning that we won't get a buff for one of the 2 most-broken Scum ships, I think we're much more likely to get at least one of those 2 ships buffed.

Would be interesting if they did a Scum aces with the K-fighter and the Viper, both with awesome new paint jobs and a title for the K-Fighter some along the lines of making it more like it was supposed to be in the EU a fast assault craft that was maneuverable.

Would be interesting if they did a Scum aces with the K-fighter and the Viper, both with awesome new paint jobs and a title for the K-Fighter some along the lines of making it more like it was supposed to be in the EU a fast assault craft that was maneuverable.

both are also apparently blacksun craft (blacksun ace and all)

could have a blacksun K-fighter and a Xizor colored Viper

Virago paint job and NEW SCULP for Khyraxz.

All the Scyk needed was what it got, a change in the title that is fluffy and crunchy at the same time.

Scum Huge is still MIA.

I know Clone Wars has been disowned and this would never happen...

Go watch the latest episode of Rebels and think about what you said.

Also since i'm at it, I'dd love to see the V - 19 introduced. It´s a distinctive ship that, although not strictly necessary for the rebels (they already have a bunch of heavy fighters) but would at least look cool on the table and provide a missile toting alternate to the X - Wing.

Are you reading my mind?! Are we the same person?!?!?

Twin brother? Is that you!?

Also, now that somebody mentioned "Nemesis packs" I totally need that too now. FFG, you have work to do.

Instead of calling it Scum aces they could call it "Bounties up", since the initial conversion was "Most Wanted"

A few new cards and pilots for all of the scum ships, even just 1 extra pilot since scum have either a "good Ace" or a "meh Ace" then some generics that fill out the rest.

The K-fighter could have a title that gives it a whole better dial, with a Talon roll and a boost action.

Another thing that I would like is to have the Pilots have their own abiliies, kinda like the YT-1300 since Han, Chewie give it 1 more Atk when they are the pilots.

Okay, so theoretically speaking we see a Scum Aces pack with the K Fighter and Viper.

The Scyk has seen some love in the FAQ - enough that it is "fine" but not "great".

With that in mind, I'd be hoping for the Star Jewel as our first Scum Epic, with a Star Jewel Guard Z-95 and matching title to go with it.

It's fine filler at the moment, but a bit more variety wouldn't go amiss at all (A couple more interesting Aces and a generic with an EPT maybe.)

Really don't want the Star Jewel. It doesn't really fit the feel of the Scum, and it's such a Unique ship.

My top choices would be the Action IV/V/VI (one of the versions) with options to upgrade it with cannons, and a Wilde Karrde title. You could run multiples, it could be run either as a gun ship or as a support transport.

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A variant Gozanti, like the Merchant One

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Or the Mandalmotors Corvette

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The advantage of all these is you could have multiples in an Epic game.

Edited by Rodent Mastermind

We also really need the Krayt or Kimogila (the later by preference),

Khiraxz Fighter Titles

Medium Fighter - Vaksai: Atk +1, Shield +1 (cost 4)

Light Fighter - Spice Jockey: SLAM drive, evade action (cost 2)

To give two different variations

Instead of calling it Scum aces they could call it "Bounties up", since the initial conversion was "Most Wanted"

A few new cards and pilots for all of the scum ships, even just 1 extra pilot since scum have either a "good Ace" or a "meh Ace" then some generics that fill out the rest.

The K-fighter could have a title that gives it a whole better dial, with a Talon roll and a boost action.

Another thing that I would like is to have the Pilots have their own abiliies, kinda like the YT-1300 since Han, Chewie give it 1 more Atk when they are the pilots.

Han and chewie dont have +1 attack. The ors was a bad design with 1 less attack. Note that its the only pilot in the game with a different statline than the rest of the pilots for a given ship, and they didnt repeat it for the new generic in heroes of the resistance

Instead of calling it Scum aces they could call it "Bounties up", since the initial conversion was "Most Wanted"

A few new cards and pilots for all of the scum ships, even just 1 extra pilot since scum have either a "good Ace" or a "meh Ace" then some generics that fill out the rest.

The K-fighter could have a title that gives it a whole better dial, with a Talon roll and a boost action.

Another thing that I would like is to have the Pilots have their own abiliies, kinda like the YT-1300 since Han, Chewie give it 1 more Atk when they are the pilots.

Han and chewie dont have +1 attack. The ors was a bad design with 1 less attack. Note that its the only pilot in the game with a different statline than the rest of the pilots for a given ship, and they didnt repeat it for the new generic in heroes of the resistance

Yeah as I said just a while back the +1 Attack should have been on the Falcon TItle, similar to the Punishing One. They have learnt from that mistake.

Khiraxz Fighter Titles

Medium Fighter - Vaksai: Atk +1, Shield +1 (cost 4)

I like the idea, but I don't think this will work:

· Talonbane Cobra (32 points)

4/2/4/2

When attacking or defending, double the effect of your range combat bonuses.

That means he's rolling 6 dice at R1. With 6 health. That's kind of monstrous.

Even the PS1 Cartel Marauder tossing 4 red dice behind 6 health is a whole lot of pain for 24 points. It can 1 shot a Z-95 with only a little bit of luck.

Maybe instead give it a kind of gunner effect. For 2 points it can have a second shot if it misses the first. It would still be tossing out 3 red dice, but now would be more likely to do damage with them. This is also a very slight defensive buff, as it makes offensive modification less absolutely necessary.

I've got this at 2 points because I think it's worth 4- and a 2 point discount seems about right for this ship.

Light Fighter - Spice Jockey: SLAM drive, evade action (cost 2)

:)

Khiraxz Fighter Titles

Medium Fighter - Vaksai: Atk +1, Shield +1 (cost 4)

I like the idea, but I don't think this will work:

· Talonbane Cobra (32 points)

4/2/4/2

When attacking or defending, double the effect of your range combat bonuses.

That means he's rolling 6 dice at R1. With 6 health. That's kind of monstrous.

Even the PS1 Cartel Marauder tossing 4 red dice behind 6 health is a whole lot of pain for 24 points. It can 1 shot a Z-95 with only a little bit of luck.

Maybe instead give it a kind of gunner effect. For 2 points it can have a second shot if it misses the first. It would still be tossing out 3 red dice, but now would be more likely to do damage with them. This is also a very slight defensive buff, as it makes offensive modification less absolutely necessary.

I've got this at 2 points because I think it's worth 4- and a 2 point discount seems about right for this ship.

Light Fighter - Spice Jockey: SLAM drive, evade action (cost 2)

I like this. Simple. Easy. I think only one or the other if those actions would actually be used, but I'm not sure which one. :)

Yes I can see for the light people going with the evade, but I mean the SLAM drive is cool for re positioning.

Yes the medium one is a bit monstrous, they kinda need it though and Scum has no 4 atk ship yet, so it being a cost for 1 more atk and shield at 4 seems low, maybe increase it to 6 since the shield upgrade is 4 points.

Also the medium one gives no other actions, they are still limited to TL and Focus, so people have to spend 4 points for EU or 2 for VT.

Edited by Raltus

Instead of calling it Scum aces they could call it "Bounties up", since the initial conversion was "Most Wanted"

A few new cards and pilots for all of the scum ships, even just 1 extra pilot since scum have either a "good Ace" or a "meh Ace" then some generics that fill out the rest.

The K-fighter could have a title that gives it a whole better dial, with a Talon roll and a boost action.

Another thing that I would like is to have the Pilots have their own abiliies, kinda like the YT-1300 since Han, Chewie give it 1 more Atk when they are the pilots.

Han and chewie dont have +1 attack. The ors was a bad design with 1 less attack. Note that its the only pilot in the game with a different statline than the rest of the pilots for a given ship, and they didnt repeat it for the new generic in heroes of the resistance

Yeah as I said just a while back the +1 Attack should have been on the Falcon TItle, similar to the Punishing One. They have learnt from that mistake.

I don't know if it was a mistake necessarily or not, since there is only 1 Millennium Falcon, like there is only 1 punishing one and it is either flown by Dengar or his Wife Manaroo. It should be tied to the pilots that it makes sense for. It would make picking a ship/pilot make more sense in the end if the ships were a bit better with certain pilots in them.

I know that the whole "ship is better with X pilot because, EPT, Mod, System etc" I just like that Han and Chewie and Lando get the extra Atk because they didn't fly a stock YT-1300

Plus according to Wookiepedie (credible or not?) The stock YT-1300 has no shield or weapons